Talk:El Niño

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inter-annual variability => the difference in temperature from one year to the next

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Australia had some of its greatest flooding ever in 2010-2011. According to various pages on the Australian Bureau of Meteorology website (www.bom.gov.au) , a major cause of these was the very strong La Nina of the time coupled with a very strong Indian Ocean Dipole. Surely this has to be worth including? Old_Wombat (talk) 10:22, 17 July 2011 (UTC) OK, I have done this myself now. Old_Wombat (talk) 07:43, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

potential resource

Fom Talk:War#potential resource SciAm and Science News ... From Talk:Politics of global warming#SciAm resource and Talk:Effects of climate change on humans#El Niño-Southern Oscillation and Civil disorder resource ...

El Niños may inflame civil unrest; Climate pattern correlates with increased risk of conflict By Janet Raloff October 8th, 2011; Vol.180 #8 (p. 16) Science News, regarding Solomon Hsiang of Princeton University and his coauthors at Columbia University report in the Aug. 25 Nature (journal), with comments by statistician Andrew Solow of the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts and Neil Johnson of the University of Miami and Yaneer Bar-Yam of the New England Complex Systems Institute in Cambridge, Mass; excerpt ...
About every seven years, climates in tropical regions swing between conditions dominated by an El Niño and those moderated by a La Niña (cooling in equatorial Pacific waters). During El Niño years, the likelihood that a new civil conflict would erupt in equatorial nations was roughly 6 percent, or twice that for La Niña periods.

99.109.124.130 (talk) 02:40, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification requested

Currently paragraph 2 of the lede begins

ENSO causes extreme weather (such as floods and droughts) in many regions of the world.

But ENSO is defined as a climate pattern, not a specific extreme portion of the pattern. Shouldn't it say something like the following?:

The extremes of this climate pattern's oscillations cause extreme weather (such as floods and droughts) in many regions of the world.

Duoduoduo (talk) 18:18, 7 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rename?

I can't think of any reason for this to be hyphenated. "Niño-Southern" is not a compound. This article should probably move to El Niño Southern Oscillation. I think someone meant something like "El Niño, Southern Oscillation" or "El Niño – Southern Oscillation" or "Southern Oscillation of El Niño", but none of that contortion is really necessary. And why is "Southern Oscillation" capitalized? Are meteorological oscillations always treated as proper nouns? If not, then this article should really be at El Niño southern oscillation. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(^Õل^ō)ˀ Contribs. 20:47, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

El Niño is the common name of the Southern Oscillation, and El Niño-Southern Oscillation (with the hyphen, dash, or some other short horizontal line) is a term commonly used in the scientific literature (e.g. [1]). "Southern Oscillation of El Niño" would be incorrect. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 20:54, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bias

The section on a possible link to Global Warming seems biased to me. The existence of Global Warming IS in dispute and yet the article discusses a possible link between El Nino and Global Warming as if Global Warming definitely exists for a fact. It does not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.196.248.241 (talk • contribs)

Disputed by who? By oil companies and people with a vested interest yes. By climatologists and people who actually study and research climate its essentially unanimously accepted