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Explanation
It is reasonable to expect that Template:Latter-day Saints would contain links to all of the core articles for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church), given the nature of that template. A somewhat new editor used a subset of the articles listed there to create Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints , but in an effort to keep that book small, only included approximately half of the total number. Criteria for which to exclude has not been established, other than personal judgement. A small number of articles not found on Template:Latter-day Saints had also been added to that book.
This brings up a number of interrelated questions:
If these articles are not needed in a limited length book about the LDS Church, should they still be included on Template:Latter-day Saints ?
If so, is it reasonable to consider some of these articles excluded from Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints but on the template to be core topics? If so, which ones?
If they are indeed core topics identified this way, should they be added to Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints ?
If articles not found on Template:Latter-day Saints are necessary for inclusion in a restricted length book about the LDS Church, should they be considered for inclusion on Template:Latter-day Saints ?
If they are added to Template:Latter-day Saints , would they qualify to be added to a core topics list? If so, which ones?
Regardless of how an article came to be included on included on Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints , are there any articles there that are not enough of a core topic to merit being removed from there? If so, which ones?
Regardless of how an article came to be excluded from Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints , are there core topic articles that are missing, and should be added?
This seems to necessitate some detailed analysis of each item. In order to assist with answering these questions, I'm also comparing Template:Latter-day Saints and Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints with an alternate list of articles that I proposed at Book talk:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on 2/10. I readily concede that my list was rough, and that I added items to my list based on my own personal knowledge and preferences.
Additionally I have found Book:LDS Church , which appears to be a less useful duplicate attempt at Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints . The analysis should hopefully help make it clear what useful contents are in it, and if not found useful enough to be merged into Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints , help determine if it is appropriate to remove if from the community supported book namespace (either by userfying, or simply deleting).
After some back-and-forth discussions at Talk:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints , I realised that objective criteria are needed in order to identify core topics both for inclusion in Template:Latter-day Saints and Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints . This page is an attempt to at researching what that criteria might be. In the case that I cannot elucidate a concise and coherent set of criteria based on this analysis, I have as a secondary goal, to provide the community with a useful starting point for discussions about identifying the core topic articles for describing the LDS Church. This will then naturally feed what is included on Template:Latter-day Saints and Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints .
Initial objectives
I will be evaluating:
By combining these these four separate sources into a common table, I hope to make obvious the commonalities and differences.
Individual lists from resources
Template:Latter-day Saints
Order of appearance
Alphabetically
Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Initial order of appearance
Alphabetical
Added 2/11
Alternate lists from Book talk:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Order of appearance
Alphabetical
Book:LDS Church
Combined
As a combined list we get the following values:
Table
Differences
Exclusions
Items found on Template:Latter-day Saints, but excluded at another location
From Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
The following items appear on Template:Latter-day Saints but are excluded from Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
7 Anthon Transcript
8 Anti-Mormonism
14 Beliefs and practices of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
15 Bible
18 Black people and Mormonism
19 Bloggernacle
25 Brigham Young University
26 Calling (religious)#Latter-day Saints
27 Celestial marriage
30 Church Educational System
31 Church of Christ (Latter Day Saints)
39 Criticism of the Book of Mormon
40 Criticism of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
41 Culture of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
46 Death of Joseph Smith
48 Deseret Book
49 Deseret Industries
60 Especially for Youth
63 FairMormon
65 FamilySearch
68 Finances of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
72 For the Strength of Youth
73 Foundation for Ancient Research and Mormon Studies
76 Genetics and the Book of Mormon
90 Historical authenticity of the Book of Mormon
95 Homosexuality and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
111 LDS cinema
113 LDS Humanitarian Services
114 Linguistics and the Book of Mormon
115 List of films of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
117 List of historic sites of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
120 List of pageants of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
126 Membership history of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
130 Mormon
133 Mormon Channel
138 Mormon fundamentalism
144 Mormon studies
146 Mormon Tabernacle Choir
150 Mormonism and Christianity
153 Mormonism and polygamy
154 Mormonism and violence
155 Mormonism and women
160 Mountain Meadows massacre
166 Origin of the Book of Mormon
172 Portrayals of Mormons in popular media
178 Priesthood (LDS Church)
189 Salamander letter
195 September Six
198 Sexuality and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
199 Sidney Rigdon
207 Succession crisis (Latter Day Saints)
208 Sunday School (LDS Church)
213 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints hymns
214 The Family: A Proclamation to the World
215 Thomas S. Monson
225 Worship services of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Alternate list from Book talk:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
The following items appear on Template:Latter-day Saints but are excluded from the first alternate list found on Book talk:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
7 Anthon Transcript
8 Anti-Mormonism
15 Bible
18 Black people and Mormonism
19 Bloggernacle
25 Brigham Young University
26 Calling (religious)#Latter-day Saints
27 Celestial marriag39 Criticism of the Book of Mormon
39 Criticism of the Book of Mormon
40 Criticism of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
48 Deseret Book
49 Deseret Industries
60 Especially for Youth
63 FairMormon
68 Finances of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
72 For the Strength of Youth
73 Foundation for Ancient Research and Mormon Studies
76 Genetics and the Book of Mormon
90 Historical authenticity of the Book of Mormon
95 Homosexuality and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
111 LDS cinema
114 Linguistics and the Book of Mormon
115 List of films of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
117 List of historic sites of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
130 Church Educational System
138 Mormon fundamentalism
144 Mormon studies
146 Mormon Tabernacle Choir
153 Mormonism and polygamy
154 Mormonism and violence
155 Mormonism and women
166 Origin of the Book of Mormon
172 Portrayals of Mormons in popular media
189 Salamander letter
195 September Six
198 Sexuality and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
199 Sidney Rigdon
213 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints hymns
214 The Family: A Proclamation to the World
215 Thomas S. Monson
Book:LDS Church
Included on Template:Latter-day Saints but excluded from Book:LDS Church
2 1890 Manifesto
7 Anthon Transcript
15 Bible
19 Bloggernacle
21 Book of Abraham
22 Book of Mormon
23 Book of Moses
25 Brigham Young University
26 Calling (religious)#Latter-day Saints
30 Church Educational System
31 Church of Christ (Latter Day Saints)
39 Criticism of the Book of Mormon
40 Criticism of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
46 Death of Joseph Smith
48 Deseret Book
49 Deseret Industries
53 Doctrine and Covenants
60 Especially for Youth
63 FairMormon
64 Family Home Evening
65 FamilySearch
67 Fast Sunday
68 Finances of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
71 First Vision
72 For the Strength of Youth
73 Foundation for Ancient Research and Mormon Studies
76 Genetics and the Book of Mormon
81 Good Neighbor policy (LDS Church)
90 Historical authenticity of the Book of Mormon
111 LDS cinema
113 LDS Humanitarian Services
114 Linguistics and the Book of Mormon
115 List of films of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
117 List of historic sites of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
120 List of pageants of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
126 Membership history of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
130 Mormon
132 Mormon Battalion
133 Mormon Channel
139 Mormon handcart pioneers
143 Mormon pioneers
144 Mormon studies
146 Mormon Tabernacle Choir
154 Mormonism and violence
160 Mountain Meadows massacre
162 Name of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
166 Origin of the Book of Mormon
172 Portrayals of Mormons in popular media
180 Primary (LDS Church)
184 Relief Society
186 Revelation (Latter Day Saints)
189 Salamander letter
195 September Six
198 Sexuality and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
199 Sidney Rigdon
208 Sunday School (LDS Church)
213 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints hymns
214 The Family: A Proclamation to the World
226 Young Men (organization)
227 Young Women (organization)
Items not found on Template:Latter-day Saints , but found on the other locations
Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
43 Current state of polygamy in the Latter Day Saint movement
61 Exaltation (Mormonism)
109 Latter Day Saints in popular culture
121 List of presidents of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
159 Mormons
177 Priesthood (Latter Day Saints)
181 Prophet, seer, and revelator
187 Sacrament (LDS Church)
Alternate list from Book talk:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
1 1838 Mormon War
3 1978 Revelation on Priesthood
9 Area (LDS Church)
11 Baptism for the dead
12 Baptism in Mormonism
13 Battle of Crooked River
16 Bible Dictionary (LDS Church)
17 Bishop's storehouse
29 Chronology of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles (LDS Church)
38 Covenant (Latter Day Saints)
43 Current state of polygamy in the Latter Day Saint movement
52 District (LDS Church)
61 Exaltation (Mormonism)
66 Fast offering
80 Golden plates
86 Haun's Mill massacre
91 History of Nauvoo, Illinois
93 History of the Latter Day Saint movement
108 Latter Day Saint polygamy in the late-19th century
109 Latter Day Saints in popular culture
116 List of general authorities of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
118 List of Latter Day Saint periodicals
121 List of presidents of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
127 Mission (LDS Church)
129 Missouri Executive Order 44
131 Mormon art
134 Mormon Corridor
136 Mormon folk music
137 Mormon folklore
140 Mormon Helping Hands
141 Mormon literature
142 Mormon music
145 Mormon Reformation
147 Mormon Trail
151 Mormonism and Islam
152 Mormonism and Judaism
156 Mormonism in the 19th century
157 Mormonism in the 20th century
158 Mormonism in the 21st century
159 Mormons
167 Origin of Latter Day Saint polygamy
170 Pioneer Day (Utah)
174 President of the Church
179 Priesthood Correlation Program
181 Prophet, seer, and revelator
187 Sacrament (LDS Church)
188 Sacrament meeting
192 Second Coming (LDS Church)
193 Second Manifesto
204 Stake (Latter Day Saints)
206 State of Deseret
217 Utah in the American Civil War
218 Utah Territory
219 Utah War
220 Ward (LDS Church)
228 Zion (Latter Day Saints)
229 Zion's Camp
Book:LDS Church
1 1838 Mormon Wa
4 Aaronic priesthood (Latter Day Saints)
5 Adam and Eve (LDS Church)
6 Adam–God doctrine
11 Baptism for the dead
20 Blood atonement
28 Chronology of the First Presidency (LDS Church)
32 Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the Kingdom of God
33 Confirmation (Latter Day Saints)
34 Continuous revelation
35 Council of Fifty
36 Council of Friends
37 Council of Friends (Woolley)
38 Covenant (Latter Day Saints)
42 Cumorah
44 David O. McKay
45 David Whitmer
47 Degrees of glory
50 Direct revelation
51 Disciplinary council
54 Early life of Joseph Smith
55 Eight Witnesses
56 Elden Kingston
57 Elder (Latter Day Saints)
58 Endowment (Latter Day Saints)
59 Endowment (Mormonism)
61 Exaltation (Mormonism)
62 Ezra Taft Benson
66 Fast offering
69 First Book of Nephi
77 George Albert Smith
82 Gordon B. Hinckley
83 Great Apostasy
84 Hagoth
85 Harold B. Lee
87 Heber J. Grant
88 High priest (Latter Day Saints)
89 Hiram Page
93 History of the Latter Day Saint movement
94 Holy of Holies (LDS Church)
96 Howard W. Hunter
97 John Taylor (Mormon)
98 Joseph F. Smith
99 Joseph Fielding Smith
104 King Follett discourse
105 Latter Day Church of Christ
107 Latter Day Saint movement and engraved metal plates
110 Law of consecration
119 List of Mormon fundamentalist leaders
121 List of presidents of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
122 List of sects in the Latter Day Saint movement
123 Lorenzo Snow
124 Lorin C. Woolley
125 Melchizedek priesthood (Latter Day Saints)
127 Mission (LDS Church)
135 Mormon cosmology
148 Mormonism
149 Mormonism and authority
159 Mormons
161 Mulek
163 Nauvoo Temple
165 Ordinance room
168 Patriarch (Latter Day Saints)
173 Pre-existence
177 Priesthood (Latter Day Saints)
182 Quorum of the Twelve
190 Sealing (Mormonism)
191 Second Book of Nephi
194 Seer stone (Latter Day Saints)
197 Sexuality and Mormonism
200 Son of perdition (Mormonism)
201 Spalding–Rigdon theory of Book of Mormon authorship
202 Spencer W. Kimball
203 Spirit world (Latter Day Saints)
209 Temple (Latter Day Saints)
211 Temple garment
216 Three Witnesses
221 Warren Parrish
222 Washing and anointing
223 Wilford Woodruff
224 William Law (Latter Day Saints)
Exclusivities
Template:Latter-day Saints
Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Alternate lists from Book talk:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Book:LDS Church
Commonalities
All
The following is common to all 4 resources evaluated:
10 Articles of Faith (Latter Day Saints)
24 Brigham Young
70 First Presidency (LDS Church)
74 General authority
75 General Conference (LDS Church)
78 God in Mormonism
92 History of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
100 Joseph Smith
101 Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible
102 Joseph Smith–History
103 Joseph Smith–Matthew
106 Latter Day Saint movement
112 LDS edition of the Bible
128 Missionary (LDS Church)
164 Ordinance (Latter Day Saints)
169 Pearl of Great Price (Mormonism)
171 Plan of salvation (Latter Day Saints)
175 President of the Church (LDS Church)
176 Presiding Bishop (LDS Church)
183 Quorum of the Twelve Apostles (LDS Church)
185 Restoration (Latter Day Saints)
196 Seventy (LDS Church)
205 Standard works
210 Temple (LDS Church)
212 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Analysis
If I were to redo the list I created, I would not include the following individual articles that are primarily about LDS Church history:
This is because they are adequately summarized by History of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints , History of the Latter Day Saint movement , History of Utah , and Mormonism and polygamy .
For that same reason I would exclude from any core topics list the following articles that were included in one of the other sources:
They are likely core articles in more narrowly defined subtopics, such as History of the LDS Church , Mormonism and Polygamy , <> ...
but those should be found on separate templates and books which are specific to those subtopics, and not on Template:Latter-day Saints & Book:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints .
Conclusions
Afterword