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Considerations

Hello everybody! Thanks for your warm welcome and for taking into consideration that I am a new wikipedian. ;) Peace. (Roxyuru (talk) 18:25, 22 May 2013 (UTC))[reply]


Welcome

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In addition to this standard welcome message, I regret for having removed some of the images you added. Images in galeries for departments and other places should be limited to few selected ones that are most representative of the topic. If you need any further assistance please feel free to ask me in my talk page. Thank you. Hoverfish Talk 20:22, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I will be glad to be of assistance on any technical or contextual issue. I also live in Uruguay, I understand Spanish fairly well but I prefer to express myself in English. Hoverfish Talk 02:46, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Gardel's birthplace

Hi, I'm Binksternet, a veteran Wikipedia editor who is interested in tango (among many other things.) I am the one who made certain that the Tango article tells the reader that tango's origins are not just Buenos Aires but also Montevideo, per UNESCO. Since you are Uruguayan, this action is probably something you appreciate.

When I first started learning tango in 1996, I met some people who said that there was a dispute about Carlos Gardel's birth, that he was most likely born in Uruguay. I accepted that as true for more than a decade. I learned that the dispute was between Toulouse, France, and Tacuarembó, Uruguay, but I did not research the matter, or read any biographies of Gardel. My first edit to the Wikipedia article about Gardel was this one in September 2010, in which I removed BsAs as a possible birthplace, and left Toulouse and Tacuarembó in place. By September 2012 after reading some books I had come to the conclusion that Gardel was born in Toulouse, not Tacuarembó. The books are very good ones, very highly respected:

  • Ruffinelli, Jorge (2004). La sonrisa de Gardel: Biografía, mito y ficción (in Spanish). Ediciones Trilce. pp. 15, 91, 119, 139. ISBN 9974323568.
  • Collier, Simon (1986). The Life, Music, and Times of Carlos Gardel. University of Pittsburgh Press. p. 5. ISBN 0822984989.
  • Barsky, Julián; Barsky, Osvaldo (2004). Gardel: La biografía (in Spanish). Taurus. ISBN 9870400132.
  • de Saint-Blancat, Monique Ruffié; Esteban, Juan Carlos; Galopa, Georges (2006). Carlos Gardel: Sus Antecedentes Franceses (in Spanish). Corregidor. ISBN 9500516349.
  • Bocaz, Luis (March 1986). "Tango Time", UNESCO Courier, p. 11.
  • Alvarez, Eliseo (1995). Carlos Gardel : biografía autorizada (in Spanish). De la Urraca.

I am writing all of this to tell you respectfully that I have reverted your additions to the Gardel biography. These books are very good sources, and they outweigh the sources that you relied on:

  • www.welcomeuruguay.com
  • Payssé, González (1990). "Gardel. Páginas Abiertas". Montevideo.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)
  • Ostuni (1997). Repatriación de Gardel. Buenos Aires.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)
  • Bayardo (2000). "Carlos Gardel: A la luz de la Historia". Montevideo.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)

One editor named Zorzaluruguay came to the article and argued your position, that the Uruguay birthplace theory should be given equal weight to the Toulouse theory. We conducted a dispute resolution procedure about the argument, which you can see at Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard/Archive_45#Carlos_Gardel. I brought in a handful of the best sources, including academic books from Uruguay, Argentina, Chile and USA. The result of that discussion was that "the Uruguay theory gained much less acceptance" than the Toulouse birth. The matter is settled. I see no need to increase the importance of any documents held in the Tacuarembó museum, because they were created in 1920 when Gardel was a grown man. Binksternet (talk) 04:05, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply. I understand you position but I will try to get the documents which prove that he was registered as born in Uruguay. I am a novice. I respect academics and I value that you are a veteran, but it should be admitted that his French nationality cannot be proved. It is mere speculation. Therefore, it would be wiser to stress this fact. Is it possible that I upload some photographs from the museum of the birth certificates? A document is a document... Best regards, (Roxyuru (talk) 04:13, 19 May 2013 (UTC))[reply]
It would be good for you to upload some photographs of the various documents. However, Wikipedia is not here to argue the cause of Tacuarembó. Instead, Wikipedia tells the reader what the various parties have argued. The arguments are finished, and Toulouse is proven. Photographs of the Tacuarembó documents would be interesting but they will not help to prove anything. Binksternet (talk) 05:15, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(talk) I am not making an argument of any cause. I am not defending any cause. I did not even know there was a "cause of Tacuarembó". Who named it as such, by the way? lol I know Wikipedia is about consensus and I know that some books from well-known Argentinian and a Uruguayan historian have a certain weight. However, on practical terms, a fact is a fact and when there is a birth certificate in Uruguay that states that Gardel was Uruguayan, what can you say? At least, be open to know about it. We cannot state something on mere hearsay or speculation, or on a French document that does not even correspond with Gardel´s data. Are French documents more important than Uruguayan ones? Are books more important than documents? Just a couple of questions a novice would ask a veteran. Thanks. (Roxyuru (talk) 01:58, 20 May 2013 (UTC))[reply]

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May 2013

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Thank you for your talking and guidance. I am a new user and I'm willing to learn. I may use the under construction icon, which comes handy. (Roxyuru (talk) 03:24, 29 May 2013 (UTC)) [reply]

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Deletion discussion about Yamandú Rodríguez

Hello Roxyuru,

I wanted to let you know that I've asked for a deletion discussion about the redirect Yamandú Rodríguez. If you're interested in participating in this discussion, please leave your comments here. TKK bark ! 03:51, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Flora in Uruguay

Hello Roxyuru,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Flora in Uruguay for deletion, because it doesn't appear to contain any encyclopedic content. Take a look at our suggestions for essential content in short articles to learn what should be included.

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You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Auree ★★ 05:54, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Flora of Uruguay

Hi Roxyuru. I have nominated Flora of Uruguay, an article you created, for deletion as it contains no content. While you did indicate the article was still under construction, articles cannot stand alone without any information on the subject whatsoever. I suggest creating a sandbox page in your own userspace instead (for example, User:Roxyuru/Flora of Uruguay), where you may work on building the article at a desired pace using reliable sources. Thanks for your consideration and happy editing -- I look forward to seeing the article reappear in due time. Auree ★★ 06:01, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Auree ★★ 06:01, 29 May 2013 (UTC) I am working on this page. I have added some content, a picture and sources. Please, check it out and be patient. Your contribution is welcome as well. (Roxyuru (talk) 14:06, 31 May 2013 (UTC)).[reply]

Flora of Uruguay

Auree ★★ 06:01, 29 May 2013 (UTC) I am working on this page. I have added some content, a picture and sources. Please, check it out and be patient. Your contribution is welcome as well. (Roxyuru (talk) 14:06, 31 May 2013 (UTC)).[reply]

Information icon Hello, I'm MusikAnimal. I wanted to let you know that I undid one of your recent contributions, such as the one you made with this edit to Wikipedia:Copyright violations, because it didn’t appear constructive to me. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks, — MusikAnimal talk 15:17, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Roxyuru. While I understand your frustration, I wasn't the one to nominate the subsequent articles for deletion. In any case, it may be best to work on the article in a sandbox—in your own personal user space—first, and then ask an administrator to move the article to Wikipedia main space when it is substantial enough. I explained how to create a sandbox on your talk page, above. As for the title, I personally think "Flora of Uruguay" sounds better. Cheers and good luck, Auree ★★ 18:20, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion notice removal

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Talkback

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Kolbasz is right, we do not duplicate articles in the Main space of Wikipedia. Keep working on the existing page. It is quite an acceptable topic and it is not likely to be deleted. Please avoid adding so many images to such a small article. 3-4 images should be enough for now. If the article becomes much bigger, a few more can be included. A small gallery under the section "References" could be acceptable. Also we do not place links to the corresponding articles in other language Wikipedias. This happens either automatically (after a while) or manually if one has a login account in Wikidata. In any case, I connected now to the Spanish Wikipedia manually and the link appears in the bottom of the left column. Hoverfish Talk 21:36, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Flora in Uruguay

Hello Roxyuru,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Flora in Uruguay for deletion, because it appears to duplicate an existing Wikipedia article, [[:{{{article}}}]].

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You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Auree ★★ 06:58, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't keep creating parallel articles, first Flora in Uruguay and then "Flora in Uruguay", it just confuses things. Flora of Uruguay is the best title, and no-one is proposing to delete that. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 07:52, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edits at Carnival Museum

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Please feel free to post on my Talk page with any questions, hope this helps! MatthewVanitas (talk) 21:50, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Roxyuru

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Wikilinking

Hi, and thanks for your work on the English Wikipedia.

I noticed an article you worked on. Just a short note to point out that we don’t normally link:

  • dates
  • years
  • commonly known geographical terms (including well-known country-names), and
  • common terms you’d look up in a dictionary (unless significantly technical).

This applies to infoboxes, too.

Thanks, and my best wishes.

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Nice to meet you @ wikimania 2015

Hi! So much fun to meet you at beatles dance party and hang out on Sunday!!! My email is c@danoff.org and facebook.com/cdanoff. --Charles Jeffrey Danoff 19:33, 19 July 2015 (UTC) Charles Jeffrey Danoff 19:33, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

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