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888.chan

mention of 888chan shou;d be made, as it is a similar in format and content to 4chan and it is the organiser of project chantology. 888chan contains most of the memes and the meme anonymouse is far more used in ti than 4chan,

New posts go to the bottom. There are a TON of other chans- 4chan is the one that's been in the news. --King Öomie 14:27, 22 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
888chan has very little to do with 4chan. It was an offshoot of WWP more than anything. No mention is needed. Throwaway85 (talk) 00:13, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
888 has nothing to do with 4chan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.103.14.178 (talk) 20:21, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Aside from the fact that it's frequently referred to as "the mother chan". 888channers are usually current or former 4channers. Throwaway85 (talk) 04:00, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Death Hoaxes

I removed this because it's significance is highly dubious. Posting phony death hoaxes on /b/ is an ongoing thing, and has probably been done for any number of high profile celebrities. The ones that actually take off, though, like Kanye and Jeff Goldblum, don't gain any more steam from /b/ as they do somewhere else. The Kanye hoax wasn't just on 4chan, but it was commented on heavilly there (leading some to believe that "Oh, it's 4chan, they must have started it.") It's usually the product of a group of people that simultaniously work together to spread the info, citing each other as proof, where the hivemind takes over from there.

If the death hoaxes were huge enough to actually be reported by today's ridiculous media without fact-checking (as they often do not do), then that would be worth adding to the celebrity-in-question's page, rather than trying to pin it to a specific source (which is 100% uncitable). Gpia7r (talk) 20:41, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

allegations of racism by 4chan

After some googling I've found many respectable sources that provide a point of view about 4chan as a website that permits racist commentary and hate speech, but instead, not enough reference to this topic is found in the curent revision of the article, there are many sources out there confirming this, besides KTTV's report. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.230.211.251 (talk) 16:09, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Taken from the Wikipedia article on Racism: "Racism is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race". So, racism is defined as what may or may not be seen as offensive from one race to another. Since 4Chan's posting format is default Anonymous posting, there is really no way to determine if the individuals making said racist remarks are indeed of a different race, or simply taking an example, an (Insert Race of Choice) individual poking fun at themselves/others of their race. Furthermore, nothing posted on 4chan is intended to be taken at face value. "The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact." -Random imageboard header disclaimer. In summary, this really isn't the place for soapbox race-baiting, and you'll have one heck of an uphill battle proving anything more than dark humor, which the article already covers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.44.212.4 (talk) 22:29, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Going to have to agree with the anon editor on this one. There have been attempts to sensationalize racist material on 4chan, notably Fox News but these attempts are just that, attempts to sensationalize a non-issue. Voiceofreason01 (talk) 19:25, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There's no such thing as a non-issue with Fox, I think. EVERYTHING is destroying 'Murrica. --King Öomie 19:27, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
how do you know 4chan posters don't mean it when they input racist humor? yes, the whole imageboard protects on the facade of a work of fiction, but is obvious they acknowledge all racist remarks as true irl. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.230.211.72 (talk) 00:50, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
not relevent, there is racist humor on 4chan, particularly /b/, but the tone of /b/ is and always has promoted the posting of shocking and/or offensive material. Find me a reliable, secondary source discussing racism on 4chan and names 4chan by name, and we can discuss adding it into the article. But an op-ed or scare piece by fox news isn't going to cut it. Voiceofreason01 (talk) 16:52, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Even though sources such as fox news have run articles, their "journalism" was roundly laughed at by the internet as a whole. Nobody who visits 4chan, particularly /b/, should take seriously anything that is said there. I would have to question the reliability of any source that wasn't able to figure that out. Throwaway85 (talk) 05:59, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SomethingAwful.com advertising

Why is the line about Moot being a former member of "SomethingAwful.com" included in the article? The fact is trivia, at best, and trivia is to be avoided. I'm sure it was added by someone trying to promote the site, and it should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.163.22.236 (talk) 08:52, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I can't prove that it isn't trivia but in my opinion it is relevent to showing where the community came from. I really doubt it is a plug for somethingawful. please WP:AGF. Voiceofreason01 (talk) 22:44, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The moderators of 4chan were always familiar with SomethingAwful-style humour, so I'm guessing most of them were members at some point. [1] Ottre 18:24, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
The original 4chan moderators were all permabanned users from the Something Awful anime forum, myself included. But I am not aware that any media source has recorded this information. Shii (tock) 19:45, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure how reliable it is, but I found this. Also, moot says so on the faq, so yeah... Throwaway85 (talk) 06:16, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How did Jarrad Willis die?

Seems odd that this is missing. I've been searching for the answer but have yet to yield anything. Is there any information on the cause of death? Krushia (talk) 22:33, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

He became an hero. Meowy 17:05, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

^ lulz —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.169.234.225 (talk) 22:41, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Another school shooting threat

On November 24, 2009 at 13:46 Estonian time, a 18-year old Estonian boy posted a threat on 4chan to carry on a school shooting in the Commercial High-School of Tartu (et:Tartu Kommertsgümnaasium), a high school in Tartu, Estonia. The boy was arrested on the following day. [2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9]

On November 25 Tartu Kommertsgümnaasium was closed to students as a safety precaution because the boy who posted the threat was not yet caught. On the same day two other high-schools in Tartu received bomb threats[10][11]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.190.29.65 (talk) 19:23, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

English sources, please? I can't really comment on it more without even being able to read the articles, and translators aren't reliable enough for this.--Human.v2.0 (talk) 00:33, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
http://balticreports.com/?p=5367

Chanology

Can anyone find a reliable source that correctly attributes chanology as starting at 711chan and migrating to 4chan, rather than the other way around as the article currently implies? I haven't had much luck with google. Throwaway85 (talk) 06:25, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pedobear?

I'm not trolling but there's only two mentions of Pedobear on WP and no proper explanation. It might be a popular meme but it passed me by. --Alastair Rae (talk) 16:41, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You'd have to find a reliable source saying that Pedobear started at 4chan if you wanted to include it in the article. Throwaway85 (talk) 00:04, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I believe he was asking for an explanation, based on WP only having two mentions of the word itself and no details. As an unsourced (and likely not entirely uninformed) response: Pedobear refers to an image of a "strutting" bear that is used on the internet in various linkages to pedophilia or child pornography. This can be a direct link where it is used in matters containing child pornography, in situations where the topic is however many steps removed, or in an ironic sense. It evokes the image of a big creepy walking teddybear who likes children a little too much. This is probably more explanation than is (a) relevant (b) wise to have tainting an edit to WP under my username, but it's also a few hairs more polite than saying "google it", which i recommend you do (carefully). --Human.v2.0 (talk) 02:01, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, thanks for describing Pedobear in the least funny way possible. Alastair: Just look it up on ED. Throwaway85 (talk) 03:28, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Says the person who misinterpreted the original question entirely and instead used the phrase "reliable sources". :P --Human.v2.0 (talk) 05:25, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
if there's anything a discussion of 4chan demands, it's reliable sources. ;) Throwaway85 (talk) 09:10, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Pedobear started as 'Safety Bear' on 2ch, anyway. --moof (talk) 21:16, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wired article about project chanolgy and /b/

here. I'm surprised nobody had added anything from this yet, seeing as it came out a couple months ago, and because it has a lot about 4chan and project chanology. estemshorn (talk|contrib) 23:10, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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