Talk:Dairy

Undergoing large copy edit CaseInPoint July 5, 2005 01:43 (UTC)

I've now created the dairy farming article as a stub. Topics related to the production of fluid milk should go there. Topics related to the processing of milk should remain here. 18.24.0.120 03:39, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)

No use crying over spilt milk

I would say that there is an inordinately large and potentially inaccurate section relating to the disposal of milk.

1) In all my life, I have never heard of waste that required digging a hole to get rid off. Although, potentially it has happened in other areas. My point is that it is not common.

I have added some points to this area, with references. Annak123 (talk) 03:00, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

2) The detail is out of keeping with the detail of the rest of the article. It would be like taking half of the article on curry, and talking about how difficult it is to get curry stains out of t shirts.

Hang on, i better check that isn't the case! TF

anti-milk movement!

is there an article somewhere in wikipedia on the sizeable antidairy movement? it seems like that should be mentioned here as well, and linked to.

I have tried to link and put mention of diseases related to consuming milk, for which there is substantial evidence to ie diabetes, heart disease (high cholesterol / Saturated fat), etc however it has been deleted. perhaps the dairy industry has insiders working to not 'spoil' the great milk image! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.222.166.105 (talk) 14:19, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, was noticing the lack of any information relating to health effects in humans, and was concerned as well. Other articles I've edited in the past relating to the meat industry have been quickly re-edited. I don't know about any kind of conspiracy by these industries to keep the public from knowing the facts by monitoring Wikipedia articles, but there are plenty of people online, acting individually, who want to keep others from accessing those facts.

But that said, yes, this article should include discussion of health effects with citations from credible sources that are not associated with the dairy industry.

   Well if so, it would only be fair to include the views of the "paleo diet" folks, 
   who believe that milkfat (and indeed animal fats IN GENERAL, with special bonus points 
   for being saturated), are the most ideal, and most
   evolutionarily/historically/archeologically  normal foodstuff, for homo sapiens.
   See, among several other good ones,

      www.paleonu.com
      www.zeroinginonhealth.com

   who do quote numerous clinical-nutrition studies in peer-reviewed journals

diseases of the milk industry

Removed diabetes after a check of Medline, this is a hypothesis with more data against it than for it. Other disease claims should be supported by verifable citations, otherwise NPOV violation. Thatcher131 21:08, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

"dairy food group"

I think there should be a NUTRITION section that isolates and explains the health benefits etcetera of dairy foods. I think that's a common use this article might be expected to fulfill for people who land on this article. For example, I ended up here because someone just suggested dairy foods are a good source of protein. I was hoping to confirm or refute his claim based on this article. If there's a different wikipedia article that includes this, it should be listed under "see also". The "protein" article and ones linked from it were not much help either. Seeing as the products produced by "dairies" are exclusively food, and seeing as the word "dairy" often refers to a food group rather than a facility, a nutrition section is in order.

I agree that this article needs a section on the health effects, but want to stress that it should be unbiased, and therefore include coverage of negative health effects. No citing studies funded by the dairy industry!

Diseases Error

Cowpox would not protect against chicken pox as one is an orthopox virus and the other is an alphaherpesvirus. The correct virus for which protection is conferred is smallpox, as mentioned in the abstract of this draft from the CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol9no11/02-0814.htm) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.57.121.12 (talk) 22:03, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

correction made 20091019. DocKrin (talk) 00:35, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

This article is way too long

This article needs to be split off into several different articles specializing in different aspects of dairy technology. The milking machine in particular can be a complete article in itself. I do not see why it is lumped into this huge article.

The waste handling is another section that could practically become its own article. It is quite shocking to discover that there is no article for barn cleaner on Wikipedia, and they've been in use for a good 50 years or so.

I will probably be splitting these article sections in the future. DMahalko (talk) 15:13, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree that the article needs splitting, as it is confusing farm-based and processing aspects of the wider dairy industry. As an example, the title of the article is dairy but it really refers to dairy farming. I suggest this article should focus on the farm-based aspects of dairy farming, and a new article consider the processing aspects of milk in various products. Happy to help splitting the article. Annak123 (talk) 03:08, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Question: Is human breast-milk considered "dairy"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.142.243.29 (talk) 17:01, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

No, human milk is not considered dairy. The general reason why is because dairy has historically related to milk that is used, mainly, for making milk-based products (aka dairy products). As breast milk is not intended for processing (even though it could be), it is not considered to be termed dairy. Annak123 (talk) 03:08, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

poop by sean

oh yeah in my mouth said scott to brandon you fail —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.121.167.17 (talk) 17:33, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

my mom said

poop dripping in my mouth eating a srotum