Talk:Muhammad Ali

Reach

What is mean with Reach 2 M ? Was his reach 2 metres?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.80.236.182 (talk) 14:21, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Inoki

Although I'm pleased with much of the recent cleanup of this article (10-11 thru 10-12), I feel that at least some mention of the Inoki exhibition should have been retained. It received a lot of media attention in Japan, of course, but it also received a fair amount of publicity in the United States [and the UK, too (albeit not always complementary(!)) - Autochthony Writes; Feb 2009) when it occurred. The removed text follows:

Ali's next match after Dunn was a June 25 exhibition against the Japanese wrestler Antonio Inoki. Although widely perceived as a publicity stunt, the match would have a long-term detrimental affect on Ali's mobility. Inoki spent much of the fight on the ground trying to damage Ali’s legs, while Ali spent most of the fight dodging the kicks or staying on the ropes. At the end of 15 rounds, the bout was called a draw. Ali's legs, however, were bleeding, leading to an infection. He suffered two blood clots in his legs as well.

Is there any support for re-integrating at least some of this information back into the article?

— Myasuda (talk) 01:07, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

A Brit who laughed at, - and enjoyed - the UK coverage of that event says "Hell, yeah!". It should be in! Autochthony Writes; Feb 2009.

Who is Fred Stoner?

At the beginning of the article there is a mention of Ali's other trainer at junior level, but no reference. Fred Stoner is mentioned on numerous occasions in Ali's autobiography 'The Greatest, My Own Story.' The first time is on page 55, where Ali describes encountering a boxer from Stoner's gym and is beaten. He then visits Stoner's gym where he notices that 'the boys from Stoner's gym were better boxer's than those at Martin's.' (page 55 'The Greatest, My Own Story.')

Lukeyo784 (talk) 19:21, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Suggested alterations

The following text "However, Ali won a more important victory on June 28, 1971, when the Supreme Court reversed his conviction for refusing induction by unanimous decision in Clay v. United States." which can be found under the title The Fight of the Century should be edited and placed at the end of Vietnam War.

The following text "In 1964, Ali failed the U.S. Armed Forces qualifying test because his writing and spelling skills were sub-par. However, in early 1966, the tests were revised and Ali was reclassified as 1A. This classification meant he was now eligible for the draft and induction into the U.S. Army. This was especially important because the United States was engaged in the Vietnam War. When notified of this status, he declared that he would refuse to serve in the United States Army and publicly considered himself a conscientious objector. Ali stated that "War is against the teachings of the Holy Qur'an. I'm not trying to dodge the draft. We are not supposed to take part in no wars unless declared by Allah or The Messenger. We don't take part in Christian wars or wars of any unbelievers." Ali also famously said in 1966: "I ain't got no quarrel with them Viet Cong ... They never called me nigger."[7][8]" can be found, literally the same, under Religion and Vietnam War. There is only one sentence between those two identical texts. --Afopow (talk) 12:57, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

correction

Stance Orthodox I guess that Stance Islam,..... ~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Donquimico (talk • contribs) 23:39, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

"recent photo"

Page is locked; I can't edit. There's a photo with a caption "... recent photo ..." Wikipedia standards indicate that there should be a date (a year would suffice) instead of the more vague "recent". "A 2004 photo of Ali", for instance, would be an improvement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.68.134.1 (talk) 20:11, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Minor point - but I do agree. Autochthony Writes; Feb 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.223.75 (talk) 22:22, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Muhammad Ali's fight to beat Shane Buckley

As a young boy muhhamad ali trained his butt off to beat Shane buckley of oceanside new york. He was a fourteen year old who was THE MAN —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.117.244.62 (talk) 00:36, 30 January 2009 (UTC) People say he was gay. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.36.135.186 (talk) 17:36, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

locked

would someone unlock this page so i can edit it. I'm a boxing historian and the boxer i know the most about is Ali. i'm not autoconfirmed yet though.--Krasilschic (talk) 20:45, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Trimming bio section

The GA review states that the bio section needs trimming. What content, and how, can it be trimmed to improve the article and avoid vandalism? The legacy section also needs to be expanded.

It would really help if you (Rumble74) would quit editing the article. --DreamsAreMadeOf (talk) 05:00, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

I would ask the reviewer Jaranda (talk · contribs · logs) to make a more specific recommendation regarding trimming the article. This GA review took place more than a year and a half ago (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Muhammad_Ali/Archive_3#Failed_GA), and some of the comments made at that time may no longer be pertinent. Myasuda (talk) 03:04, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

He is Irish American and this is stated on his mothers page, can someone put this up please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.151.75.155 (talk) 16:17, 22 May 2009 (UTC) ==Ali vs Liston hello everybody The fight between Ali and Liston went 6 full rounds befor it was stopped befor the 7th round ever started but on the talk page it is listed as having gone 7 rounds.I was unable to get into the article but thought someone might change it thank you comment by Frosty87

Neutrality dispute

Can anyone explain why the article is tagged 'neutrality is disputed' (January 2009)? I can't see any discusison of it here. thanks. --hippo43 (talk) 01:22, 28 March 2009 (UTC)