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Lady Freedom
The statue on top of the Capitol building's dome is Lady Freedom.
- Well, "the Statue of Freedom" or "Freedom" according to http://www.aoc.gov/cc/art/freedom.htm.
- --wwoods 20:14, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Can anyone find a good quality photo of this statue? Chadlupkes 20:01, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
Can anyone add anything about the Frieze of American History that is the on the dome when you walk inside. It is a great work of art and has a great story about the man who ended up painting it. --198.8.16.1 10:57, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
images
Right now this page has four images of the present dome, and a fifth showing it under construction. But there are no pictures of the original Bulfinch dome. If anybody has access to historical pictures, it would be great to swap one in....Doops | talk 07:12, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Anthem
Can anyone tell me the name of the tune that the bells play at the US Capitol? Pigeonshouse 20:16, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
PS I don't mean Ding Dong Ding Dong! I;m sure when I was walking past it, that it started to play a patriotic American song. Pigeonshouse 20:47, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
- Oh, so you're not talking about the "bells" which are used to call Congress to vote. There are bells outdoors? (SEWilco 04:38, 7 October 2005 (UTC))
- There are no bells on the Capitol itself. The music comes from the Robert A. Taft Memorial and Carillon [1], located across Constitution Avenue from the Capitol, but still on Capitol Grounds. In addition to chiming the quarter-hours, it plays a variety of patriotic and folk tunes — everything from the service songs ("Anchors Aweigh," etc.) to "I Dream of Jeannie with the Light Brown Hair." As SEWilco pointed out, there are bells inside to let folks know what's happening on the floors of the House and Senate. - Virginian74 13:17, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Lying in State
In the article there is a partial list of those who have lain in state in the Rotunda of the Capitol, which includes Officer Chestnut and Detective Gibson, who were shot in the Capitol in 1998. However, they did not lay in state, they lay in honor. They were not due a state funeral, so they could not lie in state. I'm fairly new here, so I'll let one of the more experience hands make the change to the article. A couple of references are from CNN [2] and Slate [3] - Virginian74 14:02, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Razings/Seiges
How many times has the capitol been attacked during wartime? I have some who say 3x, the war of 1812, American Revolution, & Civil War but I'm having trouble finding corraboritive stuff. Anyone got a definite answer? --Duemellon 17:16, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- Once. During the War of 1812 the British invaded Washington and, on August 24, 1814, burned the Capitol, White House and othfer public buildings. The Capitol wasn't constructed until after the Revolutionary War, and the Confederate army didn't enter the City of Washington during the War Between the States. Washington was never attacked during the Mexican or Spanish-American wars, nor during World War I or II or any later wars. Virginian74 16:04, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Technically, during the attack on the capitol in 1814, the White House wasn't there. The building that was to become the White House was attacked and partially burned, becoming the White House later on.
Renovation?
Have there been any renovations for the Capitol in the 20th Century, and will there be any renovations in the near future?
- As mentioned in the main article, the East Front was extended in the late 1950's and early 1960's which provided additional office space and provided a more stable visual base to the dome. In the early 1990's, the courtyards inside the west terrace buildings were filled in with new meeting rooms and office space. Also in the 1990's the painting "Apotheosis of Washington" that occupies the interior of the top of the dome was renovated. Renovations to the building's historical artwork (which includes a vast amount of decorated wall and ceiling spaces), and the mechanical, electrical, communications and ventilation systems go on almost continuously. Virginian74 20:35, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
Flags
From 2 to 4 flags fly over the capitol daily. How often do they change them? Must be very often since it's so easy to obtain one that has been flown there. Sen. Ted Steven's site offers them for sale from $13.05 plus $4.00 shipping. Do they really fly NYLON ones?? Yopienso 05:08, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
As a Hill staffer, I did once ask an employee of the capitol building. He said they raise it and count to three or four and bring it down, so not much actual flying time. As to the types of flags you can order different sizes and materials, so both Cotton and Nylon are flown.--Themanfromlamancha 15:04, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your response, Quixote. Yopienso 03:10, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Note that you're very unlikely to get a flag flown on one of the 4 visible flag poles. They have short, "production line", flagpoles on the roof that are out of sight from the ground (see article). I wonder if the article needs a spoiler or disillusionment warning.--J Clear 00:14, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
"Capitol" vs. "Capitol Building"
I was always taught that the phrase "capitol building" is a redundant expression, as a capitol is by definition a building. I can understand using it in spoken discussions due to the homonym "capital", but not in a written article. — Eoghanacht talk 13:27, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
→In many contexts the two terms may be interchangable, but "the Capitol" can also refer to the whole Capitol complex (that is, the Capitol Building itself, plus the six main office buildings and other congressional departments on Capitol Hill). Also, "Capitol" can be used to refer to the congress in much the same way "the White House" can mean the president (eg. 'The White House called for swift passage of the bill, but there's been no response from the Capitol'). Liffer 09:09, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
there is no way there are 365 steps leading up to the capitol building. Is there a cite for that?141.154.140.63 20:25, 19 April 2006 (UTC)dennis
Ben Franklin
I'm not sure if this is in/should be in a different article, but I remember hearing something about Ben Franklinfinding a spot under the dome of the capitol and at that precise spot you could hear the whispers across the room, which caused his political opponents to believe he was a very skilled politician when he was really just a very clever person. sorrry i dont have a credible source for this, a teacher told me, but if any of you guys do know a source you should definitly put it in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.37.137.178 (talk • contribs) 17:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Benjamin Franklin died in 1790, well before construction of the Capitol even began. —Zero Gravitas 02:18, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- The anecdote you're referring to takes place in National Statuary Hall, I believe. KevinPuj 15:04, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- It was John Quincy Adams and definately Statutary Hall. They have markers on the floor that show you where the spots are and at one JQA had his desk Cranor 18:07 UTC May 14 2006
$50 bill
- The Capitol is depicted on the reverse of the U.S. $50 bill.
This was in the "Features" section. Since it is not a feature of the Capitol itself, I moved it here. Perhaps this tidbit could be worked in somewhere else in the article. - furrykef (Talk at me) 02:50, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Height
I'm looking but I'm not seeing any indication here of how TALL the building is. --Golbez 22:21, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Request for plan
Any chance anyone could add a plan? Wilchett 05:03, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
2nd-to-last paragraph in the "Present Capitol" section
This section is written in a British dialect of English. Should it be re-written in American English, given the subject matter of the article? Words in the paragraph include "queue" (in reference to a line of people), "thence", "whereupon", "massive" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.212.186.1 (talk) 05:48, 10 December 2006 (UTC).
Statue
I don't see any mention of the statue on the capitol building's very apex. I've read that it is of Persephone, goddess of the underworld, but know very little other than that. Wujamie 11:48, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
The US declared independence in 1776, and this was recognized by the British in 1783. What happened in 1780 for it to be considered the "year of American independence" Bastie 16:07, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Capitol Image
The small image in the right column of what purports to be the Capitol in 1800 is, I'm pretty sure, the White House just before its first occupants arrived in 1800 and before its staircases were installed. I do not believe the Presiden't House was ever used as a gathering place for legislators. This image is available at the Library of Congress. CORRECTION-- I WAS MISTAKEN. IT IS THE NORTH WING OF THE CAPITOL . THE IMAGE IS CORRECT
71.165.27.69 16:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Some Questions about the Capitol
The article does not tell us what the capitol was made of: marble, limestone, steel, bricks ...a combination of these? It only mentions the dome, which is made of cast iron. Also, does this ediface conform to a specific style of architecture such as Neo-Classical or Baroque? In my own observations, the East Front is more ornate (note the pediments over the columned porticos) than the West Front.Buddmar 23:38, 22 May 2007 (UTC)buddmar
masonic architecute of capitol hill?
http://www.incapabledesetaire.com/edito/secretwash.htm this website proves that the entire Washington dc area and the capitol hill is masonic and is actually a calender which ends in dec 23 2007. do add it in the article manchurian candidate 14:09, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- And have à look at the owl! http://forums.gamershell.com/index.php?act=ST&f=17&t=13165 here: owl at capitol hill
- This is not notable and should not be inthe article, but I've reverted you twice and don't want to be acused of 3RR, so I'll let someone else deal with it.
- Reverted. A gaming forum, first, is no place to be locating cites for edits concerning the United States Capitol. Second, the poster of the information on that site makes several inaccuracies, such as stating that the Statue of Freedom is a statue of Persephone, and placing its creation in the 20th century, when it was 1865. So lets not perpetuate ignorant statements here. ~ (The Rebel At) ~ 16:04, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
- This is not notable and should not be inthe article, but I've reverted you twice and don't want to be acused of 3RR, so I'll let someone else deal with it.
Live Shots of Capitol Hill
Hi, EarthCam has a cool webcam that shows live views of the Capitol Building and the surrounding grounds. I think it would be a great link to add the the External Links section, but as an employee of EarthCam, I really can't be objective. I was hoping a third party would consider adding the link. Thanks!
TelcontarOfBree 17:53, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- You'd be surprised how many "great links" poeple would like to add. We don't have room for all of them, and we're not a link directory. Thanks anyway. ·:·Will Beback ·:· 18:36, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Article re-organization
Looking over the article, I feel like it could be better organized. For example, rather than throw a list of former capitols at the reader, we should launch right into the history of the present Capitol building. Place the list at the end of the article, as the subject material is not relevant to the focus of the article which is the present Capitol building. Long lists also serve to disrupt the article, such as the long list for the House chamber, could this be better placed in the article, re-structured, or even removed and placed on an article page specifically for the House chamber? Not to mention the absence of any information on the Senate chamber makes the article appear unfinished and incomplete. Other than the above, the actual construction history of the building needs to be expanded and clarified, something I'll attempt to do that doesn't require input like the re-organization. ~ (The Rebel At) ~ 15:37, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
- We now have a link to the "List of U.S. capitals" in the section, which includes all the information from the list on this page. Let's get rid of the list and make that the main article link. --Aude (talk) 15:49, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
1998 Shooting, Calhoun statue
After reading the Wiki article, and several of the referenced articles for the 1998 shooting, I cannot find much evidence that actually places the shooting in the Crypt, itself. The shooting appears to have happened in a corridor adjacent to the Crypt. Can anyone find any evidence at all that supports that the John C. Calhoun statue WAS hit by stray bullets during the shooting? Right now, I'm doubting this story, and unfortunately, there are plenty false stories about the Capitol, and this may be one of them. If this does prove false, it should be removed from the article. I will ask around tomorrow to find out more at work. I do know that there is a memorial plaque to the two officers located in a hallway around the corner from the Crypt. ~ (The Rebel At) ~ 00:11, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- After some personal investigation, speaking with folks who were working at the Capitol at the time, it turns out Calhoun's statue was in the area of the shooting and later moved to the crypt. This, thus explains the issue that had me boggled. ~ (The Rebel At) ~ 21:12, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Inspiration
Could someone who know the history of this building check out this edit here [4]. Thanks Giano 18:36, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
- When I head into work on Monday, I'll check our reference library to see if I can offer better clarification on the matter of Thorton's inspiration. ~ (The Rebel At) ~ 21:17, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
- I took it out. Can't find any sources, including in various books I have, nor by searching on Google Books and elsewhere. If someone finds a reliable source for it, we can restore that edit. --Aude (talk) 21:25, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
- Don't worry - I doubt you will find a reliable source for it. Giano 21:27, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
- Agree. His inspiration for the design, appears to be the Pantheon for the center portion of the design, as well as the east front of the Louvre. [5] --Aude (talk) 21:39, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
- I also have concerns about the Barbaro family article. As noted on User talk:Tiki-two, I found some problematic, non-notable articles created by the user which needed to be speedy deleted. Some of the material in the article looked dubious to me, but I don't know enough to really deal with the article. --Aude (talk) 21:50, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think you are the only one with concerns there :-) Giano 21:52, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
- I also have concerns about the Barbaro family article. As noted on User talk:Tiki-two, I found some problematic, non-notable articles created by the user which needed to be speedy deleted. Some of the material in the article looked dubious to me, but I don't know enough to really deal with the article. --Aude (talk) 21:50, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
- Agree. His inspiration for the design, appears to be the Pantheon for the center portion of the design, as well as the east front of the Louvre. [5] --Aude (talk) 21:39, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
- Don't worry - I doubt you will find a reliable source for it. Giano 21:27, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
- Problem averted, I'll rest easy on Monday, then! ~ (The Rebel At) ~ 14:25, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
- I took it out. Can't find any sources, including in various books I have, nor by searching on Google Books and elsewhere. If someone finds a reliable source for it, we can restore that edit. --Aude (talk) 21:25, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Cites
Anybody have cites for the first paragraph of the Security section? Murderbike (talk) 17:17, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- I think I've cleared up the issue of responsibility for the 1983 bombing. The article originally stated that the John Brown Anti-Klan Committee was responsible, but the group that claimed responsibility was actually the Armed Resistance Unit. Three members of the group later pleaded guilty. There was certainly some overlap in membership, but it's not quite accurate to say that the JBAKC was responsible. However, six members of the group were found in contempt for refusing to testify in the case. Unfortunately, the stories are pre-Internet, so the original sources are only available on paper or through Lexis/Nexus.Mycota 16:58, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
the "front" of the Capitol
According to the professional Capitol tour guides, it is not correct to state that either side of the Capitol is the "front." The west front, however, is the side that was designed for receiving important visitors to the Capitol, and it is the site of the presidential inauguration ceremonies. Moreover, L'Enfant chose this location for the Capitol because of its commanding view of the National Mall. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.231.249.141 (talk) 21:30, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
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