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Tyler died outside the US?

The statement in the article that the official position is that the Confederacy was in rebellion and not a separate nation seems unnecessary and perhaps wrong. Article IV, Section 3, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution says:

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

Thus West Virginia's secession from Confederate Virginia and acceptance into the Union could not have been constitutional unless Virginia either was not a state at the time or Virginia gave consent. The Supreme Court case Virginia v. West Virginia decided in favor of West Virginia but without explicitly addressing this issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enon (talk • contribs) 14:52, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also included in the article is that Tyler was not ofically mourned in Washington. This was more a result of his being the only death of a Southern president during the rebellion. The notoriety is NOT that He was the only president not ofically mourned in washington but that He happended to die during a the civil war and was elaborately mourned in the South and correspondingly not in Washington who the confederates considered another country. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Weum2004 (talk • contribs) 02:54, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Living grandchildren

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/former-president-john-tyler-1790-1862-grandchildren-still-191230189.html

Two of his grandchildren are still alive, as men from the Tyler family had a tendency to have kids later in life. Apparently, the grandkids are Lyon Gardiner Tyler, Jr (b. 1924) and and Harrison Ruffin Tyley (b. 1928). Their father, President Tyler's son Lyon, who was born when his father was already 63, was in his 70s when he had them.--RM (Be my friend) 01:28, 26 January 2012 (UTC) [reply]

I posted that Recarving Rushmore (2009) ranked Tyler as the best president of all time in terms of peace, prosperity, and liberty, which is true, but I couldn't cite it right. One of you will have to fix it.--71.72.151.150 (talk) 06:19, 25 March 2012 (UTC) [reply]