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Bayesianism

Dear Ed

I added a reference to Howson & Urbach such as you requested on 11 August to demonstrate my point is not Wiki original research as you suggest. Hope that satisfies you pro tem. I shall add more references to this end asap. --Logicus 14:45, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Worldwide Church of God

I'd like your advice, if you don't mind, so that I can't be accused of pushing an agenda. I want to get rid of the overview section in this article because it essentially duplicates the purpose of the lead section and just feels awkward. It can't all be integrated up because that would overbalance the lead into criticism. I'm thinking of dropping the first sentence, moving the second sentence up to the lead ("For its first 50+ years..."), drop the third, move the 4th up ("However, within a few years..."), and drop the fifth. Thoughts? 24.6.65.83 02:59, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Why not offer a draft of the new overview section at Talk:Worldwide Church of God? Then ask for feedback on the Talk page. EdJohnston 15:25, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, my proposal actually eliminates the Overview section, moving some info up to the lead (where it belongs) and deleting what I think are the redundant bits, but I suppose I could put it on the talk page. 24.6.65.83 17:10, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

RFC

Well, I didn't acually change the process, I merely cleaned up the instructions. A continual problem on Wikipedia is that instruction pages tend to accumulate needless exceptions and redundant warnings; these need occasionally be pruned to prevent the page from becoming illegible. A good example is WP:CSD - people keep adding things like "be careful when doing this" or "don't do this without thinking twice" everywhere, which if you think about it really doesn't help, especially as it's already noted at the top of the page. >Radiant< 08:52, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

immediately restore Time postings

Ed, You practically called for a vote, and you said so yourself said on this page that I'm all alone. At the same time, you didn't address the substance of what I posted, or my request for a grace period to provide counter balancing material. Also, can you explain what the rush is? Jebbrady 03:02, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Please see my response at Talk:Herbert W. Armstrong. EdJohnston 04:21, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Knock knock

Sideshow 1

I don't know how bored you are these days, Ed, but there's a little problem over at Tassajara Zen Mountain Center (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) with some COI SPAs. — Athaenara ✉ 01:45, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I left a {{uw-delete1}} message for User talk:64.252.4.220. You've been doing a nice job on improving that article, and making the title sensible. (I've actually heard of that place, and have some old books by Alan Watts lying around somewhere). Lately I've noticed that SPAs don't have a lot of patience, and as time goes by the original POV impulses may give way to inaction. There are some decent Buddhism-related articles in WP, and there is a portal, though I didn't find a WikiProject we could appeal to for common sense. EdJohnston 03:32, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Your support of my "tedious insistance" [sic] much appreciated. — Athaenara ✉ 06:48, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Sideshow 2

See Mark Dice (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) for a small COI SPA sideshow. I'm appalled sometimes at the lengths to which I've gone to meet such users halfway. If you've a bit of time and interest for it, I expect you'll have something unique to contribute. Feel free to reply on my own talk page if you prefer. — Athaenara ✉ 20:12, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Ath. I added Mark Dice to my watch list. Looked at the WP:COIN posting, but it wasn't clear what action was being sought there, except to 'keep an eye.' In case you might have noticed Archimedes Plutonium some time back, a character who was also considered a wacky self-promoter, that one was elegantly resolved as a protected redirect to Notable Usenet personalities, a semi-protected article that lists a number of people with just a sentence or two for each. If you believe the Mark Dice article is more than is required for his current notability, something like the Archimedes Plutonium solution might be considered, though a different target article would be needed. Some of the previous versions of Mark Dice that you cleaned up are actually more entertaining than the current one. If improper edits continue, semi-protection might be considered. EdJohnston 20:52, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. How's it going with the COI/N archiving-by-bot proposal you mentioned last week? A few minutes ago it was over 230,000 bytes. — Athaenara ✉ 21:20, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Postscript. By entertaining, did you mean like this version? — Athaenara ✉ 21:24, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Hm, I took another look, and I think your new version is the best. Re archiving, I proposed at WT:BLPN that they should use a bot, but didn't get any response. Do you think silence gives consent? :-) EdJohnston 22:27, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

I tempted to say yes, Ed, it does. COI/N near 240kb and BLP/N near 290kb are choking on their own mass. — Athaenara ✉ 10:35, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Sideshow 3

I can assume no clue with the best, Ed, but I have very little patience lately for users like 189.169.24.93 (e.g. Talk:Trans-Mediterranean Renewable Energy Cooperation‎#Policies, guidelines and tags. The clever lad changed his mind about posting this version though.) — Athaenara ✉ 00:31, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

It's not that I want to bite newbies, I just wish I could bite them back. — Athaenara ✉ 00:56, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Just like spam-fighting tends to make a person snappish and trigger-happy, it sounds like the work you do on WP can cause the blood to boil. As for myself, I never lose my temper.. (/plays Twilight-Zone music..) EdJohnston 03:36, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Between the TREC webmaster/marketing advisor and assorted other users who think anyone who tries to make the TREC article encyclopedic must be in favour of global warming and/or totally ignorant of solar and wind technologies, and all their incivilities, I'm crying for some support from the sidelines. Help? — Athaenara ✉ 05:28, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

→ (In re: Talk:Trans-Mediterranean Renewable Energy Cooperation (edit | article | history | links | watch | logs). —A.)

On the TREC issue, it's starting to look that you might need some admin help on the article Talk page. It's unfortunate that COIN has not had many patrollers lately. Maybe it's something about the vacation. Usually you get a few good blasts of indignation about the more inexcusable stuff, but it's been very quiet. (Except in some cases where people come to the noticeboard along with the issue). I've seen Jehochman around, but not too many other people. Even WP:RSN is rather dull these days. Maybe the TREC stuff will escalate up to a real noticeboard, and something will happen! Also the TREC issues seem to require very careful study of the references, which may discourage newcomers. The most blatant stuff is the behavior of the webmaster. EdJohnston 05:52, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Sideshow 4

Talk:Jim Bob Duggar‎#Duggar family 2006 image may be getting extreme enough to end up on my comedy page. (Please feel free to delete this post if it annoys.) — Athaenara ✉ 23:03, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

You were helpful over there, thank you. I'm wondering now if Lucid's "that I am actually drawn back… to try to drill this through your lead skull… should concern you" edit summary a threat or a garden variety incivil personal attack? — Athaenara ✉ 06:31, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Arbitration case involving Jebbrady

For your information, I have filed an arbitration case regarding Jebbrady's editing of the Armstrong-related articles.--SarekOfVulcan 16:43, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

FYI, though the arb remains open with three votes recorded, this RFC/U has been filed and certified by two users other than the initiator. Both the ARB and the RFC remain open for comment (if I understand the arb process correctly). -- LisaSmall ^T/C 08:46, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Isen

I added reasoning on the talk page. To answer your question I feel that a geographical feature of middle earth warrents an article when it meets the criteria set out in WP:NN and WP:FICT - having been the subject of several independant secondary sources and ideally having significant real world content. I don't know if Isen or any other articles meet this criteria - I am not a Tolkein expert but could see no evidence in the article - hence the tag. [[Guest9999 22:29, 18 August 2007 (UTC)]]

ISBN Tool

Hello,

Just responding to your request to discuss the recently proposed link to the ISBN validation tool on the wiki/ISBN page. I think it's a useful tool, not least because it converts both ways. It will also validate any reference provided; however, please let me know how best to proceed. Thanks. 74.9.45.67 18:15, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

A Google search for 'ISBN conversion' gets 2.18 million hits, which is a huge number. An ISBN conversion tool does not provide a rare or hard-to-find service, and in any case Wikipedia is not a business directory. See WP:NOT and WP:EL. For my own use, I prefer http://www.isbn.org/converterpub.asp, because it will do the conversion and also hyphenate properly. EdJohnston 21:09, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, I think it's fair to say that 2.18 million hits does not equate to 2.18 million conversion tools, and though your preference may be for another tool, it may not be so for everyone. Having a choice, albeit in this case a limited one, I think is a good thing, but I appreciate your comments. 74.9.45.67 22:10, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Re:Sinebot

Thanks for that, Ed. Problem is, of course, that I'm happy with alomst all that Sinebot does, just not with my comments on my own talk page. I'll definitely consider opting out, though. Grutness...wha? 00:01, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Re:

Hi, actually Danzig/Gdansk is not that case. Brno was and is the name of the city all the time. It was not "Brünn and not Brno" it's name was Brno and for german speaking population it was Brünn. Official name was always Brno and during the the period of Austria after the battle on White Mountain it was also (not only) Brünn and during the WW2 it was Brünn. ≈Tulkolahten≈^≈talk≈ 09:00, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

UPC Patent

I just found your question about my patent. I answered it on my talk.UPCMaker 01:10, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Academic Journals project

Hi Ed, a project for journals has been started; here is the talk page in case you want to get involved. John Vandenberg 06:23, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

RSS History section

It just seems sprawling, includes events that may have little to no long-term historical significance (WP:NOT), has completely unnecessary external links within the text (WP:LINKS), etc. That's why I just put a general cleanup tag. I don't know how many times I have added cleanup tags or simply removed history sections (those with actually no historical content to speak of) of internet technology articles (especially articles about recent companies in the business with such sections).--Boffob 22:03, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

re:Wikification template shouldn't appear in the articles themselves?

Hello Thadman! Just now I moved a {{wikification}} template from The Monster Study to its Talk page. (Someone complained about The Monster Study at WP:VPA). Do you agree that the template doesn't belong in the articles themselves? Also, shouldn't this template be moved into the main template space? Having a redirect across spaces is sometimes frowned upon. EdJohnston 16:49, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

When I used the template I generally put it in the talk page to act as a record of its wikification. Also when I first put it together it was an experiment of sorts which is why I did it in my namespace. Later on there was a request to put it in template namespace, so I instead simply patched through a redirect. It might be about time to make the move permanent as so many people seem to use it now. אמר Steve Caruso 20:16, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I suggest you can be bold and move the template. If anyone doesn't like it there are many deletion procedures they could follow. EdJohnston 21:02, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I've copied it to template name space. Rich Farmbrough, 14:18 21 September 2007 (GMT).

Thanks! I don't know yet if it's a template I'd use myself, but it seemed curious that it was being brought in from User space. It looks better now. I may need to fix up some help links. EdJohnston 15:32, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

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Request for Mediation

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Re:Powerset

I agree with you completely about the potential for a good article about the Powerset search engine. The article we had was pretty lousy, but if you're interested, I can restore it in you user namespace. I wasn't the one who speedied the article, but my messing about made things rather confusing. When I first saw the article, I hoped it would be improved, and I slapped a {{notability}} template on it with that in mind. However, it was speedied shortly thereafter. It wasn't recreated, but I partially restored the article and merged it with powerset because I thought a couple of the old edits (one of which dated back to 2001) were worth preserving. I apologize for making a mess. - EurekaLott 02:29, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

SPAM drivin me nuts!!!

Hi. I just saw your edit over at Web operating system. I'm wondering how you feel about the table at Web desktop. I have been going round-and-round with a bunch of spa's over the inclusion of a couple of non-notable entries. Any thoughts? I'm feeling lonely and wondering if I'm doing the right thing. Thanks in advance. -- Ben 16:55, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I've been through some related debates. I went and looked at the table you mention in Web desktop, which includes some red links. Since the table doesn't provide direct external links to these systems that don't yet have articles, it annoys me less than it might otherwise. I would still argue that any entries that don't have references should be removed. So if some magazine article refers to one of these, I'd be OK with including it, even if it's not notable enough to have its own WP article. Otherwise, they should go. (It's unreferenced information). EdJohnston 17:05, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the look-see and the thoughts. I think I just need to keep taking my blood pressure meds. -- Ben 17:25, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Years

Hi Ed, this has been a bugbear for a long time. There is one user, who is highly placed in the community who has fought against de-linking years, blocking and using admin functions to revert, and stopping consensus at MOSNUM. We have lost good editors over this, which is why I am reluctant to press the point. Nonetheless I have de-linked many thousands of bare years, with maybe a couple of queries. The MoS has actually come on now saying

• Wikipedia has articles on days of the year, years, decades, centuries and millennia. Link to one of these pages only if it is likely to deepen readers' understanding of a topic. Piped links to pages that are more focused on a topic are possible ([[1997 in South African sport|1997]]), but cannot be used in full dates, where they break the date-linking function.
  

I would prefer it not to provide any support of Easter egg links (WikiPRoject albums deprecates these preferring the style "1999 (see 1999 in music). The discussions run to many pages. If you wish to de-link more efficiently, there is some good monobook code around, mine is passable, but not to good with links adjoining other links. Rich Farmbrough, 11:40 21 September 2007 (GMT).

Linking isolated years in Judith Jarvis Thomson

Hi, thanks for your remark. I'm not sure that we should only make links when they are relevant for the article in question. For instance, most articles on people have links for the country of their nationality, although most users wouldn't click on those links to U.S. or China if they wouldn't have a special reason for it. There are also aesthetical, readability and sheer conventional aspects to be taken into account when you decide to link or not to link. But please revert that part of my edit if you think it is for the best! Velho 16:38, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply! I don't actually know how to proceed, but I am influenced by Rich Farmbrough (the operator of SmackBot) who, since he uses automated tools to fix page formatting problems, has had to give some thought to how isolated years should be treated. There is not currently a firm consensus about isolated years. EdJohnston 12:55, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Making sense

My apoligies:

I have a freind who happens to know my username and password. I didn't think he'd act in such a malevolent manner, I was only trying to introduce him to wikipedia. I'll make sure I change my password. He has admitted to me that he was in this matter. Please take this as the truth, for that is not the kind of person I am. Thank you for the vandalism revert, I promise never to let anyone, including myself, respond in kind. Thanks again. BurnMuffin ^{Word, bro.} 00:01, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Edokter RfA

Dear EdJohnston, Thank you for your participation in my Request for Adminship, which ended succesfully with 26 supports, 3 opposes and 1 neutral. A special thanks goes to Rlevse for nominating me. I appreciate all the support and constructive criticism offered in my RfA. Please do not hesitate to point out any errors I will make (unintentionally of course), so I won't make them again. Please contact me if you need anything done, that's what I'm here for! — Edokter • Talk • 12:58, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

WWB re-request for assistance with proposed entry

Hello, here's hoping you recall my request from August for assistance with my proposal of a page for my employer, User:WWB/New_Media_Strategies. It's substantially longer now, with more information about the company, its acquisition, ethics statement and current activities. This is definitely well beyond a stub now, although I haven't included the company infobox, I can add that shortly. I'm also going to post another request at the Village Pump, in case you're too busy. Thanks again. --WWB 17:53, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

		My RFA
		Thanks for your support in my request for adminship, which ended with 58 supports, 1 opposes, and 1 neutral. I hope your confidence in me proves to be justified. Addhoc 19:24, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

EB online

Sure, just do it. If someone objects I'm sure they'll raise the point. Richard001 23:24, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Trans-Mediterranean Renewable Energy Cooperation

Thank you for leaving a message on my German discussion page. I left some sort of short reply over there for you. My major point was and still is that in my opinion the article has lost "too much" right now - this article as it is now is just not bringing home what it should bring home from my understanding of the German article. Again, the point is not that I basically do not accept the changes that have been made to the article, but I think that some of the edits that were meant to be improvements simply were not. Furthermore, you might just cross-check your "citation needed"-notices with other articles that already exist in WP (and that have not been written by Benderson). For example (this was the most obvious one that I noticed when I went through the text for the first time, so please apologize) take the notice before the very last one (about California) - you even have an article not only about the technology used there (Parabolic trough), but also about exactly this power plant (Solar Energy Generating Systems).

Imagine an uninformed reader (I would say I'm a bit above that level now, but that's what we are working for in here, aren't we?) - all facts that this person can get about the plan/project/... is located in the second paragraph, in one single sentence (actually the interesting part starts even later, at "by campaining"). And then, there's a lot of technical jargon - and we directly jump into this 2004/2005 conference issues. So this person reads on and on ... "what the heck is this project all about" etc. - but nothing but confusion because the basic idea is gone.

I had in mind that analysis when I contacted Athaenara and suggested some co-work _including_ (yes! I have had some good experience with that kind of co-work in de:) Benderson (because he undoubtedly is the expert on the topic). Of course, he is not working from a neutral perspective, but he will surely be more than cooperative if he sees a chance to come back into the editing process instead of being beaten away literally like it had happened recently (please keep in mind that he never made a secret of his work for the initiative). Of course, others would have to take care (f.ex. including a lengthy improvement process on the discussion page), but still, there should be some progress.

As I wrote on my German page, my timeframe is some kind of limited currently, but I will keep an eye on the article and the ongoing discussions in en:. Nevertheless, if you want me to react quickly, please do not hesitate to leave a short "ping" on my page in de:. --Nis Randers 21:02, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Misbehavior by User:Benderson2, the COI-affected editor, and his lecturing of those trying to enforce normal Wikipedia policies, led to the lengthy COI investigation. When this article first appeared it looked like advertising or promotion. I understand that the article may have been reduced as the result of the subsequent edits. The lingering concern is that this is a research project that seems to have no notable results, yet wants everyone in the world to know of its existence. We are of course receptive to the addition of solid, well-substantiated information to the article that is independent of the project itself. EdJohnston 22:10, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Social Parking

I have made changes to Social Parking. Please check it out. Perhaps you might change your mind about it. -IDNexpert —Preceding unsigned comment added by IDNexpert (talk • contribs) 00:22, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

books-by-isbn.com

FYI, see [1] and [2]. --A. B. ^(talk) 15:36, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Excellent! Thanks for the update. EdJohnston 15:49, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

signature

Sorry, my mom had an emergency and this is the first time I've been by. I see you managed to do the archive without my signature. Apologies for forgetting to sign. I was dashing by yesterday, so I just saw the rest of your note today. No, no videos.  :) -Jmh123 02:57, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Raëlian history and beliefs

Hi, thanks for bringing this to attention. Sorry for the mistake, so I removed the COI2 tag. (I'm User:Bearian at a non-secure internet cafe.) Bearian'sBooties 16:29, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

FreeSWITCH

Ed, hello there. I can't post to the FreeSWITCH page because of the current lock (and my current issues with my vile account, different thread).. I have a COI - but is globeandmail.com from over a year ago worthy of note, considering age as another factor as well? Could you post this to the Talk page for me for other editors to discuss? http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20061016.gtfrontlines16/BNStory/ another cite that popped up was: http://www.informationweek.com/software/opensource/190500835 Thanks, matt vile 216.228.182.112 19:49, 8 October 2007 (UTC) ping 216.228.182.112 23:59, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks (a bit late) for helping out my RfA. Bearian 13:22, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the support.

Hello EdJohnston,

Thank you very much for coming out in support of my RfA. In particular, I wanted to express my appreciation for the rather insightful analysis you provided in support of your position. I knew that my contributions would be under scrutiny, but you took the cake with the EAR reference. Your remarks really stood out, and I do believe that it made a difference.

Anyway, please feel free to contact me if you need help with actions requiring administrative access; I shall do my best to be of assistance to you. Cheers, --Aarktica 02:12, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Driver

I've retrieved the lost reference at Driver (film) from when I merged it per notability guidelines for films. Should be good now! :) —Erik (talk • contrib) - 11:49, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

RFA Thanks

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My dear Wikipedian EdJohnston,
Thank you for your participation in my RFA, which closed successfully with 36 supports, 3 opposed, and 1 neutral. No matter if you !voted support, oppose, neutral, or even if you just stopped by to make a comment, I thank you for taking the time to drop by. Since I am a new admin, if you have any suggestions or concerns, feel free to inform me of them. Thank you and good day.

The Placebo Effect

Credits

This RFA thanks was inspired by The Random Editor, who in turn was inspired by Phaedriel's RFA thanks. So unfortunately this is not entirely my own design.

This end the usual RFA thanks spam. You may return to your regular editing now.

RFA Thank You Note from Jehochman

		Ready to swab the deck!
		Another motley scallawag has joined the crew. Thanks for your comments at my RFA. Arrrgh! - - Jehochman Talk 23:32, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

My recent RfA

Thank you for supporting my RfA, which unfortunately didn't succeed. The majority of the opposes stated that I needed more experience in the main namespace and Wikipedia namespace, so that is what I will do. I will go for another RfA in two month's time and I hope you will be able to support me then as well. If you have any other comments for me or wish to be notified when I go for another RfA, please leave them on my talk page. If you wish to nominate me for my next RfA, please wait until it has been two months. Thanks again for participating in my RfA! -- Cobi^(t|c|b|cn) 02:03, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

RfA thanks

		With thanks!
		Thanks for participating in my RfA, which closed successfuly. I leave you with a picture of the real Blood Red Sandman! Note his 'mop' is slightly deadlier than mine! - - Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 18:55, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Disruptive editor

I have serious concerns about Fredsmith2, the fellow who wants to delete the COI templates. There's more here than meets the eye. I've started a case, here. - Jehochman ^Talk 03:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Notability template

Thank you, at last someone who is being genuinely helpful. I will certainly not be tagging any further schools as I am in favour of having articles on schools but had been persuaded by many comments that my article on Hassocks Infant School, which was way more detailed than any I tagged, was utterly useless and against Wikipedia guidelines.Paste 17:34, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Query regarding online sources on Scipio Africanus

You mentioned WP:El. I looked this up, and the part that seems relevant is [3]. Could you tell me what is wrong? I added the online sources, as one of the contributors to the article, because a) not all of us, including me, currently have access to great libraries. b) online sources are not the best sources, but they are better than nothing. I also tried not to copy from those pages, but to use them as sources for more information. As it is, apart from a few biographies and loads of references to Scipio's campaigns, there is very little on Scipio.

User:Wikibiohistory 11:20, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Please see my comments on the Talk:Scipio Africanus page.

Thank you.

wikibiohistory 11:31, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

closed afd

I hope this is the right place to send you a return message. I am new to this site so I am not sure if I wrote my comments on the "Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/St Christopher Iba Mar Diop College of Medicine" page correctly. However, once I wrote my initial comments, I did not edit them or anyone elses comments in any way. Plus, when i wrote my comments, there was nothing written (like there is now) about the page being closed. Also, although u apologized for a vandalism comment, I have no idea where you placed that comment (shows how much of a newbie I am). Please help me out and make it a little clearer what I am did wrong and what I was supposed to have done. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevemackey (talk • contribs) 20:50, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

closed afd

ok, I just figured it out and NO, I did not make that edit at all, someone pretended to be me. If you read the difference in what I wrote and what came after, you can see there are almost exact opposite!! Wow, I am amazed people can do that on this site. Security does not seem to be very good at all. --Stevemackey 20:55, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, since Ed reverted the change within ten minutes, and then double-checked with you just to make sure, it seems our "security" seems to be working pretty darn well. ;) -- Satori Son 21:08, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Good Faith

Please do not assume I was acting in bad faith when I made the Archimedes Plutonium edits. It isn't true--- I was disturbed by the fact that this obviously notable personality does not have a page. It seems like web-2.0 shooting web-0.0 in the foot.Likebox 22:44, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

"If the police did not think he could have been involved in the murders, why would they question him?". This statement reflects a dangerously naive view of how eccentric people are treated by society at large. Please be conscious of the fact that the police harass non-conformist individuals (and members of ethnic minorities) on a daily basis for no reason other than that they stand out in a crowd.Likebox 22:53, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm still patiently awaiting your reliable source on this matter. We are discussing whether a specific individual was unfairly investigated. EdJohnston 01:31, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

You may find this funny, but I don't. I am not making a personal attack. I just want you to be aware of what you have done.Likebox 23:33, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

I apologized to both you and Artie-poo on the AN/I page. It is clear that you were not purposefully smearing AP, but trying to get my goat. It would have been nice to send me an email about the adminstrative status of the page before I sweated so much. However, I still am unhappy about this whole mess.Likebox 02:46, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

RfA Thanks

Thanks, EdJohnston! Thank you for your support in my RfA. It was a success, and I look forward to getting started! Hiberniantears 18:02, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Sybian

I'm very concerned by User:Buttysquirrel's behavior around and since Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard/Archive_18#Sybian. Do you think I should reopen the COIN case, or just pursue it separately? --Ronz 17:56, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Are you still unhappy with the current contents of the Sybian article? I helped out with the COI issue about the Michael Lucas (porn star) article, but the editing that had been going on there was a bit nastier than what you've encountered above, and there were BLP issues. From what I can tell, the most you could argue re Sybian is that he was removing images that he had no right to remove, under our policies. Is that the situation? Unless misbehavior spreads to other articles, if it were my issue I would probably not try to pursue this. The reason is that it's easier to get support for enforcement when violations are blatant and conspicuous than where they need a lot of explanation. Also the yuck factor is involved, and needs to be explained while telling the story. EdJohnston 18:20, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll take it up elsewhere. --Ronz 19:01, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Thee (2007 film) AfD

I happened to notice your question for Universal Hero, and while I am not trying to pre-empt him, I can answer the question - I was the AfD nominator, and I did not notify. I was doing task force tagging and came across a fair number of articles which I subsequently AfD'd as I was doing the tagging task, all around the same time period, and I neglected to get around to notification for any of them, I must confess. Girolamo Savonarola 02:48, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. My very limited survey of one day's worth of AfDs seems to show that few article creators participate in AfD discussions of 'their' articles, and since I'm not enthusiastic about introducing bot notification, I was trying a very unscientific survey of how many creators knew about the nomination. Then I noticed it might be considered canvassing, since these nominations are still open, so I stopped. EdJohnston 02:55, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, if you have intention of getting involved in the actual AfDs themselves, I don't see how it could be construed as canvassing instead of surveying. If you're just compiling statistics. Girolamo Savonarola 03:14, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments!

Thanks for the kind words on my talk page! I plan to try to help out with a lot of the behind the scenes "machinery" like that, that keeps Wikipedia running smoothly. I look forward to working with you further! Arakunem 22:00, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

thanks

I wanted to thank you for stopping in at Mike Huckabee and voicing support for wikipedia's policies. The offsite conversation's getting into the realms of name-calling 'liberal elitists' and such tripe, and on-site, there's extortion attempts, so I'm probably going to have to short-cut BIO for a straight post on AN/I. ThuranX 22:53, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Good luck! Let me know if I can help with anything. EdJohnston 23:00, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

I took it to AN/I. ThuranX 23:57, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

RfA

I notice you asked a few opposers for ideas on what could be done differently, so perhaps this info is of interest. I considered voting in your RfA but did not. I'd just mention a couple of reasons why I didn't support:

1. Edit summaries: I might have supported if you had indicated you would consistently use edit summaries
2. Image policy: This was totally baffling. I couldn't sort out what happens when an admin has differences with image policy but still has to carry out admin tasks according to the rules. Maybe you could have pointed out some other admin who has the same views, but can do his duties anyway.

Since you didn't ask for this feedback, it's fine if you want to delete my comment after you read it. EdJohnston 16:22, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I've enabled prompted edit summaries in my preferences, and I would of course provide edit summaries for every administrative action that I take.

I see now that it was a mistake to allow the RfA to degrade into a debate of my personal views of the purpose behind the non-free content policy. It seems that I was not clear enough that as an administrator, I would have to obey the community's wishes, no matter now much I disagree with them. It would be wrong of me to force my personal opinion on others. In cases where my personal opinion differs from the community's opinion, I will not take any administrative action, but rather leave that to others. This is why I refuse to get involved in most deletion "discussions" revolving around WP:NFCC#10c. —Remember the dot ^(talk) 18:00, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't consider your view on edit summaries to be adequate for administrators. Anti-vandalism tools look for edit summaries, and I think that administrators ought to show the way for others. EdJohnston 18:10, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I have not once been reverted by an anti-vandalism tool, and like I said, I enabled prompted edit summaries and will be using them more often. —Remember the dot ^(talk) 18:14, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Superfruit

Thanks for the comment. I wasn't even aware of WP:NEO, and hadn't yet taken the step of looking through the list of references for independent sources. I've been trying to be very cautious with this SPA, as he's put a lot of time and energy into the article, all in good faith as far as I can tell. --Ronz 01:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

WP:COIN

User:Chella123 has been blocked. Bearian 13:47, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

User:Vishu123 has been blocked, but for only 24 hours, in case the probale cause is unfounded. That should cool him/her/them off. Bearian 13:56, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Phylogenetic systematics

I don't really understand the difference myself, I just noted that phylogenetic systematics redirected there so I assumed they meant roughly the same thing. If this term is going to remain a redirect we should have the word in boldface and spell out the similarities and differences. Richard001 22:53, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

I see your point. I didn't know it had been made into a redirect. Maybe a stubby article instead? Needs further thought. You are right that the redirect shouldn't go there unless the title of the redirect is fully explained at the destination. EdJohnston 23:23, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

3meandEr

I've posted a request for a block or community ban at WP:AN/I#User:3meandEr and Northern Cyprus - your comments as an editor of the Northern Cyprus article would be appreciated. -- ChrisO 11:15, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Link to UST Global leadership team

Dear EdJohnston,

Please find UST Global leadership team in the link http://www.ust-global.com/leadership.aspx

Do you really want to have external links that have outdated/wrong info about an article in Wikipedia? Wiki is an Encyclopedia which is most popular in the world and widely used for collecting accurate information about anything under the sun. Anyway Business Week has updated the content to the actual facts about the leadership team of UST Global. FYI the link to the same http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=4298931. I think now you might have understood why I was removing this link before.

Can I ask you to check few pages in Wikipedia itself regarding UST Global content and find what i am trying to say here? This is very important. Could you please check the link http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=UST_Global&limit=500&action=history.

This link takes you to the earliest revision history page of UST Global. Please find when this page was initially drafted and when did the user Steve Ross started editing the page. This wikipedia page was started in 2005 and Steve came in to picture by 2007. The most interesting thing here you can find is the first few edits by Steve Ross. He added himself as co-founder of UST where right now he wants to mention himself as founder of the company. Don’t you find that this user is inconsistent with his edits and this proves that his intention is to advertise himslef? Also could you please check whether this user has contributed anything else in this Wiki page other than adding his name in different roles of UST Global?

All you want to know about UST Global is available in their website (www.ust-global.com). Also I want to repeat here that I am not here to violate any rules or policies of Wikipedia. I just want to point out the anomalies in this Wiki page. Could you please listen to my request. This is genuine.

Chella123 05:28, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Founder post - UST Global

Dear EdJohnston,

I would greatly appreciate your help and guidance regarding the "founder of company" post on UST Global Wikipedia page.

There are 2 documents which prove that I was the founder of the company, but I have not had them published yet out of respect for the privacy of UST Global:

• The 1998 Tax Records of US Technology Resources, L.L.C which show I was the sole owner of the company in 1998.
• The 2007 AAA Arbitration final ruling which states that I started the company in 1998.

I assume that UST Global would prefer to not have this Arbitration Final Ruling document posted as the Arbitrators ruled in my favor. Likewise, I believe tax filings are typically kept private.

Ed, can I ask you for your guidance on the below questions:

• Can we set-up a private link where I could share the above 2 documents with you and the Administrators of Wikipedia? These will provide conclusive and verifiable proof as to who started the company in 1998. It will be easy to prove that these documents are authentic as this was a multi-million dollar legal proceeding taken up with the American Arbitration Association that ruled in my favor against US Technology Resources, L.L.C.

• Can this posting be resolved without Wikipedia Arbitration as I would prefer to see it resolved in a simply fashion? Thanks for your advise on this point, as I am willing to proceed this way if necessary.

• Would a press release on the internet be sufficient for you and the Administrators of Wikipedia?

Thank you for your guidance and input to the above 3 questions.

Sincerely,

Steve Ross Stevejross 17:52, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Hello Steve, and thanks for your post. On Wikipedia we are encouraged *not* to use primary documents, except in unusual cases. If this page presents a serious problem to anyone our only recourse may be to delete it. This step would only be taken if it is clear that someone believes their personal or company information is being seriously mis-stated. Since your name was removed, the page as it stands does *not* indicate anything about your relationship to the company, favorable or otherwise. So please explain why the current state of the page would be a concern. Naturally if you can find any published sources that tell the story of your relationship to the company, we could put the information back. EdJohnston 18:26, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks - UST Global

Dear EdJohnston,

Thanks much for taking care of my request. Definitely you have taken the right step in resolving the issues in the UST Global Wiki page. Hope that this is sorted out completely.

In case if needed in future, to support my argument I can point several instances from Wikipedia itself that Steve is confused about the edits that he has made in UST Wiki page as well as some other related Wiki pages. I have tracked several instances where he has deliberately attacked one company which is UST Global.

Chella123 10:43, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

I see no evidence of any problems with User:Stevejross's editing on Wikipedia. He has respected our policies and listened to other editors' views. We are only guided here by what the sources say. If more published accounts are found, then we will need to update the article to reflect that. Please be careful with on-wiki criticism of other editors' behavior, since personal attacks are frowned upon. EdJohnston 14:29, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Regarding Robert Young (longevity claims researcher)

In regards to your below comments:

Delete. This expert's qualifications are on the border of what we might consider notable, but I believe that AfD voters are allowed to take into account combative and self-promotional editing during the AfD itself, as well as violations of the conflict of interest guideline, which suggests you should not edit your own biography. (This AfD debate was noticed at WP:ANI, and not without reason). A little humility goes a long way. By a set of standards in Wikipedia whereby most full professors at major universities would be notable, someone this early in his career would not normally be considered notable in a scientific field unless he had made unusual discoveries. I don't believe this has been shown. EdJohnston 01:16, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

First, I do agree with you that 'a little humility goes a long way.' However, some background information must be noted. First, the current dispute began with the nomination of

Category:supercentenarian trackers for deletion. During that discussion, I attempted to suggest compromises, including making this a subcategory of a larger section. Indeed, user BHG initially made comments such as:

Sounds like you have the makings of an article, so why not write the article? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:18, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Which to me sounds like she recognized I was knowledgeable in the subject. However, it soon became:

(masses of irrelevant text deleted). Please read WP:TPG, and please don't use CfD to discuss sources for an article. Thanks --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:36, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

To me, the real issue here is: IS WIKIPEDIA A MEANS UNTO ITSELF? For many Wikipedia editors, admins, and even higher, this has become their raison d'etre, their 'claim to fame'. What matters more is the process, not the result. Thus, rather than operate in a cordial, polite, reasonable manner, activity by 'BHG' began with negative comments and continued with deleting information pertinent to the CFD discussion, not responding personally to 'talk' requests except in a 'talk-down-to' manner. 'Talking down to' includes:

A. Never admitting fault or giving ground, even when the other person does B. Ignoring the other person's suggestions C. Citing alleged 'policy' violations D. Making threats of future consequences

I note that User BHG suggested that she was 'not interested' in this subject, which makes it a blase at best, negative bias. Expecting others to 'do as I say, not as I do' is not the example Wikipedia wants to set. There is some evidence of 'canvassing' and 'votestacking' on her part, including one admission. Not what one would expect from an admin.

In short, the AFD for my personal article came as a result of the CFD dispute...this after I had politely suggested that, since BHG claimed to have a 110-year-old relative, she tell me about this person and we could add her to the worldwide database. This request was NOT responded to; she nominated my article for deletion instead.

Note, in terms of 'promotion': the article as written only links to those other articles where it is relevant: claims to extreme age. This is not mass-advertising. This is not spamming. There is no link to a commercial website that makes money. The article links only to those pages where it is relevant.

Have a nice day. 72.158.38.41 02:40, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Discussions should not be pursued in multiple locations. I prefer that you confine the AfD debate to the page set aside for it. I don't intend to respond here. EdJohnston 02:44, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

No one expects a Pigman admin!

		Wallowing in my RfA: This time it's personal...
		My sincere thanks for your support in my request for adminship, which ended with 51 supports, 0 opposes, and 0 neutral. Doubtless it was an error to put one of the government-bred race of pigmen in any position of authority, but I hope your confidence in me proves justified. Even a man pure of heart and who says his prayers at night can become a were-boar when the moon is full and sweet. Fortunately, I'm neither a were-pig nor pure of heart so this doesn't appear to be an imminent danger to Wikipedia for the moment. Fortunate as well because were-pig hooves are hell on keyboards and none too dexterous with computer mice. If ever I should offend, act uncivil, misstep, overstep, annoy, violate policy, or attempt to topple the fascist leadership of Wikipedia, please let me know so I can improve my behaviour and/or my aim. I am not an animal; I am an admin. And, of course, if there is any way in which I can help you on Wikipedia, please do not hesitate to ask me. Despite my japes, I am indeed dedicated to protecting and serving Wikipedia to the best of my foppish and impudent abilities. I will strive to be an admirable admin, shiny and cool, reasonable and beatific. Pigmanwhat?/trail 05:41, 8 November 2007 (UTC) Post Scriptum: I believe my collaged graphic at left, which incorporates the WP globe and mop image, falls under the rubric of parody for my purposes here. Or is it satire? Regardless, it's a legitimate and legally protected First Amendment usage under US law. Complaints and allegations that this is an improper "fair use" image will be entertained on my talk page, probably with fruit juice, finger food and exotic coffees.

Article rewrite

Hi, I was wondering if you'd had time to review my proposed rewrite at User:Elonka/Franco-Mongol alliance yet? If so, could you please weigh in at Talk:Franco-Mongol alliance#Article rewrite? So far the comments appear to be positive (except of course for PHG), but I'd like to ensure that there's a clear consensus before doing a full implementation. Thanks, Elonka 19:21, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Thanks. I've responded to your question. :-) Nightscream 05:49, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Metric space aimed at its subspace

Hi Ed,

you have written:

The creation of this article by the writer of the only paper cited looks to be a violation of the Wikipedia:Conflict of interest guideline. If I did the search correctly, there are no citations found by MathSciNet to this paper at all. The creator of this article has authored a number of real math papers published in western journals, so to choose such an obscure topic for a new article seems likely to cause difficulty. Notability of this topic can't be established in the conventional way, due to lack of citations to the only reference, so I suggest that it be considered for deletion. EdJohnston 06:41, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

What wrong interest could I have in bringing my paper, published in an obscure journal, to the attention of some of the mathematical public? It looks that you did your research and recognized that I have publications in more recognized journals. Thus my reason is not to gain more recognition. I know what the authentic achievement means and I wouldn't care for a phony one. Thus what else? At the present time I remember only three stages of life: old, ancient and archeological. I am at the archeological stage. I am not competing for any academic or research or, say, AMS positions, or grants or whatever. At my stage, I am active mathematically simply because I like mathematics. OK, so much for the conflict of interests.

Thus why I have decided to write Metric space aimed at its subspace?   I gave part of the answer in the article and in its talk. Since the basic topic of injective (hyperconvex) metric spaces was presented at wikipedia, it's logical and nearly necessary to present also the Aim(X) functor. At wikipedia there is a tendency to iterate the edition of an article. I might consider a more complete functorial description of the topic.

Besides being an essential part and an illustration of the injective metric spaces theme, it also has a distinct elegance and geometric appeal. (Yes, I should do a better job presenting it).

There is a didactic reason for articles about the metric spaces, the category of metric spaces and metric maps, isometric embeddings, ...

On one hand it is an easy to grasp theory. On the other hand it is a very pleasing illustration of the workings of the theory of categories, e.g. the connection between the injective metric and Banach spaces. The theory of isometric embeddings, besides being attractive by itself, is just one step removed from the approximation theory. When you go in this direction then finally you get into deep, profound problems.

So, yes, the metric theory of metric spaces is mostly easy, while it is a healthy, juicy, geometry, which can be combined with the group theory (then you may run into hard mathematical problems) but it has a great didactic value for students, starting with high school, and for high school teachers too. In particular, the theory of metric spaces contains in a most natural way the graph theory, and, independently, some of the theorems on isometric embeddings have a strong graph-theoretic element in their background.

You may remove my article, but by doing so you will distort and cripple the presentation of metric spaces on wikipedia. It is ironic that for you the obscurity of the journal is the reason to remove the article from wikipedia. It should be the merit that counts. Thus it should be just the opposite to what you state: the obscurity of the original source is an extra urgent reason to have its valuable research presented and saved from obscurity by wikipedia.

(One more remark about Aim(X): it gives the most natural context for the classical Kuratowski-Wojdysławski isometric embedding).

Sorry for this long and chaotic comment. (It takes long to write a short one) -- Wlod 07:55, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Cladistics Article

Thanks for your note to me on the Cladistics article. I understand your point 100%. I agree it needs many more citations. Im new to Wikipedia, and I have very little time to devote to it. I am a Computer Engineer, with a strong amateur interest in Evolution, hence my boldness in venturing to improve the Cladistics article. As much as I hate adding a fact to an article without a citation, I think that adding an un-cited fact (that I'm 99.99% sure is accepted by 99.99% of the experts) is better than omitting the fact entirely. That said, I'll make an effort to get some citations in the near future. Maybe next week I'll try to get to the library and get some textbooks so I can start on the citations ... at the moment I have no Evolution/Cladistics books on hand, so Im not in much of a position to do citations.

Noleander 05:05, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

northern Cyprus

Hi Ed, what did you mean by this. Why? is there a dispute as to the law/International community/UN/EU/ECHR? you can see thisthanks3meandEr 17:51, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

RfA

I considered not spamming talk pages but not saying "thanks" just isn't me. The support was remarkable and appreciated. I only hope that I am able to help a little on here. Please let me know if I can help you or equally if you find any of my actions questionable. Thanks & regards --Herby ^{talk thyme} 12:46, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Isearch

Where do you get the idea that Isearch was "just an experiment". Does anything of significance need a web site?

[*] It is still routinely distributed as part of the ports collection of BSD (textproc/isearch).

[*] It has had a large number of users and has been at the search core of many well known sites (including the Open Directory Project which started as NewHoo).

[*] Is hidden in several commercial software packages.

[*] Still has a significant scientific installed base of users in the Geospatial Clearinghouse. Most sites under http://registry.gsdi.org/serverstatus/ are running the public Isearch code! http://registry.gsdi.org/serverstatus/ shows 427 nodes in the network. That software is maintained by http://www.awcubed.com

[*] It continues to be developed, maintained and supported by several organizations.

[*] It forms the basis of numerous split-off developments including the patent search of the WIPO (World Intellectual Property Organization) and the US PTO.

[*] Lives on as part of the IB XML++ engine: http://www.ibu.de/node/52 and several OEM embeded "private label" search engine applications.

Edward Zimmermann (talk) 23:43, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

My RFA (Random832)

Thank you, EdJohnston, for participating in my RFA, which passed 35/1/0. I look forward to helping out. If you have any concerns or suggestions/advice, my talk page is always open.—Random832 14:20, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Michael Lucas (porn star)

Editor Lucasent has five times vandalized the Michael Lucas article over a three-day period, as seen here: [4], [5], [6], [7], [8]. This editor has a history of shenanigans in this article, and now seems intent on removing any reference to Lucas being a male prostitute and founding his company with money he earned in prostitution, facts well-sourced in the article. Other editors have reverted the vandalism but the last incident has gone un-reverted, leaving the references out. Think you can give it a look? --72.76.2.59 (talk) 12:20, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

my vandalism post on assistance page

hi. i just posted a response to you over there. thanks!