Talk:Luís Figo
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In November 2004, Figo was revealed alongside other Real Madrid teammates such as Raul, to be sympathisers of the Ultras Surs, ..... Pictures of Figo and Raul smiling for the camera while holding a scarf and flag of the Ultras Surs was printed in a Sunday newspaper.
Has anybody actually seen this photo - or the event? I am not willig to believe it!
- I've seen the photo, and it's pretty much true, as you can confirm by searching "Figo Ultras Sur" on a search engine. However, the article overdoes in detail about the group, so I'll move some of the stuff here in case someone makes an article about them. \ wolfenSilva /
Ultras Sur crop
I've removed a few lines from the article about the Ultras Sur, in case anyone wants to create an article about them. I'll add a section of "notable Ultra groups" in Ultras with some of europes' leading groups. There's no point on having more on them than Figo on his own article.
-- a rate-hate movement which shares its axe emblem with the international Hammerskin white supremacist movement. The Ultras Surs are feared even among the most extreme elements of Europe's soccer hooligans.
The white supremacist group apparently has strong ties to the Real Madrid FC. Until very recently the Ultras had their own office near gate 42 of the Bernabeu in which they kept pamphlets, drums, megaphones and flags bearing General Franco's shield and other neo-Nazi symbols.
Until the election of Florentino Perez in 2000, generations of Real's presidents had courted the hooligans. In 1997 former president Ramon Mendoza said: "If I was 20 now, I would be an Ultras Surs."
And the predecessor to Perez, Lorenzo Sanz, used the racists to try to strong-arm his way to victory in 2000. The amazing insight into Real's hardcore fans was exposed in a 2003 book by Spanish journalist Antonio Salas who infiltrated them. --
\ wolfenSilva / 16:24, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I am not convinced. The source of the article (and photo) seems to be a british tabloid - it might as well be a "meta-battle".
Journalists only trust informations confirmed by at least two independend sources...
Luis Figo is not a racist, this is a poor attempt at trying to make him be one
- fine, let me put this way: One thing is a player with ostensively racist/fascistic behaviour (see Paolo Di Canio, for instance). Other is a player that gave an interview and posed with a scarfe from an Ultra/fan group with the same known tendencies. I believe the interview and photos quoted in the newspaper piece are the same I've linked this week to the wiki article, from the 2000-2001 season. As a matter of fact, look at their interviews section, including players like Guti and Helguera, both have interviews and working photos of the same players with scarves. Does this mean they are racists: no, those interviews do not include politics, neither does Figo's.
- Back to the point, the interview exists, the photos, although down in their website, also exist. What can, and must be argued is the forced meaning the newspaper gave those photos, publishing them after the racist incidents, not the existance of them. I'm going to clarify that in the article, and remove the POV tag, and hopefully before being reinserted, the editor comments that here. wS 22:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)