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A color image of Earth as seen from Apollo 17.


Bravo Two Zero - images of Escape Maps

Please do not remove important images from Wikipages, as you did in Bravo Two Zero; it is considered vandalizm. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BinAl-Turki (talk • contribs) 09:45, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not remove images containing important information as you did in Bravo Two Zero; it is considered vandalizm. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing. Furthermore spurious removal of important images discourages those who have original images from supplying them and several images of the original locations may become available after the hot months are over. I am sure I do not have to point out to you that those bringing new information to Wikipedia or original images are rare but those imagining that they might have editing skills very numerous indeed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BinAl-Turki (talk • contribs) 13:10, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why?

So, a direct quote to an inside joke made within the dialog of the US version of "Life on Mars" is somehow not appropriate?

So far, I've tried to make a few Wiki pages and every time, someone wipes out my contribution.

Have you actually watched the pilot yet? People like you are making me stay away from this.

Rhudi (talk) 14:45, 19 June 2008 (UTC)Rhudi[reply]

Hello Rhudi

I reverted your edits because they do not conform with Wikipedia standards, Wikipedia requires all text to be "cited" what this means is that controversial text is needed to be backed up by another Website proving its reliability. This is nothing personal, I am simply helping the article conform to the required status, for more information you can read about it in detail from Wikipedia:Citing sources. My aim is not to deter you from editing, far from it. If you need any help with anything else, you can by all means contact me on my talkpage. Many thanks, yours. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 14:50, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

random reverts

My addition is a direct quote from the dialog of the US pilot episode.

And, if you care to look, there are all kinds of pages about jokes right here, in Wiki-land.

I wonder if I can look up "Joke" in a real encyclopedia?

So, maybe I didn't add the reference in the right manner. Thanks for the help. Teach me to contribute. Yeah, I sound bitter.

Rhudi (talk) 15:07, 19 June 2008 (UTC)Rhudi[reply]

Rhudi, dont make this personal I am just doing my duty to Wikipedia. The thing is Rhudi, I do not doubt that this is not a quote off of the pilot. But on Wikipedia it needs to be referenced as it is controversial, try looking up it on the web and getting another site with the info on it. I would happily teach you to contribute better, but your making it hard for me to get my point across. Most editors would have just slapped a warning template on your talk page, where as I am taking a portion out of my own time to try and educate you. So try to be a little helpful if you would be so kind. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 15:14, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Happy First Day of Summer!

Happy First Day of Summer!

Lol I didn't even get to give you one and you already had sent me one :).--Mifter (talk) 20:06, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for stepping in there. I apologise for my use of "the F word", but the anons who continually contribute to the Ritchie Jones article really grind my gears. I know I should keep my cool with these sorts of things, but when people act like that, it's rather vexing. Anyway, thanks for not templating me. – PeeJay 08:47, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thats quite alright, your a good editor and everyone loses it with those damned IP adresses. Yours. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 08:56, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Nothin

Nice to speak to you. Not done anything in ages, it seems like everything has been done on wikipedia already> what have you been up to - J.Naven 11:35, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have done a lot of cleanup lately. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 18:05, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I might do some cleanup. show the vandals what happens when they mes with Wikipedia - J.Naven 09:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Special Air Service

There was a type error in the sub-article page. That has been fixed, as you'll see, and is working properly. Thank you for your input though.

June 2008

Hello Mark, I have changed your edits on The Bill article. I think it is much more logical to have Uniformed Constables as exactly that instead of Police Constables because if you have the DCs and the PCs it gives the misconception that the PCs are the only police in the list, thank you. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 15:29, 24 June 2008 (UTC) [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 15:29, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Police,Mad,Jack. I'm afraid I will have to disagree with you on this. Whilst I agree that it may be clearer for those who are unfamiliar with UK Police Ranks, the actual title for constables in uniform is Police Constable, hence their prefix of PC rather than UC as would be appropriate to Uniformed Constable. Similarly with Sergeants in uniform being commonly refered to as Police Sergeants, hence their prefix being PS respectively (although not as widely used and dependent on force culture). As I said, I agree that it may be unclear in this context, but because this is the recognised way I feel it should stay. And surely the fact that DCs remain to have Constable in their title at the absence of Police gives similar connotations? I will post the subject on The Bill's disscussion page in order to archive opinions of other editors. Coincidentally, looking at the history on The Bill at the moment, it would appear another editor agrees with me. Please make your views clear on the discussion page. Many thanks. Mark Bickley 19:31, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Although I do not disagree with you, I do think it should be made known that PCs and DCs are both police. Because if you knew little about ranks, personally if it was me I would be tempted to think it was only the characters with the "Police" prefix who were in such a service. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 14:00, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree with you Police,Mad,Jack, but I don't think that The Bill is the place to do this. The page is dedicated to providing information on the programme, not the distinction between ranks in the police. Perhaps it would be more appropriate to add this information to Constable and Sergeant, as the sole purpose of these pages is to give information on those ranks? Mark Bickley 18:21, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, fair enough. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 17:27, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Welcome

Cheers for the welcome! Mark Bickley 22:08, 01 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My pleasure Mark, enjoy your time at the project =]. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 14:09, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

RE: Admin coaching

Sure, I'd be glad to. I'll make the page and we'll start in July? weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 22:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah its fine with me, we'll start when your ready. Thanks alot for accepting. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 14:34, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

b2z revert

yh thats fine. just read the mcnab book cover 2 cover over the weekend n he said 4 carried minimi's n the other 4 had the M16 w/ 203gl's. With regards to pistols, it's mentioned specifically they didn't carry pistols as they would of came in handy when they had hijacked a car. no reason why they weren't issued on the mission as it is a typical sidearm so not sure where to go with that.

Thanks for that anyway :)

oh and gd luck with going into the Police Force! User:Trigg_travers, 1 July 2008 @ 22:00BST

Thank you very much, you are right they didnt use pistols. I will take that sentance out if it is still there. Sorry. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 14:00, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Cite

"Any material that is challenged, and for which no source is provided within a reasonable time, may be removed by any editor."

The first removal was a challenge, and so I readded it and added a "citation needed" notation so that if a citation can't be found in a "within a reasonable time" it can be removed.

I do know wikipedia policy. Thank you for your time. Duggy 1138 (talk) 01:37, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your time also. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 14:07, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

July 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your edit summaries did not appear to be constructive. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia.

Hi Police,Mad,Jack. I don't wish to sound annoying, but I noticed that your latest edit summary on The Bill contained something that could be deemed as inappropriate. Whilst I agree that the edits you were reverting could be classed as vandalism, it is important to maintain a level of professionality, regardless of how frustrating it can be at times. I've noticed that you will beginning Admin Coaching, which I think is very good of you, so I would hate for such instances to reflect badly on you in the future. Cheers. Mark Bickley 19:13, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Although I understand your concern, if it was truely of me branding another editors work as "Bollocks" in the swearword. I was actually referring to Wikipedia:Complete bollocks, it can be proved that this is what I meant due to me redirecting the page to "WP:Bollocks" whereas if I was using it as the general swear word I surely I would not have bothered to put "WP:" before. I understand that my redirect was not correct as it did not link, but please understand my actions were not as you though. Many thanks, yours. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 13:56, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Well you learn something new everyday! I never would have thought Wiki would recognise such a phrase in this way. My apologies. Mark Bickley 9:51, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

None needed my friend, none needed. You did what your gut told you to, I would have done the same thing in your shoes. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 12:03, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

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re Alison McAtee

I declined the PROD, and I am about to decline the Speedy, on the basis of the number of google hits. I think she shades notability, and there are no BLP concerns to worry about. If you insist, you might try an AfD. LessHeard vanU (talk) 22:05, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I didnt realise it had lots of Google hits. I wouldnt have PROD'ed or AFD'd, many thanks. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 07:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Reverting copyediting

Hello. Could you please pay more attention when reverting other users' copyediting work? If you disagree with a single element in a large amount of copyediting, you should correct only that single element - you appear to be reverting solid copyediting work with little or no explanation, going so far as to tell one copyeditor that "Your edits did nothing to help". You're losing a lot of important corrections to spelling, grammar and layout in the process; this might not feel important to you personally, but it is important to Wikipedia. --McGeddon (talk) 09:04, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean about this edit not being pure copyedit? It actually just seems like pure formatting, of the "uniform" section being converted into a readable, clearly-flowing series of paragraphs, rather than one-sentence sections. --McGeddon (talk) 09:38, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

McGeddon, I feel we have had this conversation before. How many times do I have to ask for you not to stalk my edits, I know you will try and deny it but at the end of the day you do. No question about it, the user concerned with the copyedit blanked information which was not neceassary. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 09:44, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

If I see an editor making a bad call in an article I'm watching then, yes, I check their other recent edits to make sure they haven't made the same bad call in other articles. You had, so I thought I'd ask you about it.
What information do you believe has been "blanked" in this case? And why did you feel that this perfectly useful copyediting "did nothing to help"? --McGeddon (talk) 09:59, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have no problem, with this copyedit. Except the lead I think it would make more sense to have this:

Firearms Unit is the traditional name for the section in forces outside of the capital, while that of London's Metropolitan Police Service is called the Specialist Firearms Command, or CO19. Within the media it is sometimes compered to the SWAT units of the United States. A Police Officer cannot apply to the Firearms Unit without first finishing their two year probationary period with a further two years in a core policing role.[1].

Before the text about officers having to complete their probationary period before applying. Because it breaks the text up, and looks out of place. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 10:05, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay, that's fine. But if you don't have a problem with the rest of someone's copyediting, don't revert the whole thing just to fix one sentence. --McGeddon (talk) 17:48, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop doing this, Jack. If you object to a single aspect of an editor's multiple changes, then you should change only that aspect back - you shouldn't revert the whole edit. I know it's easier, but you're deleting useful work by doing this. --McGeddon (talk) 11:53, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fiona Dolman speedy request

Hi there - you have tagged this G6 but haven't explained why either in the template, on the talk page or in your edit summary. Could you please remedy this as there is simply not enough information to make a decision on deletion at the moment. Thanks in advance, Kind regards, nancy (talk) 09:58, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, thank you for bringing this to my attention. I didnt even think about providing a reason at the time due to me being tired and late at night, although now I realise one must be given, and have done so in the edit summary. My ignorance comes from that being the first time I have ever PROD'ed or AFD'd, so I am very new. Many thanks, yours. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 10:08, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

reply to where in the UK?

i'm in oxfordshire --Madcow 93 (talk) 14:13, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cambridge, England. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 14:25, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

User:Blackshod

No worries. I just cannot understand why the likes of this and another character persist in this childish behavior. On military posts, there sometimes appears to be a certain amount of professional jealousy and with one press of a key decides to delete vast swathes of work. I only hope that in the future, the likes of Blackshod can be reprimanded in some way. Take it easy (Archangel1 (talk) 15:54, 6 July 2008 (UTC)).[reply]

Aside from the military thing, he constantly cyber stalks/cyber bullys me. But be wary he is clever, he does this by doing it through his IP adrss and sockpuppets. He has a thing about cyber following me for some reason, honestly believe me I'm not exaggerating. No one i've told seems to care. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 15:58, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Welcome new member to Law Enforcement Wikiproject on the English Wikipedia!

With me, you get both a new to Wikipedia and new to Law Enforcement Wikiproject. You also get the secretary of the Ohio Bail (bond) Agents Association. www.obaa.org I have been involved in bail for 16 years.

Over the past few years, I used Wikipedia thousands of times while doing research, and saw countless errors and omissions, but only recently have I begun to make tiny edits to improve the encyclopedia. Over time, I expect to grasp the proper eticate, culture, and syntax necessary to edit without objection.


I have a special project that I hope Wikipedia contributors can assist me:

Automatic number plate recognition (ANPR, AVI, CPR, LPR, LAPI)

ANPR is sometimes known by various other terms:

Automatic licence plate recognition (ALPR) Automatic vehicle identification (AVI) Car plate recognition (CPR) Licence plate recognition (LPR) Lecture Automatique de Plaques d'Immatriculation (LAPI)

I am trying to identify, locate, & unwravel the individuals, companies, & government agencies who produce ANPR software, firmware, & hardware.

Can you assist me in this endevour?

Sponsion (talk) 13:19, 8 July 2008 (UTC) sponsion in North Canton, Ohio[reply]

Hello Sponsion

I am willing to help the best I can in anything you need to me to help you with, but I am unsure exactly to what you are asking. Are you asking me to help you set up a project like WP:LE but instead of law enforcement ANPR? Or are you asking me to help you make contributions. Please do reply, because I would be willing to help. Thanks, yours. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 14:52, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

My apologies

My intent on adding community development & crime prevention institute has nothing to do with advertizing - and I didn't think it was inappropriate. I am just trying to get information out to the proper groups concerning drime reduction. Please let me know why you feel that this is not a good thing? Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rotterstatter (talk • contribs) 16:41, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not an indisicriminate collection of links, we are here to build an encyclopedia. Not to cater for a list of links. Thank you. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 17:37, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Edits to PC Disambiguation

Hi -- your edits on PC don't fall within the WP manual of style for disambiguation pages:

  • Signatures are for talk pages, not articles
  • Section titles in WP should not be in "title caps" (every word capitalized) but in "sentence caps" (only initial word and proper names capitalized)
  • Entries should only appear once: both Police Constable and Philippine Constabulary are already on the page
  • There should be exactly one navigable link per entry: in other words, for Philippine Constabulary, you should not link Philippines or any other phrase
  • Entry descriptions should be concise; they don't need to give the entire history of each entry -- the reader is expected to go to the article itself, so you don't need to add what happened to the Philippine Constabulary, you can just say it is a former organization.
  • There's already a section including "Law", which seems a reasonable place to have both of these entries.

Regards, NapoliRoma (talk) 17:15, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, I dont know what made me put my signature in such a place. Although that was the only one of the above that my edit was in contrevention of, yours. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 17:38, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Civility

"Here we go again McGeddon, nothing gets through to you does it." - please try to be WP:CIVIL, Jack. I read your edit summary, that's why I added a "fact" tag to the sentence in question; yes, it's unsourced, but it's not obviously incorrect, and it'd be more helpful to the article to flag it for a week or two to see if anyone can provide a source. --McGeddon (talk) 17:16, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, sorry. The speed at what you come to my edits at makes me a little sort of bemused sometimes. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 17:40, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Within half an hour? The article in question was on my watchlist, that's all. If it's a slow afternoon, I'll usually check my watchlist a few times. --McGeddon (talk) 09:11, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion

Regarding the page Duane Howe, which you tagged for speedy deletion with the reason "an article about a real person that does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject", I wanted you to know that I have removed the speedy deletion tag. This page does not qualify for speedy deletion under that criterion because this is an article about a fictional character, not a real person. If you still want the page to be deleted, please re-tag it under a CSD criterion that applies, consider redirecting the article, or use the proposed deletion or the articles for deletion processes. Thanks! Stifle (talk) 17:52, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 17:55, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Bravo Two Zero

Can you please not use vandalism notices to deal with the content dispute you have with User:BinAl-Turki over Bravo Two Zero? Adding a free image such as Image:Bravo Two Zero Escape Map RHS 3.jpg is not, in itself, an act of vandalism; it's therefore inappropriate to template him instead of addressing your concerns via discussion, preferably at the article talk page. Thank you. --Salvador Barley (talk) 13:45, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that there is not point in having two images of the same map, especially when the diesired content on the second picture can be seen on the original. Thanks. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 14:02, 9 July 2008 (UTC

Flying Squad

It is an elite branch of the Met and I linked it to a source - why have you removed it? 'Arry Boy (talk) 15:24, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I dont wish to fall out over trivial things, if you insist of the "elite" of the squad. I suggest you put something under the text of the lead, "Sometimes within the Media the Flying Squad is referred to as elite" and then your reference. If you do this, you will not be in breach of the point of view guidelines, if you do this hopefully we will both be happy? [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 16:52, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

No Mad Jack I will do nothing of the kind. And no I am not happy, don't you warn me for insertting sourced information, I will be adding nothing more to this article. 'Arry Boy (talk) 17:00, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That was not my intention at all, I urge you to continue editing. If I had not picked up on it, I assure you someone else would have. I was friendly, and polite. But if that is the way you feel best, who am I to try and persuade you differently, all the best. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 17:03, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh I see, being friendly and polite consitutes putting two warnings on my page does it? No, I have nothing more to add to the article. 'Arry Boy (talk) 17:07, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They are just pre-set templates provided by Wikipedia, I was polite in the sense that I gave you a very clear explanation of the problem. Also I actually gave a reason, you'd be surprised how many editors warn, but dont give a reason, and if they do, its not always polite. Yours, [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 17:09, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

New WikiProject

A New WikiProject has been proposed as a sub-project of Medicine. Your opinion would be appreciated as you are listed as a "intrested User" on the Project page. Please take part in the discussion, located here. Exit2DOS2000•T•C• 03:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bravo Two Zero

For your information, please see my post here. GBT/C 12:05, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Specialist Police units of Britain

{{Specialist Police units of Britain}} is all you need to put ;) ninety:one 21:26, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

and it goes just before the categories, not in See also. ninety:one 21:28, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh right, I didnt realise. Thanks mate. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 21:27, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi guys. On this template. I expect you have an inkling on this already, but it's not entirely appropriate to classify the police force of the Republic of Ireland as a "police force in Britain". Britain is generally defined as equivalent to either the UK or Great Britain. And Ireland (the republic at least) is not a constituent of this. So, including police units of the Republic of Ireland in this context is not really appropriate. I will be removing this template from the Irish police sub-articles as a result. Let me know if you have any questions. Guliolopez (talk) 13:32, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Valid point, I will remove the ROI. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 13:42, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Territorial Support Group

why did you revert a perfectly well referenced addition? ninety:one 17:56, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your into all this sorta stuff, surely you dont want to see such a silly addition into the article which has no encyclopedic value. Anyway, it is NPOV. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 18:56, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Plus, the reference does not work. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 18:57, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

What do you mean by "does not work"? Have you checked the book and found nothing there?
Also, I'm not sure that WP:NPOV means what you think it means. It doesn't mean that we can't quote any praise or criticism at all. --Goldrivet (talk) 09:28, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A book reference needs to be filled in. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 09:31, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

What do you mean? He mentions the specific page number of a specific book. That is sufficient for a citation.
I have removed your inappropriate NPOV warning from the IP address's userpage, as this edit was not "commentary or personal analysis". --Goldrivet (talk) 09:34, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This has to stop now, stop stalking me. Any more and I will report you to your provider. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 09:37, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Please do not threaten other Wikipedia users. Also, "stalking" is a very loaded and offensive word and should not be used lightly. --Goldrivet (talk) 09:39, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But you was stalking me, you was watching what I was doing so you could have some affect on it. I appeal to you, please just leave me the hell alone. I have done nothing to you, all my edits are done with a good reason, Wikipedia is a big place, I have no problem with you, I was even thinking of putting a friendly welcome notice on your talk page. But now, I will be thinking twice about it. Please just leave me alone. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 09:47, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Flying Squad, Battle of London Airport

Thanks for your comments on my edit to the Flying Squad page. I acknowledge the need for referencing but have no idea on how to do it and would be grateful for any assistance you can give. My main sources are: my father's (Charles Hewett) notebooks and diary entry for the event; my perusal of the Met Police file of the case; an article my father wrote about the case in the London Police Pensioner some while back; conversations with various other officers involved; an article in the Sunday Times of September 18 1960 by Donald Fish; a report of the trial in the London Evening Standard; The Book, "The Flying Squad" by Brian Hilliard. I'd like to get the edit back up by Monday if poss as it's the 60th anniversary of the event. If you can assist I'll be grateful.

Brinyon (talk) 16:33, 26 July 2008 (UTC) Brinyon[reply]

Hello Brinyon

I realise that by me deleting your contributions on the Flying Squad article, you may have though that it was for the sake of it, or even just to be nasty - this is certainly what I though the first time it happend to me. But, it was actually none of the above. On Wikipedia we have a huge problem of people adding utter rubbish to articles, to combat this "Referencing" text has been brought into place. What this means is that the text you submit, should be backed up by a third party site or book. And of course, I will help you all I can to reference this information. If this information come from a book I would strongly suggest filling in this:

<ref>{{cite book |title= (title here) |last= (last name of author) |first= (first name) |authorlink= (optional)|coauthors= (if any) |year= |publisher= |location= |isbn= |pages= }}</ref>

You can copy this to reference to a sentance in an actual article, after filling it in. If you do copy it, copy everyting except the "nowiki" with brackets like these "<" and ">" at either end. Also the reference should not have any gaps between the words in the sentance that needs referencing. If you are trying to reference any other way I suggest looking at WP:Citing sources, also as I have no desire to make life hard for you, I will restore your additions, but please do reference them as soon as you can. Please write back, so I know you have seen this message. All the best, [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 18:17, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank You

Hi there, thanks for your comments on my talk page and on the Talk:Special Air Service#Merger proposal discussion. It's good to have confirmation that I'm not going mad. :D --Deadly∀ssassin 19:01, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

lol, my pleasure. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 19:07, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Flying Squad, Battle of London Airport

Jack, Thanks for restoring, there's quite a few old boys out there still who'll be looking in over the next few days! I didn't think you were being difficult, your msj made it clear what was required and you've now given me the means (I hope!) to reference. I'll do that later today. Many thanks Regards Brinyon (talk) 07:17, 27 July 2008 (UTC) Brinyon[reply]

The Flying Squad

Jack, The references are on but I needed several goes! Hopefully I'll get better at this!Thanks for your help. Brinyon (talk) 11:40, 28 July 2008 (UTC) Brinyon[reply]

Your very welcome =] [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 13:42, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

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RE: userpage vandalism

No problem :). Ironholds 12:51, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your'e most welcome:) All the best, 'Arry Boy (talk) 13:26, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bravo Two Zero

I see that the edit war continues at Bravo Two Zero and that neither you nor BinAl-Turki have taken any steps to resolve the dispute whilst the article was protected. I have re-protected it - please read my comment on the talk page. GbT/c 13:02, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your message - BinAl usually seems to post around 11.00UTC, so I'll leave it until tomorrow to see if he has anything further to add, then review the discussion to see exactly where the consensus lies. How does that sound? GbT/c 20:45, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds fine =], thanks! All the best, [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 20:53, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Charging in flying wedge

  • I have been trying to make a CGI (computer-generated imagery) image of a riotsquad charge-in-wedge, and what I came up with was this:
    • Men forming the left side of the wedge: shield on left arm held at an angle facing partly left, baton in right hand.
    • Men forming the right side of the wedge: shield on right arm held at an angle facing partly right, baton in left hand.
    • At the point: one man holding his shield facing straight forwards.
    • All men running in step so that they do not kick each others' legs.

Hello Anthony

Yes, this is largely how police would carry out such a tactic, although within the British police - if that is what you are trying to model your image on? Only very highly trained officers would be able to carry out the wedge, such as the Met Polices Territorial Support Group or outside of London, the Support unit. I have seen in one of my many books on police, that sometimes they operate in a double wedge like such: ">>" where the first line of officers in the wedge carry heavy perspex head to toe shields to stop projectiles, and the second line in the wedge the officers carry batons and a smaller circular shield. So the answer to your question is that many different forces, basically have many different training tactics in riot control, although your interpretation of it is one of the most common - so I do not see what not you should proceed. Any further questions, I would be happy to try my best to help =]! All the best, [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 19:23, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Very good, Anthony. I'm sure it will be a credit to the wedge article. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 08:47, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

thebillfansite link on The Bill page

Hello! I don't begrudge the people from thebillfansite having a link, despite the not very useful comments in their link and deletion of the link for the Sierra-Oscar fansite. I wonder if we should let the link stand, but without the strange comment they had?

Many thanks for your time. :)Sonnenbarke (talk) 11:10, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Sonnenbarke

I think it would be worth including the official Bill website, as well as a fansite. So I'll leave this to your discretion to re-add them, but when you see an IP adress or any user add a fansite it must be considered carefully because the majority of fansites are not helpful because they do not add encyclopedic value, many thanks, all the best. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 11:45, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for your thoughts. Having been a member of many fansites over the years, I can certainly attest to the varying amounts of encyclopedic value they can have! I may leave the page as it stands and do some research on the Wiki pages of other tv shows to see at what level one should be aiming. I suppose duelling links makes a change from having to deal with the fantasy casting edits! Cheers! Sonnenbarke (talk) 05:16, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RE: T/DC Kezia Walker

I thought she had passed her training period with CID, to become detective trained out of uniform it takes a year, and she's been in it since 2006. Also I'm sure I remember her being nervous in one of the episodes because she was going for her final examinations, but on The Bill website it says she's still a TDC, strange, huh? [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 08:40, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I know I think there is a bit of ambiguity going on. I will have to watch the credits for her next appearance, see what she is credited as playing... Mark Bickley 19:32, 08 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Philip Glenister Forum...

I changed the PG site as the link to the PG tribute site was a dead link..also ...i think it is only fair as one fan site dies another one springs up...hope thats ok with you.

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Muchfaster (talk • contribs) 17:04, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thats fine, thanks for doing that. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 17:09, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

PG Site..?

Sorry ...why did you delete the..links to the fan sites.?/lugis and The railway arms are linked to on Phils own website...I must be missing something...

Thanks.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Muchfaster (talk • contribs) 17:50, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, on Wikipedia it is a rule that on articles you do not include fansites. Because usually these sights have little to no encyclopedic content, due to a fansite being set up in the hope that it exsists to bring fans together to chat, swap stories etc. And you see everything on Wikipedia should be kept encyclopedic, such as the fansite to his actual website etc. I'm sorry if you feel that I am over exerting myself taking off these sites, but at the end of the day - these are the rules. I hope we reach an understanding, thanks. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 17:54, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Re Pg Site..

Hi Sorry dont know how to do the reply...

Im curious to know why you have taken it upon yourself to delete the links that have been on for Months...The railway arms forum is one of the best sites on the web..the writers and actors have all contibuted to the site ...And it is without doubt enhances the world or LOM ...which i have to add the fan site links are still on the wiki page ...I think it is unduly unfair of what you have done...I think it is subjective to say that the railway arms..and lugis are not adding to the encyclopedia...quite honestly it would be poorer without it..I would like to know who else i could speak to regarding this..(with no disrepsect to yourself.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Muchfaster (talk • contribs) 18:07, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I dont make the rules friend, its just every editors duty to civilly enforce them best they can. The thing is, is that the Philip Glenister sites (some of them) are fansites which even have it in the title I am willing to review all the sites, which I will do now. But I'm afraid some will have to go, the ones which are in breach of Wikipedia policy anyway. And by the way to reply to someone elses message if it is of the same subject their is no need to make a new heading each time, you just put your message under the related piece of text in relation to your comments. Also I see that you have not recieved the "warm welcome" template on your usertalk page. Thanks, [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 18:48, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I have included your fansites, in a seperate list. I should not be doing this though, be grateful. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 18:56, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Very Happy ..Thanks Jack..Enjoy the railway arms..& Lugis...You will find they are not your average "fan" site..they enhance the viewing of both LOM & Ashes to Ashes...Thanks & Regards...--Muchfaster (talk) 19:27, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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