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Good articleJoey Barton has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
August 5, 2007Peer reviewReviewed
August 20, 2007Good article nomineeListed
March 12, 2008Featured article candidateNot promoted
December 16, 2008Good article reassessmentKept
Current status: Good article

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Controversy

I have changed "stubbed out" to "poked" in the cigar incident. The reference says "stubbed a cigar", http://www.carling.com/football/manchester-city-fc/joey-barton.html says "poked" and http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=BLOGDETAIL&grid=P30&blog=yourview&xml=/sport/2006/02/02/uviewbarton.xml says "pushed".

I've also expanded on his sendings off, and removed "but hardly featured for the rest of the season, being injured or putting in below par performances as the club slipped from 8th to 15th" after the sentence on him signing a new contract in 2006. Joey only missed 7 league games in 2005-06; only David James and Darius Vassell played more. Chorleypie 21:07, 1 October 2006 (BST)

---I find the following statement,"He had two red cards in his first 120 games, both for two yellow cards" to be a little, well, odd. I don't see the significance of two reds in his first 120 games, neither were straight reds. I'm not saying he is innocent (in fact I know very little about Barton) but a breakdown of the yellows he has received would be a better representation of his on-field behaviour.Crx2gen 05:23, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're right. I put it in because a previous version talked specifically about one red card, and I wanted to point out that his record on the pitch isn't remarkably bad. I've taken it out now. Chorleypie 12:57, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How about putting in a "Controversy" section to separate his footballing success to his controversies (mainly) off the field? Also more can be added such as his criticism of Gerrard and Lampard. 13:44, 05 February 2007 (BST)

"Personal life"

Thought you could update : I read this morning that he is going out with Emma Walsh, a make-up artist from Ireland, for a while and she is 5 months pregnant now and there both very happy..83.70.41.162 15:20, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone else think it's a bit unfair that all his "Personal Life" section discusses is his brother's murder conviction? I'm sure there's more to his personal life than just this. I should think that either more information should be added that actually relates to Joey Barton's personal life or the header should be renamed to something along the lines of "Family Issues" or "Brother's Murder Trial". Just a thought. Cricketseven 18:27, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think the header is OK but I expect you're right that there's more to his personal life than this. Feel free to add something! While I'm on, I've deleted the 86.15.97.211 contribution "the media [neglected] to mention that he handed his shirt to a disabled Manchester City fan", because we have a BBC link which does mention this. (Chorleypie 08:15, 15 February 2007 (UTC))[reply]

I agree that it is unfair to discuss his half-brothers murder conviction. I think the most that should be stated is "Joey Barton is the half-brother of convicted murderer Michael Barton" Anybody who wishes to read further can click the internal link.

Why does it say that he gave evidence at his brother's trial while the indicated link doesn't state that. 71.252.136.202 01:36, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I personally think that this should be included as a well publicised (at least in the UK) and, presumably, a significant part of his personal life. I changed the wording slightly so that it mentioned the name of the murder victim and included the fact that the murder was deemed to be racially motivated. I added the name because, again, the victim was very well publicised (in the UK) as was the nature of the crime - so I'd personally consider these to be relevant, and of interest to the reader. Would be good to hear what others think. Ghost Yacht 18:44, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please add details of his prison term <url>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7409943.stm</url> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.16.176.79 (talk) 12:09, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA review

It's a very well written article, I just have a few small things to be addressed, some maybe personal preference so tell me if any of these go into that sort of area, cheers:

  • In the lead sentence, it says "Joseph Anthony Barton (...) commonly known as Joey Barton", but I don't think it really needs the latter part because one already knows what he's commonly known as by the article name and the infobox as well.
  • I'm slightly concerned by the frequent use of dates in the article. For instance, in the second paragraph of "Senior career", the date is mentioned in two sentences in succession - it kinda feels a bit repetitive after a while. One thing you could do, for instance, is just mention the month (and year) rather than the day, month and year or perhaps say "...a week after "X", "Y" happened".
  • In the "style of play" section, it reads "...which has helped him gain a reputation as a 'box-to-box' player" - Now, I know what that is but that doesn't mean the rest of Wikipedia does, is there an article explaining this term?
  • Also in the same section "Newcastle manager Sam Allardyce stated that one of the reasons he signed Barton was his goalscoring ability. In the 2006–07 season, Barton finished as Manchester City's top goalscorer, despite not being a striker." - Wouldn't this be better in the Senior career section?
  • Same section again, "Some pundits have also acknowledged that this aspect of his game has shown improvement since the 2005–06 season" - Can you specify who said this? For instance, you could use Colin Illingworth - the author of the work you cited for tat sentence.
  • "Statistics have shown Barton to be one of the best tacklers in the Premier League" - Examples? :-)
  • In the "outside of football section" in the quote box it reads at the start "Michael, if you have..." - After reading the sentence I realise it's his brother but one could put this instead "Michael [Barton, Joey's brother], if you have..."
  • Finially, can you alphabetize the categories.

As for future plans for the article if your planning for an FA with this, then there are a few things I could recommend:

  • Wait - A footballer's career can change dramatically and thus isn't stable. I know it's pretty far away but it's but a footballer's article becomes more stable after they retire.
  • A few more sections, for instance you could split the career sections by club to make navigating through the article easier.
  • When Barton wins an annual award, remember to add a succession box for it - Oh and use the right heading as well (For a sportsmen you'll need Template:s-sports and [[Template:s-awards]] Template:s-ach).
edited to replace s-awards with s-ach Bazj (talk) 17:20, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Remember, that those three things you don't need to address for this GA review but rather suggestions for future improvement.

Anyway, for now I'll be keeping this article on hold until the points have been addressed, thanks. --Phill talk Edits Review this GA review! 10:59, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers for addressing my points, I will now pass this article. Matty, you probably know the drill when I do a GA review ;-), thanks. --Phill talk Edits Review this GA review! 08:06, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Copyedit

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Charity work

[1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sir-Nobby (talk • contribs) 21:11, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Upload images to Wikimedia?

Hi, I would like to put the images in this article in another languege article about Barton. Since the images belong to to English wikipedia, I still can't do that. Can the authors of these images upload them to wikimedia commons so that I could use them myself? Thanks, YemeniteCamel (talk) 08:43, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

6 months sentence

Is it 6 months in prison, or is he just currently in jail? CorleoneSerpicoMontana (talk) 12:14, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"He is currently serving a six month prison term and plays for English Premier League club Newcastle United, as a midfielder." - if he's currently in prison, he doesn't currently play for Newcastle, so this sentence needs sorting out. Any ideas? Bingobangobongoboo (talk) 14:24, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What about "He is currently contracted to English Premier League club Newcastle United and plays as a midfielder. He is currently serving a six month term in prison."? --116.49.132.113 (talk) 16:07, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This article needs to be protected; it's a big target for vandals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.21.56.204 (talk) 13:36, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Disgraced?

I think it is appropriate to prefix Joey Barton with the adjective "disgraced", given his recent spell in prison for assault and affray, not to speak of his history of disciplinary problems —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mirrorballman (talk • contribs) 22:27, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.108.160.130 (talk) 12:42, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly he's as famous for being a convicted, violent criminal as a football player.--77.255.118.165 (talk) 11:21, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dead

I see the article is recording Joey as "DEAD"  ??????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.212.124.34 (talk) 11:03, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We could but hope...... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.180.7.125 (talk) 23:52, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Joey Barton/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Regards,--Jackyd101 (talk) 19:26, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
Prose is OK, a 7/10.
  • It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  • It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  • It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    a (fair representation): b (all significant views):
  • It is stable.
  • It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
    a (tagged and captioned): b (lack of images does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):
  • Overall:
    a Pass/Fail:

Layout

The lead has become unruly. Some of the third paragraph of the lead should be in the "Personal life" section keeping the lead a summary. WP:LEAD might help. Thought I would get some feedback here first since he is a controversial figure and this article made it to GA.Cptnono (talk) 01:44, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Jim Michael (talk) 17:18, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Featured Article worthy?

This article has surely got to be a candidate for Featured Article status, or at least be given the slight bit of work it needs for the final push in to making it FA. It is well-written, well-referenced and has a good number of photos. Professor Toon (talk) 19:37, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Appearances don't tally

The table listing club appearances doesn't tally:

  • 130+81+26 league games ≠ 230;
  • 26+1 games for QPR ≠ 26;
  • 153+84+26 games by club ≠ 230+13+6+5 games by competition ≠ 255 total games.

Grutness...wha? 12:45, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Joey Barton Squad Number

Joey Barton's new squad number is 6, as per Marseille's homepage http://www.om.net/en/Teams/201002/Effectif_pro/1815/Barton — Preceding unsigned comment added by Escollay (talk • contribs) 15:51, 13 September 2012 (UTC) ** Done JMHamo 20:52, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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