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Based on this [1] the historic name is "Baltimore Light Station". -- Stbalbach 19:31, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As per Talk:Lighthouses_in_the_United_States, I think consensus was to use the term "light" in writing articles, and in making other things redirects to it. --AlbertHerring 21:29, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm didn't see anything there about limiting it to two words "XYZ Light". .. USCG calls it officially "Baltimore Light Station", USCG seems to be the source most people want to use. -- Stbalbach 22:13, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

According to the talk here, the consensus was to use "Light". Beyond that, I don't know - I'm a rather late arrival to the discussion, so all I've got to go on is what's linked, sorry. --AlbertHerring 01:07, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Light instead of Lighthouse. Which is how it is. Not Baltimore Lighthouse Station. -- Stbalbach 01:14, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'll put up the question on the WikiProject page. My chief concern is to achieve unity - I don't object to the phrase "light station" in the article title, but if that's the case, then every article ought to be consistent with it, which isn't the case right now.

Sorry to be so obstrop...so obstrep...so annoying about this - I'm not usually this argumentative, I swear. --AlbertHerring 01:33, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Coast Guard calls it a light and not a Light station. See see http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/LHMD.html and page 77 of District 5 Lights list at http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pubs/LightLists/V2COMPLETE.PDF. --- Skapur 02:15, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

According to this USCG document:

historic name: Baltimore Light Station

This is the only place that seems to assign an "official name" and not just an unqualified name - most big institutions are notorious for using short-hand versions of names - for good reason, saves document space .. same reason we say WP:V instead of Wikipedia:Verifiable. -- Stbalbach 02:27, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There was a BIG discussion in Talk:Lighthouses in the United States on this topic and the consensus was to use Light for all manners of Lighthouses. As far as WP:V is concerned, the USCG Lights list does define a "Lighthouse to be a lighted beacon of major importance" but does not define a Light station. A Light is defined officially in the Lights list by the USCG as "The signal emitted by a lighted aid to navigation. The illuminating apparatus used to emit the light signal. A lighted aid to navigation on a fixed structure." See page INTRO13 of http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pubs/LightLists/V2COMPLETE.PDF for the above definitions. The only place a Light station is mentioned is in reference to Off Shore Tower. --- Skapur

No one was suggesting changing it to Lighthouse. But the official name is clearly laid out with no ambiguities as "Baltimore Light Station". As for your links, it sounds like a "light" could be anything that emits light. And it sure sounds to me like a lighthouse is an off shore tower. A "light" just means an aid to navigation, but when talking about a "lighthouse", the structure that houses the light et al, the USCG uses "light station". -- Stbalbach 05:43, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think you are getting the point. As far as the Coast Guard is concerned, they are all "Lights". As a mariner looking at charts and lists, I look at it as Light. You may want to google Baltimore Light Station. I get more links to rail road stations than anything else. --- Skapur 01:14, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok I guess we name em based on Google results? I thought we were going by the USCG. Which is "Baltimore Light Station".

But according to this, also a Coast Guard page, it's Light. --AlbertHerring 05:41, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah but that is an unqualified name - it could be short-hand (like BWI is shorthand for Baltimore-Washington International Airport) - we don't know, there is no qualifier. Just because it is on a web page doesn't say much. In fact, the USCG says specifically historic name: Baltimore Light Station. So we know its "historic name". -- Stbalbach 15:46, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are conjecturing that it is shorthand. BTW the name on BWI's web site is Baltimore/Washington Thurgood Marshall Airport with a "/" rather than a "-" although the Wikipedia article is Baltimore-Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport. Please consider the consensus of Wikipedia editors that agree on using "Light" in Talk:Lighthouses in the United States. Normally in Wikipedia, editor consensus rather than official name is the guide in naming. --- Skapur 19:00, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]