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Kludge and Melodic.net

Kludge was a popular American webzine. Its writers are professional critics including Chris Green [1]. Kludge is also a magazine so it is notable. Melodic.net is founded by a professional critic (Pär Winberg)[2] and it is the Europe's leading webzine for modern rock [3] (These sources are reliable and come from The Music Factory). These webzines meet the criteria at WP:WEB, they are notable and I explained why. I don't understand the deletion. They are very similar to Pitchfork Media.--Strawberry Slugs (talk) 11:10, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Who the founder of something is has no effect on its notability, nor does popularity. Only substantial reliable source coverage impacts notability. The "musicfactory.se" that you sent me to does not even mention the website, let alone cover it in detail. If you have any sources that are reliable and cover in depth the website, I'll be happy to help you evaluate them. If you do not, the sites are not appropriate article subjects at all, and cannot be until and unless such sources are written. Seraphimblade Talk to me 15:32, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This mention the website and its founder. And the source clearly states that Melodic.net is the Europe's leading webzine for modern rock.--Strawberry Slugs (talk) 21:38, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Seraphimblade, could you re-review the article Kludge (magazine) since Strawberry Slugs has decided to reinstate it. Thanks. L Kensington (talk • contribs) 21:53, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As for Kludge Magazine, Melodic.net is used as source by Billboard, PureVolume, Rivel Records, Code (band), Harem Scarem, AbsolutePunk, BizShark [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9]. So the article meet WP:NME. Melodic.net is also the Europe's leading webzine for modern rock and it is founded by Pär Winberg which has worked with EMI, A&R, The Real Group, Robert Wells (composer) among others [10]. I think that Melodic.net is notable to have an article, or am I wrong?--Strawberry Slugs (talk) 00:16, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

When did Kludge become a "magazine" rather than a webzine? Which is it?
Regardless, to reply to both above: To establish notability, you need substantial sources about the article subject, not notability subguidelines (which are just guides as to when sources are likely to exist, passing a subguideline is not a replacement for substantive sources!), not "Someone else mentioned it or said it was leading!" You need in-depth sources about the thing, not that drop its name or praise it briefly. If those do not exist, yes, you are wrong, and we should not have an article. If they do, we should have an article. I don't see any used that meet the criteria, so unless better exist, we shouldn't. Do better, more substantive sources exist, or not? (I don't speak Swedish, so had to use Google's translation of your Swedish source, but the URL "melodic.net" does not even appear within the article. If they're talking in depth about the creator, that may contribute to the notability of the creator, but unless it goes into depth about his creation, not for it.) Regardless, however, the initial speedy on Kludge was declined, so it would need to go to AfD (as presumably a prod would be disputed). I'll hold off nominating it for now, until I get an answer on the source question, but of course anyone else may do so. Seraphimblade Talk to me 20:50, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
On the article appears "Europe's leading site for modern rock - Melodic THE NET (the original states THE MELODIC NET) with about 4000 visitors per day". However, this states "Leading European Modern Rock E-zine www.melodic.net".--Strawberry Slugs (talk) 10:47, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I-Jet Media

I ask you to restore this article. We need some more time to finalize the article and to make authors of other Wikipedia put a link to this article. Russian Wikipedia has approved publication of this article because of its real significance I-Jet Media Rero26 (talk) 06:09, 23 August 2010 (UTC) ReRo26[reply]

You need to not write about subjects you're affiliated with. If you have appropriate sources for the article, I'll take a look at them, and help you write it if necessary, but from your use of the term "we", you clearly have a conflict of interest and should not be writing or editing the article. Please also note that the Russian Wikipedia has different policies, practices, and enforcement levels than we do, so something being appropriate there does not mean it would be here. Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:11, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We means my friend and I who likes writing various articles on various subjects. Sources for the article are the following:

Russian sources:

Being prominent mass media and blogs, they all include all the information I put in the article. If this is not enought, could you please help write it as you mentioned? Rero26 (talk) 09:06, 23 August 2010 (UTC) Rero26[reply]

Blogs are generally not reliable sources. The two English sources I checked are about "Happy Farmer", and only mention I-Jet in passing. Passing or trivial mentions do not show notability, only substantive coverage does. I can try translating the Russian sources (I do not speak Russian), but are any of them more in depth about I-Jet rather than something it produced? It is entirely possible for a product to be notable but its producer not to be, since notability is not inherited. Seraphimblade Talk to me 23:53, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Al Hussein Irbid

Hello. I notice you deleted this article under A7, and I wanted to let you know it has been re-created. First, I disagree with the speedy deletion (the article indicated it was about a football club playing in Jordan's highlest tier of football). Second, I wanted to ask that if you plan to request deletion again (I've added a reference now which makes the notability claim more concrete), please take it to AfD. Best regards. Jogurney (talk) 14:05, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To my knowledge, the highest tier of soccer is the World Cup. If I'm wrong on that, could you please explain? I don't know soccer very well, so it's entirely possible there's something I don't know about. Regardless, however, all articles require reliable sources, and this one just cites a directory. Also, please remember to discuss deleted articles before recreating them. Seraphimblade Talk to me 17:50, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Seraphimblade, you are correct that the Wolrd Cup is the highest level of national team competition in football. However, club football is organized in essentially every country in the world and Jordan is no exception. This club plays in highest level of competition in Jordan and has even participated in a continential competition (2005 AFC Cup) so it is one of the most notable football clubs from the country (and a relatively important club in Asia). I added a cite to RSSSF, which is a reliable source (I can't recall where it was discussed right now), and it verifies the club's participation in the 2005 AFC Cup. Finally, if you read the article history, you'll notice that I didn't re-create the article, and actually notified the deletor (you) of its re-creation. In any case, I still disagree with your A7 deletion of the original article, and would hope you would seek discussion before making similar deletions in the future. Best regards. Jogurney (talk) 21:10, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think that does make at least a credible assertion of notability, so I've restored the deleted edits. Seraphimblade Talk to me 23:49, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 23 August 2010

Wikipedia:Proposed deletion process for unsourced articles

I think it might be time to revive this idea in respect to new articles, given the increasing number of unreferenced new articles and the relative success of the BLP prod experiment, and incorporating ideas from that. Sparked by recent thread at ANI about backlogs. 69.181.249.92 (talk) 08:50, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How would you propose to do so, without encountering the objections encountered the last time around? Seraphimblade Talk to me 04:16, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I would start off by pointing out the relative success of the PRODBLP experiment (it has been considered a success, no?), toss in the statistics of articles newly tagged as unreferenced (averaging about 3300 a month per the sidebar at Category:Articles lacking sources), tweaking the wording of the old proposal to bring it more into line with the blp prod policy, and crafting it to apply only to newly created articles, also a mirror of the BLP tactic. It won't directly reduce the backlog, but it will help to keep it from growing at it's current rate. Basically, any new article, no matter how notable the topic, would be subject to deletion if no sources are provided within a week or so.
I've only skimmed the old proposal so I'm not sure how closely my suggestions equates to what's there, but I hope that times have changed enough in the last three years that it will get a better hearing. You probably have a better idea of where to launch such a discussion than I do. Village pump, perhaps? (Not one of the pages I visit with any frequency, my last viewing being months ago, but I'd chime in on this one. Let me know.) 69.181.249.92 (talk) 04:33, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jimmie Johnson/Sprint Cup Races

It can now be deleted. --Nascar1996 01:46, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Diane Simmons/Harrow Sports

You deleted this page claiming conflict of interest. I do not work for Harrow Sports and I wasn't advertising the company. I was merely noting who they are and that they are a major player in the sports industry - especially the squash sports world, and I provided references. I took my cue on how to write the article from a couple of their competitors - Warrior Lacrosse and STX and I provided more references than either of them. They just link back to their own website. Therefore I respectfully ask you to restore the page. Dssimmons (talk) 01:54, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That article cannot be restored, as it is not at all neutral, which is an absolute requirement. We also require that all articles be fully supported by reliable sources not affiliated with the subject, to demonstrate notability. If you can write such an article, go ahead, but it may in no way promote the subject. If it looks like an ad or brochure, it will be deleted again. Seraphimblade Talk to me 03:33, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am happy to rewrite it but please explain to me how it is any different from the Warrior Lacrosse and STX pages? They don't have any links except to their own websites? Dssimmons (talk) 11:14, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The existence of other articles in poor condition is not a justification for any others. It may be that those articles need to be deleted as well. Since you didn't provide a link to them, I'm not going to go search them. To see how to properly write articles, take a look at our notability guidelines, first. If the company does not have such sourcing available, you'll need to find something else to write about. If it does, please also take a look at the neutrality requirements. An article may not promote or advertise for anyone or anything, it must be strictly neutral. Seraphimblade Talk to me 22:25, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For what it's worth, their articles are here - Warrior_Lacrosse and [stx]. I felt like I was following the guidelines to a T but I'll try again. Dssimmons (talk) 16:08, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You were right, those were pretty bad articles. One had nothing at all worth salvaging, one very little. Articles have to be neutral in tone. If your article looks like something the company's marketing department would be glad to see, you need to rewrite it. Seraphimblade Talk to me 16:22, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ashley Bell

Could you userfy this to me for a short time? You deleted it and I had it watch listed but I don't recall why. Hobit (talk) 02:34, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The full text of the article I deleted was only "Ashley Bell", so I don't think userfication of that one would do you much good. There was an older version that was deleted as spam (and quite correctly so), but if you want to work on that version, I'd be happy to userfy it for you. Seraphimblade Talk to me 03:35, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That would be great. I expect I'll be coming back to ask for it to be deleted again, but it seems odd this was on my watch list and I'd like to figure out why. I must have thought it had some value at some point (or maybe I was making sure no one recreated it?) Need notes on the watch list feature... Thanks in any case. Hobit (talk) 03:38, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've userfied it to User:Hobit/Ashley Bell. To avoid moving a page that might get deleted again, I just copied it and put the edit history on the corresponding talk page. If you actually intend to restore it to mainspace, please let me know, and I can do the appropriate history merge. It looks like you requested the first speedy though, so I'm not sure if you intend to or if you just watched it after you put the speedy tag on. Seraphimblade Talk to me 03:47, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Binksternet block

Greetings. I'm not entirely as familiar with wiki as others are but me and some others have had massive issues with binksternet and would like you to either extend the block he has or keep a close eye on him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Toddst1#User:Binksternet

I as well as others have been the victims of his ego and abuse of power and we would appreciate your ability to put and end to it. thank you.123.243.203.94 (talk) 10:18, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As Toddst1 indicated, Binksternet is already blocked. By all means we will help if problems continue to occur after the block expires, but our hope is of course that problems will stop after it. I'm not going to extend the block just on principle. If there is any additional misconduct which occurs after the block expires, however, don't hesitate to ask for help. Seraphimblade Talk to me 00:57, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anthony Scaramucci

Hi - I am new to Wikipedia (creating articles, I view others all the time). I had a very difficult time creating the above article due to a very confusing set-up, to only find that inputting a biography, that is truly representational of the person, was deleted for reasons I don't understand. Scaramucci is in the world of business, very well known and only becoming more so as he becomes more of a public figure through his media (publishing, broadcasting and film endeavors). I've seen very similar bios over the years and would really appreciate your help in recreating this in a format that is suitable for Wikipedia. I look forward to your response, and if you're unable to assist, I'd appreciate your letting me know who to reach out to for assistance. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ishtar123 (talk • contribs) 07:03, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That article was deleted because it read like an advertisement or puff piece. Articles may not promote their subject, and we do not allow hagiographies. If this person has been substantially written about by several reliable sources which are not affiliated with him in any way, he may be an appropriate subject for an article. If you can point me to such sources, I can evaluate them and help write it if they're acceptable. If such sources do not exist, he would not be an appropriate subject for an article at this time. Seraphimblade Talk to me 18:26, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anon blocks

I completely concur with your recent use of a soft block on the IP sock that posted on your page; but I noticed that the instructions for {{anonblock}} say not to subst. Maybe we should change the template to use references to pages that have the relevant information rather than links to e-mail addresses and forms that may change as there are performance disadvantages to transcluding. --Doug.(talk • contribs) 23:04, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you've got a bad idea there. I'll admit I haven't looked at the instructions for {{anonblock}} in a while, it was my understanding that all user talk warning/block messages were subst'd for that very reason. Do you think a link to WP:APPEAL would be an acceptable substitute? Seraphimblade Talk to me 23:07, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That would probably be the best choice, though that's a mess now that I look at it; there is no obvious link to e-mail the unblock list. Seems like we need a page that just says:
  • 1. Contact the blocking admin, if they don't respond
  • 2. E-mail the unblock list here or submit a form to the list by clicking here, if you think you've been treated unfairly by everybody
  • 3. File a Request for Arbitration
For further details see WP:APPEAL
What do you think?--Doug.(talk • contribs) 23:27, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yow, you're certainly right about APPEAL, I haven't looked at that in a while either. I think a simple subpage could be done easily enough though, and since the template would point to that, it wouldn't matter if the template were subst'ed. I do think the advice of "contact the blocking admin" might be of limited usefulness for something specific to anon blocks, though, since anons can't enable email. We could recommend that the anon attempt posting on their talk page, since I think in practice most admins watchlist the talk page when they block a user, and if that fails or receives no response include instructions on how to use {{unblock}}, contact unblock-en-l, and the like. I'm not even sure we need a full project-space page for that, a subpage of the template might work just fine. I might knock together a draft here if I have time tonight. Seraphimblade Talk to me 23:36, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds great. I agree that "contact the blocking admin" might not be useful for anons, I was just listing the standard list of course, and pretty hastily at that. Thanks for working it, I'm only on for short spurts right now but I'll try to pitch in.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 05:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Andrés Cabrero

Why did you delete the biographical entry for Andrés Cabrero? He is a professional soccer player with years of experience playing for professional teams, and for the Puerto Rican national team. If his entry read like a "blatant advertisement" as you said, you could have at least had the common courtesy to inform people of your intent to delete it, to give people a chance to improve it to the correct standard, instead of just summarily obliterating the thing. Please restore it, and I will make the necessary changes to the page to make it Wiki-appropriate. --JonBroxton (talk) 00:40, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have reliable sources that you can use to appropriately improve the article? If this is the case, I would be happy to do so. The article was a puff/fan piece, however, and that is never acceptable. Seraphimblade Talk to me 01:04, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Can you restore it to your sandbox and let me take a look at it? I can have a go at finding sources from there. --JonBroxton (talk) 01:10, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've userfied this for you to User:JonBroxton/Andrés Cabrero. If you do intend to move it back to mainspace, please let me know, since it will need to be history merged. Seraphimblade Talk to me 03:33, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. It looks like it just needs a bit of basic cleanup and re-wording for it to become a standard soccer article, so I'll see what I can do with it. --JonBroxton (talk) 04:10, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 30 August 2010

Rishikeshan: Public Domain

Making Wikipedia Public Domain Will not affect Wikipedia. Please make Wikipedia Public domain. Public Domain is Helpful to all. I think wikipedians are good-hearted and not selfish. Wikipedians are not Stall-mans to behave rude at licenses like the sucking GPL and LGPL. I don't even use GPL'd software. Please make Wikipedia under Non-Copy left license by accepting new content under a permissive license or public domain. What about making a modified BSD license with advertising clause?

Please help authors. Stop sucking stall-man-ish copy-left. Let's make community useful to all developers to make both open and proprietary things.

I don't want to do anything in fear of stupid selfish stallman-ish copy-left licences.

If this writing is bad, Please report me--This is what on my and some other peoples' mind.

Rishikeshan (talk) 06:02, 2 September 2010 (UTC)Rishikeshan[reply]

Abuse from a staff member

Greetings. I would like to report I have been having trouble with user Binksernet.

  1. I edited an article about the Wife acceptance factor in which he kept vandalising my edits. I discussed this and explained why it was called a wife acceptance factor.
  2. The user abused his privilages and incorrectly marked me for vandalism supposedly this was a mistake.
  3. violated a 3rr and engaged in MANY edit wars not just with me but other users
  4. I'm not familiar with wiki but enough is enough and I'm taking a stand against this thug. You can see he has a history of abuse and NEEDS to be stopped. Currently he is vandalising my edits on the wife acceptance factor page.
  5. has edited out criticisms so they have not been seen.

Interesting links can be found here: Incidents http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#Wife_acceptance_factor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#August_2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#Memorex http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#WP:AN.2FI_Discussion_Regarding_Your_Recent_Edits http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#rollback http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#Request_for_mediation_rejected http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive633#Behavior_of_Binksternet_towards_IP_user In this link you can see he has removed my contribution completely and thus deleted what I had to say.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive633#Behavior_of_Binksternet_towards_IP_user.

My user talk page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:123.243.203.94

Any help you can give to solve this situation would be appreciated. Also note I have tried to make peace with the user and concede to his overly PC views but he has not even compromised NOR apologised. The person needs to be stopped.

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