User talk:Charlesdrakew

DYK for George Wyndham, 3rd Earl of Egremont

The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

American bison

Hi Charles, I thought this change in the book title was unwarranted as well. It turns out that "Bison" was indeed correct. So I undid your revert. I do wish people would explain their edits though. Regards.  BC  _{talk to me} 23:17, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

an the indefinite article

Hi Charles

I see that you have been having a bit of a minor edit war over the indefinite article in Sussex, I have put the following on the discussion page. I hope that it clarifies things a bit?

We have been having a dispute whether it should be a historic county or an historic county.

An is used before nouns or adjective noun combinations beginning with a vowel sound and a is used before nouns and adjective noun combinations beginning with a consonant sound.

eg:

an hour and a half

Note that with most adjectives and nouns beginning with the letter h, the h is pronounced, making it a consonant sound. Where the h is silent as in honest and hour, :these words start with a vowel sound, thus requiring an rather than a before the adjective or noun:

The word historic takes the indefinite article a/an depending upon its pronunciation.

If pronounced is-storic then "an historic".

If pronounced his-storic then "a historic".

Both forms are correct, in which case we should stick with what the original editor wrote. ie: an historic county. In any case An historic is the more common form in British English.

Regards. Wilfridselsey (talk) 10:58, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for elucidating that. Old Moonraker also agrees with this. I was taught at school, a very long time ago, to use "an" before words such as hotel, but I expect that is outdated now. I suppose there was a time when h was not generally pronounced. Regards.--Charles (talk) 11:20, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

I think with examples like hour and hotel, the 'h' is very definitely silent, whereas with historic, the pronunciation can vary based on your regional accent so either form would be correct. Like you I had many an hour at school learning grammar and can still remember this particular lesson! Sad I know! Regards Wilfridselsey (talk) 11:48, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks re: Shoreham Redoubt

Charles - This is just to say thanks for the tip about "See also" links on this page. I will try to remember it!" --Kinnerton (talk) 20:50, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

It takes time to learn the ropes. I am still learning.--Charles (talk) 21:01, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Lists of bus routes

Hi there, I just wanted to say that I think your prods on the pages I created have no reason to be there. I have created several of them and everyone else has accepted them as a good idea or at least not as something that is not for Wikipedia. If you think you still have a better argument, please reply on my talk page. Thank you 86.134.103.168 (talk) 19:18, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

If everyone else had accepted them as a good idea they would not get deleted. I expect there are other websites that would accept lists of trivial or unsourced information on buses that is not needed in a world encyclopedia. If not then the wiki software is free and you could make your own transport wiki.--Charles (talk) 20:41, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

I need mentoring

Hi Charles,

I need a mentor to work in wiki. My talk page will show I am new to wiki and came into editing because I saw a totally biased article in my area of expertise - hinduism, vaishnavism. I was advised by one administrator to go to adopting area.

I have a decent subject matter expertise in the area in which there is a huge NPOV issue (Iyengar). In a related article there has been a huge vandalism (Thengalai _ on 4th Jan 2011 this editor has virtually wiped out a whole set of contribution by others with a single sentence not relevant , which is not true) The editor who is doing this has enough wiki knowledge and using it to the advantage of putting his totally biased view in.

I want to have a fair approach and use the normal wiki route and have enough faith in wiki systems to eliminate such happenings. I need a mentor to guide me through the correct path in doing so. The alternative is a more winding self learning route.

Will you be my guru? I work at EST timing.

You can reply to me by email(ramanujamuni£gmail.com) or at my talk page.

Please let me know of your response.

Thanks. Ramanuja 22:48, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Not a sockpuppet

Hello again, you are suspecting my IP address to be a sockpuppet of Wilbysuffolk. This is not true. This is my address and I only use it if I forget to log in. We do know each other and are real life friends, who have TWO SEPERATE INDEPENDENT ACCOUNTS THAT THE OTHER HAS NOT GOT ACCESS TO, and share the same interests so we would be editing the same sort of pages, often at similar times. I have notified another administrator about this and included that you are likely to bully as I found previous acts of that. '''Adam mugliston''' (talk) 19:32, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

And also, I hope your happy with the deletion of List of bus routes in Lowestoft & Great Yarmouth. Just wanted to tell you that you wasted 5 days of my hardwork and valuable time. Thanks for that.

I was confused as to which of you was posting anonymously here. If you logged in that would not arise. As for Wilbysuffolk being identified as a sockpuppet of another troublesome editor, that was a surprise to me and I doubted it but assumed that the admin had done enough research to confirm this; it seems he had not and I am glad that has been cleared up.

I am happy that the list of bus routes has been deleted as this stuff is not notable or encyclopedic for this site. I hope you can find somewhere else to host it. Perhaps create your own wiki using the copyright-free software?--Charles (talk) 23:01, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Creating my own wiki? Who's going to find that? There have been several debates on whether these pages are notable, and everyone else (I think it's about 10 million people) consider it either notable or notable enough to stay. And as I mentioned you wasted my work and I would have to redo it. '''Adam mugliston''' (talk) 22:09, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the adoption

Hi Charles,

Thanks for the same.

The reasons of irrelevance is incorrect in as much as the information there is is relevant to the topic. Some of it may not have met the wiki standards of referencing. In that case it is better option to provide a rider saying citation is need rather than wiping out the contribution of so many editors over the years, because what has been stated there is a part of the generally accepted faith and not original research. This is more a example of disruptive editing.

The sole purpose of the editor has been to introduce a factually incorrect information, quoting sources in the most misleading way and deleting information relevant to proving that the Thengalai has been the mainstream faith with more than 71 of the 108 temples following that cult.

The Thenkalai vs Vadagalai has been such a bitter dispute especially only in the last two three hundred years, with vadagalais trying to take control of the administration ( documented in the various source book referred).

Also he has intentionally confused the two terms of Thenkalai Sampradhyaam also known as SriVaishnava Sampradhaya where the followers are worshipers of Vishnu ( such as Christians worship Christ and Buddisht follow Buddha), cutting across caste lines,who follow the worship in local language tamil and have slightly different interpretations on philosophy with that of Thenkalai Iyyengars who are Brahmins following Thengalai Sampradhya. The term Srivaishnavas is inclusive of brahmin. All srivaishnavas wear the caste mark called thiruman irrespective of they are brahmin or not, it is the sacred thread and other brahminical rituals that do so the distinction.Even the source books used by the renegade editor refer to other caste groups as Thengalai non brahmins (to distinguish them from the same thiruman wearing Thengalai Brahmins who wear the sacred thread.

If the Thengalais have been evolved by admixture of lower caste and brahmins how come they control most of the temples in Vaishnava sect, especially given control brahmins priests have had over temples and relgious instituions in South India.

I can prove it in the talk pages in detail point by point with references. The point is the article on Iyengar(ethnic section) and Thenkalai have been corrupted and needs to be fixed.

My humble opinion here is to roll it back to Jan4 2011 version, and work with providing references, remove the confusion between the Thenkalai Sampradhaya or Srivaishnava and Thenkalai Brahmins. The new additions can be added with appropriate weightage to the sources and Point of view. (Because if just one source takes an extreme view and provide unsubstantiated arguments it has to be made out to be a extreme view point).

I want to record this in the talk page of both Thenkalai and fix that first and then work towards fixing the anomalies in the ethnic section in Iyengars.

Please advice me if I am following the wiki guidelines by doing so. Ramanuja 01:34, 24 March 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramanujamuni (talk • contribs)

Yes. That sounds like an excellent plan. If reliable references are included the material will not be deleted, or if it is action will be taken against the deleter. Oh and please sign your talk page posts by clicking the pen-like symbol at the top of the edit window.--Charles (talk) 18:22, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Another adoption

Thanks for weighing in on notable karateka listings; I'm tying to de-orphan this article: Malcolm Phipps. Any other suggestions for links are welcome! Dreadstar ☥ 21:20, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

I have trained at the guy's dojo when Richard Amos was teaching there. I will see if I can find anywhere else to link to.--Charles (talk) 22:19, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Perfect, thanks! Dreadstar ☥ 22:25, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

You again

Hello, I was just wondering how come you always seem to find anything that I created that's nominated for deletion and support it. What did I do to you that you evidently hate me so much? Have you got an explanation? '''Adam mugliston''' (talk) 12:52, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

I do not hate you. Do not take it personally. It is just that the stuff you are writing does not meet Wikipedia standards. Bus routes are rarely notable and lists of such routes compiled from primary sources, e. g. bus timetables, are original research as well as being non-notable. Original research is not allowed here. I advise you to find something legitamate to do here, or else to do the lists elsewhere, because they will most likely be deleted sooner or later.--Charles (talk) 13:10, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

My very first page, has been fine for 1 year 10.5 months now. How do you think lists of bus routes in large cities e.g. London, New York were created if not by original research? If I do the lists anywhere else, who will find them? What do you mean by legitimate? Boring stuff, like dull articles? '''Adam mugliston''' (talk) 19:22, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Other stuff exists is never a good argument. Each article has to be notable in its own right. You need to read WP:NOTGUIDE and you need to stop adding time tables to transport articles as it is totally unencyclopedic and is just going too far.--Charles (talk) 17:32, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Don't think you realised, 'Timetable' is the name of the section. All it has in it is the frequencies and first and last buses. It does not state every single bus of every day - just in case that is the definition of timetable. Plus, I am not saying that it shoud stay for the reason that other similar articles exist, but that was an answer to your previous statement 'they will get deleted sooner or later'. That was an example of a seemingly succesful page, that has not been deleted 'sooner or later'. And also, what experience have you actually got with buses (apart from possibly commuting on them)? '''Adam mugliston''' (talk) 21:21, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Reverting maintenance tags

I have resolved the problem, as I have written in the edit summary, there already are vaild references (10 of them). I would also appreciate you actually reading and reply to my previous message, as I would quite like to know what experience you have in the area of public transport. '''Adam mugliston''' (talk) 19:15, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

You have not resolved the problem. None of the references are reliable secondary sources as required by Wikipedia. They are all primary sources. Whether I have any experience in public transport is not relevant to sourcing and notability.--Charles (talk) 19:44, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Maybe your experience with buses doesn't matter with notability, but it sure does matter when you want to make substantial edits to the page (e.g. deleting sections). By this I assume, you have no experience with public transport, so I would like to ask you to not edit the page substantially. And also, I would suggest you don't 'spy' on what I am doing or I will have to contact other administrators about you. 20:06, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm still expecting an answer to my previous message. Stop sending me messages with removing maintenance tags, neither of them should be there, you don't know the meaning of 'original research' and you're the one who should get blocked.'''Adam mugliston''' (talk) 07:20, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Deschner

See the article on Deschner if you want a source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.148.62.4 (talk) 13:22, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

No, the reference needed to be added to the article by you. As that is clearly not the reason Dawkins came to prominence your statement was factually incorrect anyway.--Charles (talk) 16:39, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

You seem to have taken my sarcastic parody seriously. I will have to stop using sarcasm, as it goes over your head. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.194.200 (talk) 17:12, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

You have been mentioned at Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts#User:Charlesdrakew

Adam mugliston (talk · contribs) has posted a complaint about you at Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts#User:Charlesdrakew. --Simple Bob ^{a.k.a. The Spaminator} (Talk) 08:04, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip-off Bob. I am not exactly quaking in my boots over it. I have been telling the kid he should take his bus routes elsewhere for a while now and Wikia sounds like a good alternative.--Charles (talk) 08:22, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Minor note: "Unexplained deletion" in Conservapedia

Just as a side note: The deletion of that sentence had been explicitly suggested on the talk page. I'm not questioning your revert itself (it's easy to justify at this time), but the revert comment struck me as a bit off (or overly strict if you apply it only to the lack of that user's edit comment) in my eyes. Just noting since I was feeling chatty, not trying to start some sort of debate or discussion. =P Have a nice day! --Sid 3050 (talk) 19:40, 21 April 2011 (UTC)