Talk:Begin the Beguine

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The inclusion of complete lyrics (as opposed to a small extract) of a copyrighted song is a form of copyright infringement. In this case the copyright is owned by the Cole Porter estate or its assignees. Unless there are objections, I propose to remove the lyrics from this article.Dermot 09:20, 15 July 2006 (UTC)Dermot[reply]

Sorry, Dermot, I beat you to it before I even read the talk page! User:Angr 15:01, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Begin the Beguine...major or minor song?

Non-musicians: Abstain. I am a pro music in general and jazz in particular composer/arranger/pianist/guitarist from Paraguay. It struck me that when I saw the film "De-Lovely" Sheryl Crow sang an arrangement of "Begin the Beguine" in the minor mode!!!. I did not like Edelmnan's arrangements nor orchestrations all throughout. Most of the pieces did not any good to great Porter songs but rather portrayed their "aging" quality. If the minor thing in "Begin..." was the arranger's idea I believe it was a rather doubtful one. However, if the original copywrite was in minor (I'm not sure), well, OK. The idea of including nowadays singers singing Porter's tunes is also doubtful. Even when Porter was not a jazz musician, his music has been fostered by jazzists all around the world, and most of their songs are actually best remembered as jazz singers renderings. Therefore, I don't buy Robbie Williams (??????) and Costello's (e.g) rendering of their songs. The film is boring and does not leave Porter at a top place, but rather shows his flows. The music is certainly not the best, at a film portraying one of the greatest song writers of the 20th Century. 200.108.137.234 17:00, 23 December 2006 (UTC) Carlos Schvartzman[reply]

This page is not for a review of the musical movie written about Cole Porter. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. As far as abstaining for non-musicians, your credentials don't dictate who responds to you. As for your points, professionals write and remix music all the time. It's not going to sound the same as it was for Cole Porter, as they will always be interpretations of his music. As for who is singing his songs in the movie, consider that the songs would have originally been sung by aspiring or famous singers/actors of the day, so using known singers for the movie audience makes sense to me.--216.16.239.66 18:34, 24 January 2007 (UTC)WPaulB[reply]

This is for the person who said "This page is not for a review of the musical movie written about Cole Porter. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia" Guess what? It's a discussion page. He can talk about what he wants. It's not like he wrote what he did in the main article. I believe he wanted to DISCUSS this being a major or minor song. So don't tell someone what they can and cannot discuss on a discussion page.--72.154.223.249 (talk) 02:32, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the user of the IP 72.154.223.249. Paul' that very arrogent and very rude attitude of yours to exlude non-musically enclined people this is an open area of discussion. Please be respectful to other users when discussing your facts / opnionions / or suggestions. "Non musicians obstain"? Personally Paul I would read as a very rude statement from you and you should apologize. In the millenia to come many people ARE going to dicusss their thoughts and opinions in regards to any discussion of any peace of music. As an amature musician is not right to exlude people because they are not "musicians" or musically inclined. However it is very true that many compositions will be arranged no matter the genre, style or background of the arranger, musician, or so on, key no matter the composer/arranger etc for time to come yet the main core of the composition will always remain.

The reference to "this page" was obviously to the main Wiki entry page.75.72.46.100 (talk) 03:18, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV issues

The article as it stood was rather POV, so I've toned all of that way down. Some citations need to be added to back up a few of the facts, but that's outside my expertise. Cheers, Neale Neale Monks 17:16, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

1943 Deanna Durbin version

Probably the most accomplished renditions of Begin the Beguine was delivered by that great female singer, Deanna Durbin, in film. Quite disappointed that this is not reflected in the original Wikipedia article. Someone appears to have recently posted that version on You Tube. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.105.4.211 (talk) 02:14, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Other versions

A lot of other versions of the song can be found by typing the song title under www.jazz-on-line.com/pageinterrogation.php Two other versions (both from the 40s) that should probably be mentioned are those of Art Tatum and Eddie Heywood. The Heywood arrangement in particular was very popular in its time, and Cole Porter is supposed to have said to Heywood that he (Porter) wished he had arranged it that way himself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.125.60.123 (talk) 09:10, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]