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    Media copyright questions

    Welcome to the Media Copyright Questions page, a place for help with image copyrights, tagging, non-free content, and related questions. For all other questions please see Wikipedia:Questions.

    How to add a copyright tag to an existing image
    1. On the description page of the image (the one whose name starts File:), click Edit this page.
    2. From the page Wikipedia:File copyright tags, choose the appropriate tag:
      • For work you created yourself, use one of the ones listed under the heading "For image creators".
      • For a work downloaded from the internet, please understand that the vast majority of images from the internet are not appropriate for use on Wikipedia. Exceptions include images from flickr that have an acceptable license, images that are in the public domain because of their age or because they were created by the United States federal government, or images used under a claim of fair use. If you do not know what you are doing, please post a link to the image here and ask BEFORE uploading it.
      • For an image created by someone else who has licensed their image under an acceptable Creative Commons or other free license, or has released their image into the public domain, this permission must be documented. Please see Requesting copyright permission for more information.
    3. Type the name of the tag (e.g.; {{Cc-by-4.0}}), not forgetting {{ before and }} after, in the edit box on the image's description page.
    4. Remove any existing tag complaining that the image has no tag (for example, {{untagged}})
    5. Hit Publish changes.
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    Image probably should be speedy-deleted

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Stockcarcrash_32.jpg doesn't seem to have the right fair use, nor really contributes to either article it's linked to I don't think. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Guroadrunner (talkcontribs) 08:13, May 29, 2007 (UTC)

    This was a press release image by the company. What copyright tag should be used for this? --Gisuck 16:30, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    This image should not be used on Wikipedia since it is not free but could potentially be replaced by a free picture instead. nadav (talk) 00:15, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Even though the company released the photos for free use in media? --13:20, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
    please review and update just don't want this to be missed --01:07, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
    It's a very nice picture but we can't use it. The terms of use allow only non-commercial use without derivatives. And it's not usable under fair use either because somebody could take a picture of this train. We can't use copyrighted pictures that someone could take a free picture of. -N 01:33, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    How to finish the fair use rationele?

    What else do I have to fill in? Image:Eric_van_Lustbader_The_Testament.jpg --Wesley1305 19:14, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    license for altered existing wikipedia images

    I have altered the image shown at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Snakebite_morbidity_map.png because i could not distinguish the colors used. I would like to upload this image and replace the above image in the article on snakebite, because I believe it is more useful than the existing version.

    Since it is neither entirely my own work, nor entirely that of another person (though the version I started from does have the GFDL license) what category should I pick on the file upload wizard?

    --Aleister93 19:20, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    • Don't use the upload wizard. Instead click "Upload a new version of this file" towards the bottom of the image page and then in the summary box write a short summary of the change ("adjusted existing colors" or similar). GFDL images can be changed and then re-released under the GFDL. In the box that says "licensing" just leave it blank, since the image already has GFDL and you don't want to change it. -N 20:03, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm a member of IlliDell fraternity and am trying to add information about my fraternity to the IlliDell page and the Alpha Gamma Sigma page. I'm very new at this, and I want to make sure I'm doing all this stuff right. I'm not quite sure what I did wrong on my picture, if someone could please help me make sure I'm doing all of this kosher I'd appreciate it. Please let me know on my talk page. Like I said, I'm new, and I'm not trying to intentionally do anything incorrectly. I also need help tagging/citing/whatever I need to do, to all of my pictures. --Kirbach 04:31, 22 June 2007 (UTC) Kirbach[reply]

    I sent to wikipedia my image of Argaeus Mountain on the Moon. What can I do now? I do not understand what I have to do with the copyright taq. Can you help me? I would like my image to be placed in the article Argaeus Mons.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Vincentchin.jpg


    I found this picture on www.angryasianman.com. However, this picture can be found on many websites and is the most commonly used picture of this deceased individual. I would like to use this picture for the wiki article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Chin. I would like some help establishing the copyright so that we can use this picture of Vincent Chin for the article. Thanks. OneViewHere 19:35, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I believe it qualifies under fair use because Chin is deceased. I've updated the info on the photo you uploaded. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 20:49, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks Hong. Is that sufficient to keep the image from being automatically deleted after 7 days? OneViewHere 21:35, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I hope so. Though I am no expert in these things and I'm not an admin. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 21:36, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I added a sentence to the jpg discussion pointing out that Vincent Chin's mother is also dead and that there are no known living relatives. I think a Wiki admin needs to sign off on the image so that it doesn't get auto-deleted. OneViewHere 21:39, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm not an admin, but a valid fair-use photo of a deceased person is safe. Admins don't have any direct power to "sign off" on these things anyway.

    If you want to make doubly sure that a bot doesn't tag the image as having no fair-use rationale, use {{Non-free media rationale}} instead of plain text. It's sure to be correctly detected then, and it's a good way to ensure you've included all the necessary elements. TCC (talk) (contribs) 21:51, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    LolCat

    I have got the image from my main page from the internet using google search. Would this image be deleted unless I referenced where I got it from and what copyright tag should I put on it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wakimakirolls (talkcontribs) 21:24, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    It will be deleted regardless since it's a copyrighted image. The source appears to be Flickr, and that user has not indicated that he licenses his images in a way acceptable to Wikipedia. He uses a non-commercial Creative Commons license, and Wikipedia can't use images that are restricted from commercial use. Falsely tagging it GFDL won't help. The only way you can validly use this is if you contact the user and get him to change the license to Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike or GFDL. Fair use isn't an option, since fair use isn't applicable in user space. TCC (talk) (contribs) 22:16, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Battle of Red Cliffs

    I've been trying to get the article Battle of Red Cliffs to FA status, but the article is seriously lacking in images. It is one of the most famous battle in ancient Chinese history that happened in 208 AD, but for some reason, I cannot find any free use image that depicts the battle (ancient Chinese artists were more interested in drawing gay men and fauna instead, I guess?). I have, however, found a modern interpretation of the battle, [1] drawn by a Zheng Hongliu (郑洪流) on an unspecified year, but he's still alive and kicking. Here's my question: would this image (minus the watermark) qualify for fair use? Thanks. _dk 07:55, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Item 4 of WP:NONFREE#Examples of unacceptable use is: "A work of art, not sufficiently well known to be recognized by a large percentage of casual readers, whose theme happens to be the Spanish Civil War, to illustrate an article on the war. (However, because of its iconic status, it is presumably "fair use" where there is a small image of Picasso's Guernica in the article Bombing of Guernica.)" The only way I see to use the picture is if you devote a significant amount of text to analyzing the painting and/or style of the artist, or if the image itself is very well-known to laypeople. nadav (talk) 08:15, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I just got a notice about not having an image copyright on a song, (Rock and Roll Rowdies.ogg) that I wrote, uploaded. I had written that the song was copyright my music ompany. What else should I have done?

    --Crosstrax 15:56, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I see you now added a copyright tag, which is good. But I notice that you are claiming "all rights reserved" even though you released the song under the GFDL license. Are you familiar with the terms of the license? nadav (talk) 04:29, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Issue

    I am having trouble with Image:Erie bay.jpg. The uploader, who is absent, says he took the picture. Another user has tagged the image with GFDL presumed. At Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Erie, Pennsylvania image problems are the only thing holding it back. I dont know what tag to use on that photo. Thanks --trey 16:17, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    • The image is legacy. As far as I know, the policy on legacy images is we keep them as GFDL-presumed, they are exempt from speedy deletion, but they are deletable at any time (if nominated). I'm afraid the licensing issue can't be resolved unless the uploader re-appears or the image can be sourced. -N 16:27, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Does that mean it is fine to use in the article? --trey 16:32, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Well if we look at the wording of the upload page at that time we should be fairly safe.Geni 17:19, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm the one who raised the issue with the image. I wouldn't object to the use of the image in the article, but I won't support making an article featured if it uses a replaceable image with unclear copyright status. Pagrashtak 20:40, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Cover art?

    Can someone comment on the application of fair use cover art as it may be applied to the images that were removed in this edit? Some of those images are cover art. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 21:12, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    As the link states, cover art can be used "for identification only in the context of critical commentary of that item". A cover could, for example, be used in an article about the work. However, simply mentioning a name or work does not warrant a copyrighted image. ShadowHalo 21:42, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, but does "critical commentary" exclusively mean an article about the item in question? What if the "critical commentary" of the item is in a section of another article? For example, the article I mentioned - Cinema of Hong Kong - makes mention of certain influential figures in the industry and what impact they had. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 21:45, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    None of them have more than a passing mention in the article. ShadowHalo 00:48, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    So if the article can be expanded to make more mention of the items relating to the cover art, those images can stay? Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 01:58, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    if the picture is from a public website

    if it is a newspaper website, does it still fall under public use ? considering that the newspaper may or may not have published the picture in the printed hard copy of the newspaper. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pagliaccimontague (talkcontribs)

    • Please see Gratis versus Libre. Something may not cost you any money to get, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have any copyright. The owner has probably given you a scaled down version of the image in his newspaper for you to look at. He retains the rights to the high resolution version, he retains the rights to publish it again in another newspaper, he reserves the rights to sell the image, etc. "Public use" is most likely a "gratis" thing, where you can look at something but that's it. Wikipedia requires "libre" free content. -N 22:22, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Copright/Placement Question

    I originally uploaded the image Image:ZacEfron.jpg, to be put on Zac Efron's page, but I went to post it and it said i cant post a promo pic or anything of that sort. So what do I do?

    You can tag the image with {{db-author}} so that it can be speedy deleted, or you can wait a week for it to be deleted. ShadowHalo 03:11, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Image:Model.jpg

    This picture of Walter Model on the Commons has been marked for deletion, because it's a German photo used in a US Dept of Defense report (the publication is public domain, but the photo is not). The pic dates back to WW2, but is otherwise of unknown origin; the DoD report available online here indicates only that it's a captured German photo.

    I'm working on expanding the Walter Model article, and I need a picture of the man for it. There don't seem to be any free pics available. Can I upload it to the English wiki and claim fair use? If so, which license would I use? Any other tips would also be much appreciated; I haven't done any image stuff before this. Thanks! -- Hongooi 04:56, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    The best tag would probably be {{Non-free fair use in|Article}}. To use this tag, you'd first have to make a good effort to find a free alternative. If you can't find any free images, you'll have to write a fair use rationale explaining why it is necessary and justified to use these images in the article. One good reason is that he is dead, so no free images can be taken anymore.
    The copyright status of captured Nazi photos is complex. The US government claims that it seized the copyrights for certain images, including many Holocaust-related images, and released them into the public domain. I'm not sure if this is one of those images, or if the DoD report is a reliable source for determining that. Calliopejen1 12:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    License tagging for Image:Murray Van Wagoner.jpg

    Apparently I used the wrong tag for Image:Murray Van Wagoner.jpg and several other Michigan Governors. I would like to find our the correct license for these so they don't get deleted.

    Thanks, Jjmillerhistorian 13:05, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Since the source of these is unknown (findagrave wasn't the original photographer), unless the governors are so old that the photographer has certainly been dead for 100 years (doubtful), you'll need to use fair use tags instead of a free license. The best tag would probably be {{Non-free fair use in|Article}}. To use this tag, you'd first have to make a good effort to find a free alternative. Since these men were political figures, it's possible--for instance--that they were photographed by US Govt employees, which would produce free images. If you can't find any free images, you'll have to write a fair use rationale explaining why it is necessary and justified to use these images in the article. (One good reason is if they are dead there is no possibility of taking a new free image of them.) Calliopejen1 12:05, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    How to add a tag

    Can someone tell me how to add a tag?

    Look through the list at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags/All to pick the correct tag (if you need help, ask here). Then click the edit button at the top of an image page, paste the correct tag in, and press save. Calliopejen1 12:01, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    All images taken on U.S. military reservations are government property?

    I was looking at yesterday's featured article, and I saw Image:FairchildB52Crash.jpg. On its image description page, it says:

    This photo was taken on a U.S. military reservation which makes the photo property of the U.S. government and thereby public domain, even if the photo was taken by a private citizen.

    I've never heard that before. Is it true? Anyone have a reliable source that says that? TomTheHand 14:31, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    That one is unambiguously false. --BigDT 14:33, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    The imagined sequence of logic events cannot happen. Even if the government were to confiscate all rights to a photo taken illegally on military property (believable), a) they'd actually have to do that (and the fact this image is available publicly on the web shows they haven't) and b) 17 U.S.C. § 105 only makes original "work of the United States Government" ineligible for copyright. Copyright gained by assignment, such as forfeiture to the government, is still held. -N 20:46, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Choosing the correct image tag

    I am always baffled when it comes to choosing the correct image tag for copyright status. If I was to scan an image from a book depicting an old subject (for instance an image of an engraving, etching, artwork etc) could I use the {{PD-old}} / {{PD-art}} tags (needless to say, ensuring that the image scanned is over 100 years old)? If not, what do you suggest I use? Chris Buttigiegtalk 14:53, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I would prefer the {{PD-art}} tag because it is more specific, but I think either would work. Note that these two tags are for images whose author has died more than 100 years ago, not for images that are themselves more than 100 years old. A similar tag that deals with the age of the image is {{PD-US}} if the author did not die that long ago. Calliopejen1 03:11, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    what would you chose for a company's logo? is that in the public domain so no copyright is needed? Jaysun42 20:00, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    {{logo}} is the correct tag. A company's logo is normally both copyrighted and trademarked, so it is almost certainly NOT in the public domain. Calliopejen1 03:17, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Image:RealogyTree.jpg needs a fair use rationale, by the way. nadav (talk) 00:37, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Guji Lorenzana Image

    from User talk:Bluemask regarding Image:MG_9484web.JPG

    LMPhilippines is the company that manages the career of Guji Lorenzana. The photo is property of Lukas Music Philippines (LMP) and is used in all our promo packages. How do we copyright that photo as our own on our Wikipedia site? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.128.54.78 (talkcontribs) 2007-06-26T12:44:10 (UTC)

    I nominated the image for speedy deletion and requested that the company release the image under a free license on the IP's talk page. Calliopejen1 15:08, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Fair use just to illustrate living persons

    It seems most articles in Category:Japanese porn stars are using fair use images just to illustrate what living persons look like. Can anybody comment on this? Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 16:39, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Not much to say rely, tag them with {{subst:refu}} unless they have a fair use rationale that convincingly explain why no free licensed replacement can be created. --Sherool (talk) 17:23, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Public-domain picture?

    I noticed that there's no picture for Quentin N. Burdick, a former United States Senator from North Dakota. There's a picture of him at the Biographical Dictionary of the United States Congress, but there's no note on that page saying that it's an official US Government picture. Can this safely be uploaded as public domain because of being a US government work? Nyttend 22:04, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Why do you say the image is cited to it? To me it just looks like the government printing office entry is just one of the items on the bibliography. The copyright info page[2] says "Not all images are in the public domain...Do not duplicate without permission from copyright holder." nadav (talk) 23:29, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    For some reason I took that as a caption :p Nadav1 is right, the image source is unknown. Your best bet is to email and ask. If the answer is yes, have them email this to the address listed in Wikipedia:Permissions. -N 23:32, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    See {{PD-USGov-Congress-Bio}}. I believe that images from the guide are public domain unless otherwise noted. howcheng {chat} 23:07, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Image for Rod Stewart

    Hi, please could you check if http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexindigo/213186500/ is suitable for loading on wiki, I think it is because it doesn't say it can't be used for commercial use but it still says 2.0??? Would be much appreciated. Cheers. Sue Wallace 22:37, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    • The creative commons license on it is appropriate, but the person who took the picture did not get permission from the person who drew that mural to take the picture. There's nothing I can think of that would justify that image's inclusion in Wikipedia, not even fair use, since the image itself is not notable enough. -N 22:44, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]


    Replaceable fair use disputed

    What kind of explanation is desired for why a free version is not avaliable?--SefringleTalk 23:53, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Could you link to the relevant image? It depends. In some cases the image may depict a singular historic moment. In others, the subject is dead or unavailable. nadav (talk) 00:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    This image is linked on his talk page Image:Zakirbooks2.jpg. In which case the answer becomes another question. Why can't someone take a free picture of this individual? -N 00:10, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Adding image tags

    How do I add image tags to an already uploaded image? I've been to the page with a full sized picture, but I don't see where to add the tags?

    Tanks

    Zephyr99 03:43, 27 June 2007 (UTC) Zephyr[reply]

    You just click "edit this page" at the top of the image page and then paste it in next to the image description. I was looking at Image:May-umsketch.jpg though (if that's what you're referring to) and it is already has an appropriate tag. You do need to add a fair use rationale to the image description though, since it's copyrighted. Calliopejen1 06:54, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Use of a Signature

    Please, can I upload a signature of a person? I want to use the signature in this site http://www.jimnaugle.com/, and I am not sure if I can upload. Signature#Copyright Says I can, but I am not sure if it can be considered a work of art.--Legionarius 04:03, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes, you can upload the image. Be sure to include the source of the image and the {{PD-ineligible}} template. ShadowHalo 04:05, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks!--Legionarius 04:37, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    delete this page

    Hi, How can I delete all the 3 entries for Image:Spigitlogo.JPG

    Done. --Yamla 13:37, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Image tagging for Image:Ithappenedonenight.jpg

    It made a mistake as Wikimedia Commons. Please delete it - Image:Ithappenedonenight.jpg. Thirdship 16:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Done. howcheng {chat} 23:05, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    My Image

    I was told that there was something wrong with the image Image:HighlandMS.jpg. I know that I need a tag, but I don't know how. How? Libertyville 16:59, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    The image is copyrighted and is not acceptable for use on Wikipedia. ShadowHalo 05:23, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Is it okay now

    I got a message saying that I need to add a fair rationale for this image. I added one, so is it okay now? --Bentendo24 18:19, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, I have added an image to an article I added to Throstle Nest, however I am not sure on what the copyright is. I have read and re-read the copyright pages but I am still struggling.

    I found the picture from a Photobucket gallery found here.

    Also, I have a number of pictures (not yet uploaded) relating to articles which have been taken by myself and my friends, what will the copyright be on these?

    Thanks Jimbo online 20:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Copyright "livenowpaylater" not under a free license and thus cannot be used on wikipedia.Geni 21:24, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Image:Rvb_ep100_key.png

    Image:Rvb_ep100_key.png

    I am not sure whether this image is allowed. I made it by taking a screen-shot of the Rooster Teeth forum thread and then using an imaging program to add a key. Can someone advise me what copyright to list it as?

    I am not a lawyer, just a photographer my photograph of Megan Mason I shot should be shared

    http://www.maddogprod.com/MeganMason.png — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maddogzs (talkcontribs)

    • Please see Wikipedia:Image tags and put a free license on it. It would be preferable if you had a version that was not watermarked and cropped. {{GFDL-self-no-disclaimers}} is a good tag. Please note that a "free license" gives licensees the ability to resell the work and create derivative works. You would still retain right of authorship (attribution). In practice free licenses actually make commercial re-use difficult by requiring that the re-used portions retain the same free license. -N 19:17, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Interior panels of comic books in artist's article

    I've noticed that interior shots from comic books have a habit of working themselves into the articles of the artists. This seems to be a clear violation of the guidelines provided on the {{Non-free comic}} template. Has any conclusive judgment been made in this case? Typically, the panels are offered as an exemplar of the artist's work, not so much for critical analysis of the contents.Burzmali 23:21, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I thought I'd use John Byrne as an example. This article does contain an "art style" section, which might reasonably be thought of as critical analysis. Use of his work in the context of that section is justified under the normal fair use criteria, although not according to the text on {{Non-free comic}}. It might be worth adding {{Non-free fair use in}} to clarify that conditions other than those given at {{Non-free comic}} prevail. If his art style evolved over time, you could even justify multiple images to illustrate each period described.
    However, I agree that most images in that article, included simply to show the title the artist happened to have worked on, are not valid fair use and should be removed from it. TCC (talk) (contribs) 23:38, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    What Tag Do I Add To A Picture of An Action Figure?

    I took a picture of three action figures, and I would like to know what tags I need to add to the images. The images have been uploaded already, and I can redirect you to them if need be. :)

    Thanks!