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Littleton Chorale

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Choir fails the GNG. Nolelover ^Talk^·^Contribs 23:55, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Does not appear to satisfy WP:ORG or the more specific guideline for musical groups, Wikipedia:Notability (music). Google news archive is not easy to find these days, but a search of it showed only a few "Upcoming local events" entries in local papers, trivial coverage which do not satisfy the notability requirements of Wikipedia. Edison (talk) 00:52, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. — frankie (talk) 01:13, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Colorado-related deletion discussions. — frankie (talk) 01:13, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Al Hart (talk) 02:28, 22 August 2011 (UTC) As a 40 year member of the metro Denver music scene, Littleton Chorals is indeed worthy of inclusion in the Wikipedia.[reply]

In an attempt to bolster a worthy category - Denver Area Choruses, and to make meaningful additions to other local categories - such as Music of Denver, Colorado, it is important that we provide depth for the long standing, established, musical organizations in Denver.

I am sorry that the reviewer did not find enough "upcoming local events" to satisfy himself/herself. But, of course, like most volunteer community choruses the Littleton Chorale only performs 10 performances of 5 major concerts per year, plus 5 additional supplemental concerts to bolster the local chorale scene. A quick Google Search shows several notices of recent concerts:

Western Welcome Week
Doc Mehl's appearance schedule
Soaring Voices Flying Fingers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Al Hart (talk • contribs) 01:21, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, its not the "upcoming local events" that would make this article suitable for Wikipedia, its a real claim to what we call notability. Here at Wikipedia, we have the "general notability guideline". I encourage you to read that, and decide for yourself if your choir passes that test. I realize this may seem like a harsh standard, but it is absolutely necessary for keeping the junk (not that this is junk by any means :) out of Wikipedia. Thank you for your time, Nolelover ^Talk^·^Contribs 01:43, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Al Hart (talk) 02:17, 22 August 2011 (UTC) "A company, corporation, organization, school, team, religion, group, product, or service is notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in secondary sources. Such sources must be reliable, and independent of the subject. A single independent source is almost never sufficient for demonstrating the notability of an organization."[reply]

Well maybe we'll hear some other opinions - particularly from people who have been instrumental in documenting and recording the other similar groups from all over the world. You and I could go back and forth without ever changing the others opinion an iota.

I would point out similar organizations already in Wikipedia - such as Idaho Gateway Chorus and Ars Nova Singers and you would respond that the inclusion of other similar groups is not sufficient to qualify the inclusion of a respected, long standing organization such as the Littleton Chorale.