Talk:Koke (footballer, born 1983)

Koke's article

Fellow users, this is VASCO AMARAL FROM PORTUGAL.

Don't know who wrote the "article" on this player (seemed more like an ode to me), but i had to erase tons of it, due to:

1.POOR ENGLISH;

2.SENTENCES OF NONSENSICAL PROPORTION ("he's a guy who has put some kilos at Marseille", or "he's a guy who goes to see ARIS basketball games" (the sentences are not verbatim here, it is just to give you an idea). He also was one of SAMIR NASRI's best friends while at MARSEILLE!!! WHAT THE HELL IS THIS ALL ABOUT?

3.POV OF THE HIGHEST LEVEL (Juventus, among other clubs, wanted the player, and also SIENA after JUVENTUS quit, but he chose MARSEILLE because (verbatim now) - "cuz Marseille was better and more famous club, of course, than Siena".

I THINK I LEFT A PRETTY FAIR ARTICLE, IF ANYBODY IS ANGRY (AS MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST WHEN I ONLY WANT TO HELP) AND WANTS TO REVERT IT BACK TO THIS PIECE OF GARBAGE, FEEL FREE, I WILL NOT HELP BACK IN THIS ARTICLE IF I FIND IT REVERTED TO THE "ORIGINAL"; IF PEOPLE WANT TO READ ARTICLES OF BAD QUALITY, OK BY ME. PLEASE DO NOT TELL ONE CANNOT ERASE WITHOUT CONSULTING, BECAUSE THEN I WOULD TELL THE OPPOSITE (NO WRITING AT WILL WITHOUT CONSULTING), AND THE TALK PAGE WAS COMPLETELY EMPTY BEFORE I ENTERED THIS REQUEST.

Thanks for listening, only wanted to help as always, GREETINGS EVERYBODY,--217.129.67.28 21:31, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Reply to fellow Vasco Amaral

Hi. Here is a passionate Aris fan writing, who also updated many other articles regarding Aris like Thiago Gentil, Enrique Quique Hernandez, Ronald Nacho Garcia and some more... Just first for the record: Koke is much better player than what he produced late in Marseille and Sporting Lisbon and definitely deserves at least a couple of nice words.

I actually wrote that article. Only thing I agree with you on is the fact that the article was, indeed, kind of too subjective and personal- expressing emotions, tribute and respect towards the footballer rather than writing the facts on. And more on your afore-mantioned points:

1. English wasn't poor in general. I rather used an informative and forum writing (for example, instead of "because" I just put "cuz" and a few more little mistakes...). Also I was ready to correct it after I had realized what I made with the writing which I once got accustomed to (for the note: nowadays, don't use the same nor in forums that I participate nor on wikipedia any more). At the time I rather collected some posts, in hurry, of what I wrote/learnt/read in one forum already and copied them to compose an article. And just a reminder: English is a global language and we all know it and we always improve it a year in and year out by using it in practice more and more.

2. And one more thing, if you knew and watched Koke from Aris, you would know also that he visits some basketball matches of Aris BC whenever he has free time to do so and a couple of more stuffs about him would certainly make more sense to you too...

3. Do not paraphrase too often. Use quotations even more than you did it up there. The only thing you quoted correctly was that Marseille-Siena thing, and now I won't comment more on it.

Nobody reverted it back. It stayed how you left, only changed myself, who came this time with cool head and healthy mind to expand it and make it a bit more cheerful and "generous" and less monotonous by adding Koke's "football characteristics" and "personal life" to it.

Hope you like this one more and respect it more 'cause here is a fan who has watched (and known) Koke in Aris many many times... Cheers!

—Preceding KOKE REY's comment added by 80.65.173.19 (talk) 18:54, 21 August 2008 (UTC)