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Dear DPL bot, Information about Author’s Certificate (AC) on page “Glossary of patent legal concepts” was mistaken. Really AC is a form for protection of inventions, it is not protects inventors. AC is alternative document to patent, the other words AC is Soviet State patent, which in protecting of patent rights of the state and inventor gives priority to the state. It means that Soviet State nationalizes (expropriation) finance rights of inventors.

Note in the conception of AC is given mistaken on page “Glossary of patent legal concepts” and moreover in the article “Integration of science and technology in CEMA, Issue 21 of Foreign economic reports. U.S. Dept. of Commerce, Bureau of the Census. 1983. p. 35 (footnote 84)” formulation of AC is not at all.

Re-address from article “Author’s Certificate” to the page “Glossary of patent legal conception” was done mistaken also. Thank you, Inventcreat (talk) 17:25, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for your message on my talk page regarding the entry Author’s certificate. I have replied on the talk page, here. --Edcolins (talk) 20:34, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

I've replied to you on my talk page, and I have also brought the issue of your shared account to WP:ANI#Shared account so it can be discussed by a larger community, you may wish to add your comments there--Jac16888 ^Talk 23:10, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Shared account

Hello! I just read on AN/I that you are using a shared account. I would strongly recommend you each create an account, and describe the relationship between the two accounts on both userpages. This will ensure you are in compliance with both our shared account and sockpuppetry/meatpuppetry policies.

I will not block the User:Inventcreat account at this time, but please understand I cannot guarantee that another administrator will not independently notice that it is not compliant with our shared account policy and block it. So I urge you to set up the separate accounts at your earliest convenience. Please let me know if you have any questions, and happy editing! 28bytes (talk) 05:29, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dear 28bytes, We do not have any shared account since we are a married couple. Why? (Please, see the Bible, Genesis 2:24 ESV) “Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.” We think that doing of two mirror accounts will bring transgress in the Wiki’s rules. -- Inventcreat (talk) 18:10, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abuse of editing privileges. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.

I hated to do this (being happily married to a fellow writer myself), but for copyright reasons (among others) we CANNOT permit shared accounts at any time. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:45, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Orange Mike, our contribution in Wiki project is a present to the Wiki by our common wish. Our co-activity in Wiki is Pair work. By oneself in Wiki we are readers only. -- Inventcreat (talk) 16:10, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

New accounts

I've modified the block so you're able to create new accounts for yourselves. Hope you're still interested in contributing, in spite of the rules-oriented approach we seem to take around here. --Floquenbeam (talk) 23:51, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Floquenbeam, separation of our account cannot bring difference in our pair work. We will work on one account anyway, since we do not work by oneself because of individual specialisation each of us. Moreover, for us it does not interest to keep our activity in the Wiki project by oneself. The second account will hopeless a virtual account and nobody will live there. -- Inventcreat (talk) 17:41, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

User:Inventcreat/Author’s Certificate

I'm very sorry, but I've had to blank this for copyright investigation. I understand that you assert that it was originally published in 1926, but this clearly some confusion, as it refers to events that took place in 1931. Moreover, the putative author of the work, I.A. Gringol'ts, was publishing on IP law at least in the 1960s, which makes the inclusion in the second series of Great Soviet Encyclopedia far more likely. IF the Great Soviet Encyclopedia released its content into public domain or compatibly licensed it, we could use it, but according to their website copyright on their content is fully reserved: [1]. Unless we are able to verify permission, I'm afraid we cannot use this material. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 11:23, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Moonriddengirl, Why you have not paid your attention on Variant 2, which still is in a work on? Inventcreat (talk) 18:21, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what it is you're asking. Can you please explain more completely? --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 18:23, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It is a question about blocking of the page “User:Inventcreat/Author’s Certificate” on 25 March 2012 by Moonriddengirl.

Two variants of the article were under working on the page. It had a grudge to both of them. The second variant still had been partly looked through on page “Glossary of patent legal concepts”. It had notefoot to the primary source in Russian language (e.g. Russia Patent Law of 1919,) and it would be difficult for control the information on trust in English Wiki. Therefore, on the page “User:Inventcreat /Author’s Certificate” priority to other variant of the article, with notefoot to the secondary source, namely, the Great Soviet Encyclopaedia by Macmillan Publishers in English language, was done.

Why do need to block the articles, which are still under working, without any discussion, when it is possible to take one variant of these two?

And else, I.A. Gringolt did not show any sources (from 1919 and 1926) in article “Author’s Certificate” GSE.

-- Inventcreat (talk) 10:42, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I see. Thank you for explaining. You are talking about the sentence at the bottom of the page. I have restored that portion now. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 11:59, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The formulation “Author’s Certificate” was first written into Law of the Russian Federation in 1919, see Patent Law of RF, 1919 (Декрет СНК РСФСР от 30.06.1919 “Об изобретениях (Положение)”) by Government of the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic: Vladimir Lenin, Vladimir Bonch-Bruyevich and Secretary of Government of the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic: Л. ФОТИЕВА. In 1926 the Law was rescinded. The formulation was restored in 1931 in Law of the USSR. The Patent Law of Russia (1919) is original source for determination “Author’s Certificate”. Article about “Author’s Certificate” was published in Great Soviet Encyclopedia only in 1926, it was the second source. USSR Government ordered the publication of Great Soviet Encyclopedia in 1925. I.A. Gringol'ts did not show the original source in his article “Author’s Certificate” in Great Soviet Encyclopedia, because in that time all properties belong to the Government, it was as the tradition (de-facto) and the Law. I.A. Gringol'ts was not author of the formulation of “Author’s Certificate” and he was not member of Russian Government in 1919. Article User:Inventcreat/Author’s Certificate (Variant 1) has not been broken any copyright. Inventcreat (talk) 10:24, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Make new ones and lie

As stupid as it is, all you need to do is make the two news accounts and then not say anything. Even if one sits unused and both of you are using the one account, just don't say anything like that and if anyone asks, lie to them and say only one of you is using it. They can't prove otherwise and, as long as you don't admit to both of you using the account, they can't do anything about it. Keep it secret. Silverseren^C 16:08, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]