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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 26 Jul 2012 at 22:21:51 (UTC)

Original – American professional poker player Beth Shak, photographed in 2011
Cropped - not to be considered for FP
Reason
This high-quality image of professional poker player Beth Shak has been donated to the Wikimedia Foundation by Douglas Saunders, and (I believe) was handled through the OTRS by user The Rambling Man.
Articles in which this image appears
Beth Shak (lead image)
FP category for this image
People/Others
Creator
Douglas Saunders
  • Support as nominator --A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 22:21, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support There hasn't been something like this for a while (although slight crop may be warranted). Brandmeistertalk 08:51, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. J Milburn (talk) 09:55, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Low EV as I wouldn't guess she's notable as a poker player from this image. If there would be a joker sticking out somewhere... Also staged images are non-neutral, but rather promotional. --ELEKHHT 11:42, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Low EV. As Ms. Shak is not an interior decorator, far too much of this shot is occupied by a tastefully-appointed apartment; as Elekhh notes, this image's composition does nothing to link Ms. Shak to poker. While on a personal level I don't mind looking at photographs of women with pretty bodies, this image could be of any generic glamour model—its EV is harmed by the way that it minimizes her face against so much pleasant-but-extraneous matter. Truth be told, this image is high-enough resolution that there's a not-too-bad (featured-quality resolution, but not featured-quality composition) head-and-shoulders crop that would probably be better from an EV standpoint; I've uploaded such a crop for comparison but not voting. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 14:49, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: although I'm not opposed to photographs of people not doing the things for which they are known, the promotional nature, stance and composition doen't lend themselves to it being a clear portrait of the person. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 21:23, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support the image does seem promotional and unrelated to poker, but it wouldn't be out of place in the collection of existing Featured Pictures at Wikipedia:Featured_pictures/People/Entertainment, so I don't feel there is sufficient grounds for an oppose on the basis insufficient EV or the promotional pose. Someone is welcome to do a D&R later with a photo of her playing poker. Pine 07:43, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support High quality portrait image. If she was only a poker player then I probably wouldn't support for the reasons above (would be better to have some kind of context or a more neutral/natural candid shot) - however per the article, she is also a fashion designer (women's shoes in particular) and this justifies the glamour photo IMO --Fir0002 10:35, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]