Talk:Halo 3

Why isnt it for pcBold text —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.224.191.90 (talk) 21:17, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Forerunners?

has anyone noticed that in the game, the forerunners, thoguh not specifically described, seem to have been some type of human race?

got info from listening to the monitor in halo 1, and reading halo: the flood and halo:ghosts of onyx. tidbits of dialogue and documents seem to imply tht the forrunners may have been human Darthblaze99 14:07, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

The discussion page is only for topics pertaining to the article itself, not the game. If you want to speculate, go find a relevant message board. Amalga —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 01:35, August 27, 2007 (UTC).

i was hoping sm1 would know if they have released any info on if the forerunners will make an appearence in halo 3. didnt make that clear. sry. Darthblaze99 14:00, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

In regards to information about the storyline, Bungie's been pretty mum about the in-depth details. Whether or not the Forerunners will appear in Halo 3 is not a storyline detail they'd want to reveal before the game comes out, so no. No information has been released. Amalga 04:48, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

According to the Halo ARG "Iris", the Forerunners were not human. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.2.89 (talk) 02:54, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

and where did u get that information? a link would be nice. cuz i played the iris game and it said nothing about being or not being human Darthblaze99 14:15, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Gameplay revisions

Consider revisign the Gameplay section, most of it seems extremely useless to the article, much of the information if very obvious and present in almost any game.

I Agree, the grammar and puncuation is poor. There are uneccessary commas all over the place.

It also it states that the game follows The Master Chief, with no mention of the Arbiter.

It also contains opinion - when mentioning the Multiplayer element of the game "... and is the primary reason for the series' enormous success." The games Halo:CE and Halo 2 were hugely successful despite the multiplayer element.

English is also poor eg when describing it as a first person shooter it states that the game "Largely builds off of previous renditions of the franchise..." Surely this should read "Largely builds on.." or "Largely builds upon..."

That is just a few examples.

63.174.7.252 11:28, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

these have been fixed, courtesy of yours trulyDarthblaze99 14:43, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Just Wondering

You do realize that Truth isn't the last Prophet, right?

yeah but hes the one in power right now, so we don't really care about the rest of his race.157.174.221.167 20:18, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

True, but it matters on what you define as 'the prophets'. yes, theres more prophets or people that look like him. But the proftet of truth's kind may not be called prophets, and might be called somethiung different.--leemyster 13:29, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Campain Choice

There is a rumor going around Halo 3 forums that you can choose who you can play as, Meaning you either play as the Arbiter or the Master Chief, your choice. Link to rumor

At this stage there is no confirmation. When Bungie says whether the Arbiter is playable or not we can add it, until then there's no need to mention it. I personally think he will be available as a coop character, but that's just my opinion and it shouldn't be added to the article (my opinion that is). James086^{Talk | Email} 09:11, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Huh. Looks like the latest issue of EGM says that the Arbiter is playable in Halo 3's campaign. Whaddya know. Peptuck 16:59, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Since I am at work and cant get onto the EGM page can you tell me what date they are putting it on the shelves?Xenocide321 19:14, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't think its for sure but since the arbiter is playing along side the Master Cheif vertially the entire game there would be no purpose in having 2 different campain's and the fact that the arbiter is a co-op player might enhance this thought. Im not posative just a guess.

Campain Choice has been confirmed Bungie news

No it hasn't. However, the Arbiter is available in co-op. Also, your link is broken.--TyGuy92 02:50, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Extra grenade?

In the E3 2007 trailer; at 0:50 (50 seconds) there is a 1st person view of MC killing a brute with a battle rifle and if you look at his grenades he has 4 types. It's not equipment (like a shield drainer or bubble shield) because that is displayed under the grenades. Is it known what it is or hasn't Bungie said anything? James086^{Talk | Email} 04:11, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Screenshoth3e307.png

Currenty it's unknown... Hackers found an Agility powerup or piece of equipment, in the beta code, and its speculated that this is it. The Walkin Dude 15:05, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok thanks, and at the moment that screenshot needs to be put in an article or it will be deleted (see WP:FU), sorry to be such a copyright-nut. ^{Talk | Email} 01:58, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

In the next months EGM mag there is a ton of new tHalo 3 info,the 4th grenade is the Flare, a smoke grenade of sorts. There are more new weapons shown too! Gravity Hammer - a shockwave-generating device that's used for close-range attacks and vehicle disruptions. The Mauler - a dual-wield shotgun.valo_sweet_666

The Flare is a new piece of equipment, similar to the Portable Grav Lift, Power Drainer, and Bubble Shield available in the multiplayer beta. Even in EGM, the fourth grenade remains more of a rumor than anything. "We saw hints of a fourth grenade type, though it never actually appeared in action. Bungie won't give any details on this possible addition--or whether it will even be included in the final game." Brent Butler _contribs^talk 16:52, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

it has been confirmed 2 days ago by bungie that the 4th grenade is the fire grenade. heres link http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12699

EGM Leak

Should that be included? It was leaked on the GameFAQS board and there were quite a few pictures...Argias 01:29, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Where is this leak? The Walkin Dude 01:33, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

On the Halo 3 board on GameFAQS. Just ask them for the stuff and they'll post it. I can't, as I was recently banned.

Link: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=926632&topic=36863163 No pics though... Argias 04:30, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oeaFIrBz2vA http://youtube.com/watch?v=9XHxwI_dqEU http://youtube.com/watch?v=MrG93-6AbtI

ONLINE CO-OP

Following reports earlier in the month that online co-operative gameplay was on the verge of not making it in Halo 3, Bungie has today confirmed that the four player Online Co-Op is now confirmed! Valo sweet 666 04:46, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

They've announced that Player One will play as Master Chief. Player Two will be the Arbiter. Players Three and Four will be elite soldiers. All three will have identical abilities, aside from the starting weapon which will be carbines for the elites instead of the battle rifle which Master Chief will use. Here are some details about those characters directly from Bungie.net:

PLAYER 3 (Sangheili)

Name: N’tho ‘Sraom Affiliation: Fleet of Retribution/Special Warfare Group/Special Operations History: N’tho ‘Sraom is the youngest member of his Special Operations unit and is one of a growing number of human sympathizers amongst the Sangheili youth. He is a fairly typical young male adult Sangheili—he began compulsory military service at the end of adolescence, and remains unmarried with no close, non-familial relationships outside of his martial order. N’tho Sraom refused to stand idly by while the Prophets replaced Sangheili units with Jiralhanae packs, and now bears deep resentment toward those Sangheili politicians who landed his kind in their current predicament.

Although N’tho ‘Sraom’s romanticized nationalism is emblematic of all Sangheili, he has developed a healthy respect for humanity—not for their physical abilities or martial prowess, but for their audacity and resolve.

PLAYER 4 (Sangheili)

Name: Usze ‘Taham Affiliation: Fleet of Retribution/Special Warfare Group/Fleet Security History: Although Usze ‘Taham was born into a respected merchant family he was fathered by Toha ‘Sumai—one of the preeminent swordfighters of this age. Usze graduated with honors from the top War College in the Iruiru region of Yermo, Sanghelios (a distinction he shares with Rtas 'Vadum). Shortly after receiving his first post within the Covenant Navy he was offered a place on the Prophets’ Honor Guard but he declined citing “lack of practical experience”. In truth, he had no desire to be part of a largely ceremonial unit, and at the end of his third combat tour, Usze ‘Taham again refused the post—even though his superiors warned him such behavior could be misinterpreted as apostasy.

Since that time Usze has evaded countless punitive actions, at least two assassination attempts, and served with distinction for two additional tours before the Schism. Following the dissolution of the Covenant, he was approached by the Ascetics to become one of their liaisons within the Navy. Hammet1982 21:21, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

If a source is needed, this was stated in the August 1st Bungie podcast. 64.230.63.54 07:11, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Done, added to the article with a citation to the announcement about it on b.net RC Master 13:36, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

typo fix

{{editprotected}} Gameplay section, third paragraph, first sentence, "were it is most useful" should read "where it is most useful"

done. Od Mishehu 07:36, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

New Information Via EGM Magazine (08/07)

New Weapons

• Mauler- Brute shotgun. Dual-wield.

New Equipment

• Regenerator- Regenerates shields.
• Flare- Blinds all that view the flash.
• Radar Jammer- Creates fake blips on enemy motion detectors.

is the equipment like bubble-sheild and trip mine available in camapign?Darthblaze99 13:54, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

New Vehicles

• Hornet- Human aerial vehicle. Appears to have vertical takeoff and landing.
• Prowler- Brute vehicle like the Elite Specter.
• Warthog Personel Carrier- Human Warthog with room for soldiers in the back "cab".
• Elephant- Large vehicle that looks like a Sandcrawler. Moves very slow and is protected by mounted turrets. Houses a spawn point, flag spawn, and flag return.

Thats great anonymous user. But unless you fix us up a nice citation using Template:Cite_journal or Template:Citation, we can't use the info. RC Master 13:21, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I dont have the link from the article because i cant get it at work, but I too have seen this information on the egm.1up.com site. Xenocide321 18:30, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

More magazine tidbits (Edge 179)

Over today, I'll be adding a few new tidbits about Halo 3 to the article from the latest Edge magazine in the UK. I'll also be adding full cites to bits I add as well, just to make it proper. Please don't worry about this being a leak, or false information. I have the magazine right in front of me, and assuming EDGE themselves didn't get it wrong, it is all correct.

One tidbit that i've just added; there are 53,595 pieces of audio in Halo 3, of which 39,368 are of NPC dialogue. RC Master 14:16, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Million Preorders

the news hitting the intertubes today is that there have already been one million copies sold, over a month before release. is this notable enough to put in the article? is it a record of any kind? -anon

I think so, a mention in the lead section should do saying it's one of the most anticipated games with more than 1 million copies pre-ordered, with a source of course. Speaking of which, I had to go searching to pre-order my legendary edition, they're sold out at so many places now. I had to drive ~30km to find a store that wasn't sold out! (it's a long way considering how many stores there are near me). James086^{Talk | Email} 23:36, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I only preordered the cheapest version of the game... saving the bigs bucks for the GTA4 special edition... Anyway, According to the article now this is or is not a new record for preorders. Someone added a new source showing higher preorders for halo 2. I think it has something to do with how quickly they got to 1 million preorders... I'll be looking for a source, and I'm betting I'll be able to find a source that states 2 Million or more pre-orders for this game by the time the launch finally hits. -anon

HALO 3 PROMOTION!!!

Jesus Christ, scroll down to the bottom. lots of new info regardign the promotion for the game. Brownstone999 18:19, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

FLAMETHROWER!!!!

[1] You have to put this in its so sweet!!

Can you find another source to confirm this information by? 74.245.38.202 16:40, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

has been confirmed by bungie Darthblaze99 03:14, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Legendary Edition image

I found a free image of the legendary edition (Image:Halo Legendary Helmet.jpg) though I'm not sure where to add it to the article, I think that the "Different versions" section would have too much white space if I were to add it there. Any suggestions, or just go ahead if you have a good idea. James086^{Talk | Email} 03:48, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Note

It states in weapons that you cannot hide a seconday weapon, however the energy sword in the beta would deactivate after being switched, allowing you to hide it. 74.245.38.202 16:42, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

However, it still visibly appeared on the players leg. So its not invisible when you switch like it was in previous games. Thats the point of the sentence in the article. RC Master 09:54, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Halo 3 Epsilon and new flame weapons

I recommend you mention the halo 3 epsilon that is currently active. Bungie has yet to confirm this epsilon but many trustworthy websites have written about it and I have personally seen someone playing the halo 3 epsilon. Links to some websites: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/812/812230p1.html http://kotaku.com/gaming/soon/so-whats-halo-3-epsilon-288442.php http://kotaku.com/gaming/and-nothing-but-the-truth/the-truth-behind-halo-3-epsilon-288565.php http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EElyluyuuASXUMvxWV.php

Regarding the flamethrower and firebomb, these were confirmed by IGN and included an interview with a Bungie employee. "O'Connor confirmed that the gadget (bubble shield) will provide safe haven from fire."It will wash over the shield. It will actually burn on the surface of the shield."

The Epsilon is just another stage of internal testing. As the article stands theres no real place for it. However, if there was a "development" section, it could be mentioned there. Oh, and firebomb and flamethrower have been added now. RC Master 09:56, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

More info on Meta-Game scoring

I don't remember where I read it (new EGM I think, but I don't have a copy) but they have released how the meta-game scoring will go. It will be based on things like head-shots, using skulls (which have negative effects), killing mutliple enemies at once, etc. It will essentially work like the stat baords in multiplayer games, but with a point value associated with the different stats and medals as well as some Single-Player only things like using skulls. If anyone has the data on this, I think it would be nice to add to the info for the meta-game since the wording right now is a little weak.157.174.221.168 15:21, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes. This is one of the things mentioned in Edge 179 that I meant to update the article with. I don't know about the "killing multiple enemies at once" one, but there are still things that could be added. I'll have a look... RC Master 14:24, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Done: Well mostly. I reworded most of it, and added info about headshots and speed of progression. Also noting the competitive aspect it introduces to co-op. Oh, plus a quote! RC Master 15:54, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Post-release cleanup and organization

(Just want to get this out of the way) Halo: Combat Evolved and Halo 2 are both featured articles, so ideally I would like this to be as well. Obviously immediately after it's released there won't be enough critical reception (and face it, we'll all be too busy playing the damn game), however I would like to suggest that shortly before the release we shunt a copy of this page to a subpage, perhaps /prerelease or whatever; that way, we can trash the main page and reorganize it, while still having a copy in the back (to grab details about development, rumors and prerelease info that will be extremely helpful upon release.) Anyone have any objections to this/improvements? David Fuchs ^(talk) 22:58, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

I think that would be an excellent way to help develop and refine the article. And I completely agree with you on getting this to FA since CE and 2 are FAs. It'll take time, but all good things do. Cliff smith 23:23, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

I also agree, I was wondering myself what we should do with the current article but that sounds like an excellent idea. James086^{Talk | Email} 23:49, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah. Upon release, it will need a significant rewrite. Because a lot of the stuff is listed chronologically and with lots of "will introduce" "was revealed on" etc. Putting a copy of the article on a subpage does seem like a good reference point for developing an FA worthy article. We'll have to decide exactly what needs to be said in regards to things that are covered in the article now, but aren't covered in counter-part on Halo and Halo 2 pages. Because thinks like the current "technology" or "features" (saved films) section, aren't covered at all in many other game articles. But, perhaps they should be?

The article as it stands, is still pretty good I would say. RC Master 14:11, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, there is nothing about the technology behind the games in the other articles, but also in terms of release marketing and reception- that killed me when I had to go digging for it at FAC. David Fuchs ^(talk) 15:01, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Um, whats FAC? RC Master 15:11, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

WP:FAC = Featured article candidates, but it's often referred to as the process of "putting an article through FAC" as in nominating and responding to the discussion. James086^{Talk | Email} 23:46, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Ah, thought it might be. Just had to check. Thanks RC Master 12:48, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Vague, POV wording here

I don't like how the following passage was worded. No citation is given and we are not even told which 2 weapons the author found to be the only useful ones in the original Halo. For one, I used every weapon in Halo, and in multi-player I used the Sniper-Rifle, Pistol, and Shotgun frequently like many players. Since this ungrounded bias reads like a POV sales pitch for the new game, I'd like to have this sentence rewritten please:

The idea of "balance" (at least in multiplayer) is that each specific weapon or piece of equipment has specific areas where it is most useful, and others where it falls far short. No matter what combination of weapons a player chooses (players are 'famously limited only two choices of weapons in Halo), there will be situations in which they have an advantage, and others in which they have a disadvantage. The result is that there is no one weapon/vehicle that is overwhelmingly the best overall choice for whatever type of situation they may encounter. --Charizardpal 20:43, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I wrote that. I was trying to explain the bit about "the balance of weapons..has been altered." Perhaps it seems a little out of context now. It orgininally did say at the end "(such as the M6D in the first Halo)" however someonce decided that wasn't needed and removed it. It still holds true, I feel. If you didn't know what was coming. You'd choose an M6D and the most powerful weapon you could find.

Now, probably, it does need a rewrite. Though I don't know what could be said. RC Master 13:13, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

"Only two weapons at any one time" might fit better? James086^{Talk | Email} 23:40, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

New Toy

Speaking of new toys, apparantly Wired magazine confirms a new weapon. Wasn't sure where to post this, but the URL is here...

http://www.wired.com/gaming/virtualworlds/magazine/15-09/ff_halo?currentPage=4

And apparantly describes another turret-type weapon that's covenant based called the Plasma Turret. Does someone want to put this where it needs to go?

-Uwasa

This is simply a redesign of the existing portable plasma turret. i.e. the one without the shield on the front. Whats new is that it is detachable like the human turret, and the weapon looks more impressive to reflect its powerful nature. 157.174.221.167 19:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Just wanted to add that this turret can be seen in action in the HALO 3 videos form this years PAX. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.174.221.168 (talk) 20:47, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I was surfing the GameStop website, when I came accross a few more limited editions of another very cool, but some-what pointless Halo 3 extras. Im sure you all know about the SPARTAN and Elite controlers, and the Halo 3 wireless head-set. The 2 new items are the MadCatz Xbox 360 Halo 3 Faceplate/Skin Pack, and the SPNKr Missle cass. Yea that's right, a SPNKr missle cass (the missle ammo pick-ups from the games). From the picture, it looks like it can hold one controller and a wired-headset (or, maybe 2 controllers) and it looks like it has room for 5 CDs. The missle cass is only available online, so dont go to the store looking for one.

The links for the 2 new extras, respectively

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=802715

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=802720

- that missle case thingy is pretty cool, very original halo memorabeila —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.188.113.218 (talk) 22:51:47, August 19, 2007 (UTC)

Gundam94 17:11, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Female Voice

I know this feature has been confirmed by Bungie, but has anyone seen anything about when you ever hear it? Those that are familiar with Halo know that the characters voice is never really used in multi. Its just not very clear in the article why having a female voice option matters. The way its written sounds like you speak through character voices instead of just using the xbox live headset and may be misleading to those unfamiliar with the game.157.174.221.169 18:19, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Its there for when the player dies, you will hear a female scream istead of male. .Valo sweet 666 17 August 2007 (UTC)

I would have thought it would be the voice that says "double kill" or "flag taken" etc. That would make a more noticable difference that would probably be worth mentioning in a weekly update but then again I'm just speculating. James086^{Talk | Email} 03:30, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

It is when you hear the player die in MultiPlayer. You will never hear it during the campaign, and it does not change the voice of the announcer.--Tyguy92 17:48, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I think its the 'voice mask' that is going to be female or male. they did this because of the increasing amount of female gamers, so it wouldnt be sexist that the only voice mask you could get would be one of a male voice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leemyster (talk • contribs) 13:39, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

The female voice that bungie has added will be used when your character is meleed, in halo 2 your character would "grunt" so to speak. now, you can change that grunt to a shriek, it does not change your voice masking, the voice of the announcer, or any other game unrelated aspects, its simply an aesthetic change. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.126.243.32 (talk) 02:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

IGN Q&A with Bungie

I recently added a quote from Tyson Green of Bungie Studios from a Q/A session at IGN.com. The rest of the interview may have some info that could verify and/or supplement what's already here. Cliff smith 18:40, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Bubble Shield Issue

Correct me if I'm worng but as I remember from the Beta, from within the bubble shield you can still fire outwards. If I'm completely wrong, just disregard this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.164.202.130 (talk) 13:08, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

No, you can't, it prevents fire both ways. When the beta was available I would approach a bubble and throw a grenade inside. It contains the explosion and pretty much guarantees a kill if there's anyone inside it. James086^{Talk | Email} 13:36, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

The new stationary shield has a slit you can fire through though. I believe it was confirmed in the EGM issue, but I could be wrong.157.174.221.169 19:30, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

NEW HALO 3 BLOW OUT ON IGN.COM!!!

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/815/815041p1.html

wow, there is so much info we can add on this article. Duff man2007 21:12, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Quite, I read all the way through it, but not as much as one would think. A case of it says alot without telling us much. There is some useful info there, just alotta waffle around it.The Walkin Dude 20:03, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

you phail, there is plenty of info to add due to that link Duff man2007 04:43, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Not that I see. Peptuck 05:00, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Looks like mostly the same stuff to me 74.245.38.202 02:37, 1 September 2007 (UTC) User:The Shroud

Listing

For the weapons, maps, equipment, etc., you guys should start listing the confirmed ones and put them in a list instead of the little article that only summerizes a couple of tidbits of information. It's only a month away from Sept. 25 and Bungie and alot of other websites (IGN, 1up, etc.) have confirmed a bunch of other stuff. We should start a list soon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.188.113.218 (talk) 22:07, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a list. We already had that, but it was eliminated because it was unencyclopedic. Peptuck 05:01, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

And it was huge. the olde "confirmed elements" section practically took over the whole article. And there are plenty of other sites that will list every weapon and vehicle and map etc. Wikipedia doesn't need to RC Master 13:08, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

PC Version

Please don't attack me for asking this (as I'm afraid Xbox fans will do) but what is the current possibility of a PC version being released or done? They have released a PC version for both the original and Halo 2, are they planning to do the same with Halo 3? Just wondering if anyone knew anything about it and therefore it could be added to the article. 72.49.194.69 07:52, 29 August 2007 (UTC) Joshua

There hasn't been any word of a Halo 3 PC as far as I know, but as you said, the previous 2 had PC versions released later so it's likely there will be some day. There is no confirmation by Bungie or Microsoft though so it can't be added to the article. James086^{Talk | Email} 08:51, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Again if the last 2 were released you can expect the same of this one. BUT, the first one wasn't released until just prior to xbox Halo 2 coming out, and Halo2 PC is just now coming out. I wouldn't just hold out for the PC version if I were you because it will be a while, and it'll be pretty outdated by then for PC standards.157.174.221.169 19:27, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Seems I'll have to wait for it on the PC, though. 72.49.194.69 20:23, 29 August 2007 (UTC) Joshua

Yes, but likely not to long, from what i hear. Deal with it and find a friend with a 360 until it comes out... I want it for PC too The Walkin Dude 00:35, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

See this article http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=170224&skip=yes 72.49.194.69 00:02, 30 August 2007 (UTC) Joshua

It will be a few years before the PC version comes out. MS isn't that dumb since this is one of their biggest system sellers.157.174.221.169 19:28, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Just to clarify, a PC version is not being made as of yet. Bungie have already said they want to get the 360 version out before even considering it. But, since the other two were, you can be fairly certain it will eventually come to PC (ahem, Vista). RC Master 13:11, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

in EGM's latest issue, they gave Halo's AI the "best AI" on the showroom floor

This should be included when talking about the AI in the game. Keep in mind that EGM only does console stuff though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.117.224.11 (talk) 01:49, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Burning wood?

I saw a vid where the wooden pallets burned, but it cut off early so i don't know User:The Shroud —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.245.38.202 (talk) 02:40, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

What vid? do you have a link? The Walkin Dude 17:21, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Gold

What does 'gone gold' actually mean in terms of video games? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.188.113.218 (talk) 16:05, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Gone gold generally means that it it is certidied Golden master, e.g. it's ready for production then shipment. Gold is he last thing a game is certified before it is released to the people that make all those DVDs, who then pass it on to the store lines and such. The Walkin Dude 17:21, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Just a note to clarify, "gone gold" has nothing to do with sales numbers like it does in the music industry. The master copies of optical discs were traditionally (and sometimes still are) gold colored due to the material they were made from and with no real marketing purpose.157.174.221.168 20:43, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

1up's daily coverage

Today there is supposed to be an update but when i went to the website, it was still locked and the date said 9/03/07. Anyone know what time they unlock those? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.188.113.218 (talk) 14:02, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Check again. It's there now.--Roeas 00:35, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Canadian Money

hey can you guys put the prices of the halo 3 game version in Canadian too. If you do thanks. :)68.145.77.173 23:14, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Legendary only available in ...

I removed the text "The legendary edition is currently only available in North America and Brazil." because it's unsourced and not true. Why Brazil & not UK? Besides, I live in Australia and have pre-ordered the Legendary without any problems. If there's a source listing the places that the Legendary Edition is available, by all means add the info, but make sure it's reliable. James086^{Talk | Email} 23:33, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Havok Engine

In the box in the top right corner of the page, where it says which Game Engine is used, shouldn't the Havok Engine be listed as well as the Halo Engine, since Havok is used for physics calculation?--Roeas 00:36, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure, on some articles it states the game engine they use, including all the various physics engines, on others it doesn't. I don't see why you can't put it there.The Lord Of The Crayons 00:57, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Sony, Stay Off Wikipedia

Honestly, doesn’t Sony have anything better to do? Trying to edit the Halo 3 Wikipedia page? Didn’t they even know their ISP would be caught? Even if they attempted this from a home ISP, the rules in Wikipedia are fairly clear on speculative, source-less entries, much less weasel-worded opinions. Plus, Sony apparently hasn’t learned good grammar, since they capitalized after a comma.

Maybe Sony should be concentrating on its own software than trying to clumsily sling mud anonymously. JAF1970 18:02, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Sony must have gone crazy. Caught vandalizing rival product article. What an insult for themselves. Its already a hot news out there.--R.iqbal 18:57, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I love Halo, but you you guys sound like idiots when you say "sony did this, sony did that." Did you ever stop to consider maybe it was just an employee there. Whether you'd like to beleive it or not, Sony is not stupid, and they did not get to the top of consumer electronics by making dumb marketing moves. If Sony wanted to discredit Halo, I'm sorry, but they would not change the wikipedia entry on it. What would that accomplish. Stop acting like victims, grow up, and think the situation through.--TyGuy92 02:10, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

...Are you serious? If they didn't want to be held accountable they should have done it from a different computer. It doesn't matter whether it was an employee or not, they still are held accountable due to it being done from their IP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.90.68.64 (talk) 02:49, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

my dad works at bungie (his name is frank o'connor) and he gave me halo 3 for my birthday last year and Sony is wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goatsmoke (talk • contribs) 07:35, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

It is obviously done by some sony employee. But who cares, it's from sony so its done by sony. The mud have been spilled and its sony sony who is disgraced in the end. People are making fun of sony everywhere from game forums to news articles. I assume MS is loughing like hell seeing this news all over the place.--R.iqbal 07:53, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to request that this discussion ends. Unless it is being discussed as to enter this information in the article or not, this talk page is not a forum for discussion about the article's topic. SpigotMap 08:04, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Heh. How is this unrelated to editing the Halo 3 article? (wink) JAF1970 17:48, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Heck, this is one of the few points on the talk page directly relating to the editing of the article! Peptuck 22:28, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Saying that "Sony is embarrassed seeing this news all over the place" is a complete exaggeration. Sure, a few people who read news on gaming sites may be laughing, but most regular gamers never heard of the story. I didn't hear about it until this discussion. It's not real news unless the AP or Reuters picks it up, otherwise, it's just a confirmed internet rumor that will be chuckled at by the few who read gaming news sites.(Excluding game reviews, these are more widely read.)--TyGuy92 22:51, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Actually, it is all over the place. This is the internet after all and news like this travels like wildfire. The article from Vnunet has been linked on several forums I visit.Yasgur 03:04, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I also want to request that this discussion end. This page is not a forum to discuss why someone from a Sony-related IP edited Halo 3. This page is for discussing how to improve the article. Useight 04:02, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Bearing that thought in mind. I find that the little section concerning Sony 'vandalizing Wikipedia's article to not show neutrality in the subject in mind.

For As of September 04, 2007 an internet technology and news site reported that a wikipedia user posted under the graphics section that Halo 3 would have graphics only marginally better than Halo 2. This news site determined that the user had posted from the Liverpool office of Sony Computer Entertainment Europe (SCEE).[46] Undoubtedly, this was an attempt to downplay the upcoming release of the hotly anticipated title.

I feel that last sentence or perhaps the whole article should be re-evaluated to seem more neutral then a POV of some halo fan's. Don't get me wrong I am a great fan of Halo but I don't think it seems proper to bash sony on Wikipedia and claim at the end Halo is Awesome. This is what I am getting when I read this article. 24.226.195.58 13:38, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

A little off-topic but saying its a "hotly anticipated title" and stating that its rightfully hotly aniticipated are two different things. I don't think anyone would argue that it is very highly anticipated.157.174.221.168 20:40, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

The preorder numbers (projected minimum $172M on first day), the Madame Tussounds wax figure, the hype, the commercials, etc - it's hotly anticipated. JAF1970 04:22, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Considering that the PS3 is a failure, Sony seems to be getting increasingly desperate. What a shame. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.110.26.86 (talk) 03:02, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

yes, i agree. sony is scared witless of halo 3, b/c they know that it will knock them out when it comes outDarthblaze99 11:44, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Different Editions Omission

There missing a difference between the editions. Both the Limited and the Legendary editions come with an "HD Calibration Disk". This was briefly noted on the bungie website. This is a Halo 3 themed disk that will help to Calibrate your HDTV to get the best picture. 69.158.17.235 01:52, 5 September 2007 (UTC)Jason M - TO

I could be wrong, but I beleive it is available to everyone with an Xbox Live Silver or Gold membership now. Do some research into it if you want, I'm sure the Bungie forum will be glad to help once they stop posting "phail". Sorry for the rant, but that forum is one of the most immature I've ever been in.--TyGuy92 02:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

As far as I know, that tool is on the "Interactive Xbox 360 Disc." So is with the limited and legendary versions. RC Master 12:49, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Well regardless as to whether its on xbox live, it should be mentioned if it also comes on the disc. Since only like 50% (i think it was) of xbox owners are on live, it would be good info for them. Also, 4chans boards are by far and away more immature than Bungies.157.174.221.168 20:36, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

addition to weapons section

it should be noted under the weapons section that the covenant needler can no longer be dual wielded due to a significant power increase.

Okay, go ahead and make the change. You don't need permission to add info to the entry, that's your right. If formatting of grammar is not right, someone will make the change for you until you learn.--TyGuy92 02:30, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, by all means make the edit. But, we don't want to be "game guidey" describing all the changes to every single weapon in the game. The overall statement "with minor power and cosmetic changes" is fine I believe. The needler is still the needler and just has different power. RC Master 12:53, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Why are the graphics not much better?

The graphics in this game are disappointing. They have a good replay/cutscene engine but the real gameplay engine looks only slightly better than Halo2.

Halo3 http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/734/734817/img_4818511.html

Halo2 http://media.pc.ign.com/media/804/804393/img_4486727.html

Yes it is a fair comparison even if its the PC version of Halo2 because both are running in high resolution. Seems bungie went lazy on this one and didn't bother to spend the development time to improve the engine to the best of the systems abilities. Like Halo and Halo2, Halo3 is sure to have frame rate issues and even worse when in split screen. Vietone 13:26, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

have either of u guys seen the halo 3 single player thing? i mean, the graphics blew me away. if u say its not better than halo 2, i dont thuink u payed attantion. the betes werent that great, but there u go: BETA Darthblaze99 14:12, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

(facepalm) Haven't you noticed by now that the graphics in multiplayer are not going to be as good as the ones in singleplayer? That's because they matter less in multiplayer than they do in singleplayer, which is where the real shininess is going to go. This: [2] is a far better example of Halo 3's graphics, and that itself may or may not be the final build. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peptuck (talk • contribs) 15:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

If you look carefully, there are vast improvements. Halo 2 had visible polygons, whereas Halo 3's polygons are tiny. There weren't really framerate issues in Halo 1 or 2 unless you made a lot of blood on the ground. Though NTSC may differ from PAL-60 in this case. Still, I don't think there's anything bad about the graphics, sure Halo was never a game with amazing graphics but they aren't bad. James086^{Talk | Email} 08:07, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, the action does (supposedly) take place in much larger areas. And there is more going on and more enemies on screen at once. So theres two reasons. Plus, i believe, a lot of the beauty of the game is in its subtlety. the bloom isn't overdone, the lighting it soft were it needs to be, things that are supposed to be natural look natural. textures convery the surface of an object without getting in your face. Oh, and PCs have FAR more RAM than the 360. So even in H2V, they can have higher res textures in some cases. :Plus, who said there would be framerate issues? All accounts so far point to a very stable framerate in Halo 3. While H1 and H2 had some framerate issues, i've seen games with far worse issues in that regard. Oh, and Halo 3 had a much longer "polish" period at the end of development than halo 2, and certainly longer than H1. All signs seem good.

Besides, the talk page is for the article, until we have some proper commentary (ie reviews) about how much the graphics suck or not, theres no reason to talk about it. RC Master 13:02, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree, this is an article talk page and we should be discussing the article, not the game. I got a bit sidetracked. Please let's keep it on-topic from now. James086^{Talk | Email} 23:52, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

To keep on topic about the article, we should really remove that pic of High Ground or at least mention that the screenshot is from the Beta and NOT the final build and thus not representative of the actual in-game graphics. Bungie has said many times that many graphical settings were turned down or off for the beta. For instance, if someone wishes to dig through their site, they said that there was absolutely not Anti-aliasing in the Beta, and turning that on will help greatly. The purpose of the Beta was to test the gameplay and the online functions, not the graphics engine.157.174.221.168 20:34, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Xbox 360 Achievements

Hi, I wanted to add a link to a list of the Xbox 360 Achievements for Halo 3 in the External Links section on the Halo 3 page, but the page is protected. I was going to add this link: *A list of Xbox 360 Achievements for Halo 3. Can someone help me with this? --UaneReade 14:06, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia generally frowns on Lists and info that is considered fancruft or game-guide like material instead of the type of stuff you'd find in an encyclopedia.(I always forget to sign)157.174.221.168 14:43, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Picture

For the 2 beta pictures, can you at least mention it's from the beta, you did good on the other picture mentiong it's a work in progress, you might as well mention that the beta pics are from the beta, now seeing that was like 6 months ago. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.38.203.115 (talk) 02:29, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't really matter, does it?--$UIT 02:33, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

yes, it does. since it is a beta or work-in-progress still, it needs to ber known that it is not the final productDarthblaze99 11:47, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

If you feel so strongly about it, you can add it in yourself--$UIT 19:00, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Old Maps

Will their be any multiplayer maps from Halo 1 or Halo 2 that will be in Halo 3 other than Last Resort (Zanzibar)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.188.113.218 (talk) 23:35, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

The game isn't out yet, so who knows. Also, the talk page is to discuss the article, not the game itself--$UIT 01:50, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Agreed with above. If you can phrase it in a way that is more encyclopedic and not so game-forum-esque, it could be added. Oh and to answer your question, Lockout has also been remade with a jungle theme and can be seen in the videos from PAX.157.174.221.168 14:40, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

RV please

I would rv the current verison myself but I'm an IP. I can't belvie no one noticed this.--71.170.106.104 02:41, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

in EGM's latest issue, they gave Halo's AI the "best AI" on the showroom floor

Duff man2007 02:43, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

this topic was already hereDarthblaze99 14:23, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Auctions

idk if anyone noticed this, but there's a lot of confusion abt these 2 ebay auctions, u can check the halo.bungie.org site to find out the details, but i'm surprisd no1 posted about it yet.after checking it out, wat do u ppl think, real or not?[[3]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Discopete117 (talk • contribs) 21:29, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Halo 3 is selling on Ebay, add this in

Halo 3 is selling on Ebay, add this in Duff man2007 23:35, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

i already did, look at auctions, i'v also got a link where people discuss it so just delete itDiscopete117 00:54, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

No you didin't. THe word "ebay" or "auction" is not mentioned once. Duff man2007 02:29, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

The part about this eBay auction is poorly formatted and place haphazardly in the middle of the article, if it is to stay, it needs to be fixed. Useight 03:15, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

This is the exact text that was in the article. I am removing the text from the article temporarily until it can be cleaned up and a better location found for it within the text of the article:

"- ===Ebay Leek and kids getting banned for life=== - - - - - - THe game is selling on Ebay right now, and kids are also getting banned for life by playin halo 3 right now - - - - - - - - - - Source: http://news.filefront.com/halo-3-available-on-ebay/ - - - - - - - - - - source: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=halo+3+ban"

Useight 03:22, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Look if you guys don't like it, then fix it yourself. But you can't remove it yourself and not fix it. So either fix it yourself, or don't mess with it Duff man2007 03:33, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

3RR

Refering to the three revert rule, please use this discussion to determine the fate of the eBay leak portion of the article, rather than remove and re-add the content repeatedly. Useight 03:26, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, it can be reworded, as you said above--$UIT 03:42, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

So? If you don't like it, then fix it. Don't remove it. Duff man2007 04:02, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

So... I removed it, per WP:NOT#NEWS. And it will continue to be removed, this is not a news service nor is a forum to announce cruft like this. SpigotMap 04:07, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Spigot your logic is flawed, if something is leeked onto the internet it does go on wikipedia. Try again Duff man2007 04:09, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Only if said leak can be classified as a reliable source.--Yeti Hunter 04:14, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I did provide a source. Hell, just go to google news and type "halo 3 ebay" and you'll get results. Like I said, don't even attempt to think to remove this from the page, if you have trouble with the spelling and what not then fix it, don't just blatantly remove it though. Duff man2007 04:15, 12 September 2007 (UTC)