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Disclaimer: I'm the creator of Ren'Py, so I have a bit of a conflict of interest over this page. So I'll try not to edit it directly, but rather post things here that will hopefully influence people maintaining the page.

First of all, the name is "Ren'Py", not Renpy or Ren'py. It would probably be best if this page was at that name.

I suspect some will question Ren'Py's notability. Here are some reasons why it's notable:

There have been a number of articles about Ren'Py in various magazines. IIRC, there was a feature article about Ren'Py in GX magazine, an italian magazine. There was also some coverage in a Finnish magazine a while back.
I was interviewed about Ren'Py for the last issue of Animefringe [1] back in 2005.
There was an academic publication about Ren'Py a while back. (And not by me, surprisingly.) I'll try and find the link.
Ren'Py is included in Ubuntu and Debian.

Since the Ren'Py demo is copyright me, I can license specific screenshots under the GFDL on request.

I suggest that this page (which currently is largely taken from [2]) might be better reduced to more of a stub, as right now it reads like the semi-advertising that open source projects do.

I do ask people give us some time to clean this up before immediately hitting the delete key. — PyTom (talk) 16:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the 'notability' tag, having incorporated those items above which I can find references for into the main article.

Additionally, it should be noted that there were outstanding requests for a Ren'Py article on the Culture and Fine Arts and Video Games article request lists.

I didn't include a couple of magazine-style mentions (e.g. this one) because they would have confused and degraded the article in the interest of pandering to the 'notability' crowd, which is stupid.

Also I totally forgot to uncheck the 'minor edit' box, and I don't think I can go back and fix that. :/ JakeS (talk) 18:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. FWIW, the publication about Ren'Py appeared in MIPRO 2007: [3]. — PyTom (talk) 19:18, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't updated this in a while, but here's an article in an online publication by Red Hat: [4] — PyTom (talk) 13:21, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

export to online?

Greetings. First, is there a way to export Ren'Py stories to an online package?

If not, I was also wondering if there was an online project that does what Ren'Py does? I am a teacher and there is no way that school admins will ever allow to install this software(or most any other software for that matter). Same problem with student machines, most parents won't allow their children to install software for lots of good reasons. So, is there a Ren'Py online or something similar? Thanks.--DennisDaniels (talk) 03:02, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You do not need to install it, just extract the archive (for example to "My Documents" directory) and run the "renpy.exe" program. For school you should probably make a version without "the question" example, and optionally make your own template. (I am a teacher too, and I use it at our school.) -- Viliam Búr 92.52.28.192 (talk) 18:57, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

More Sources

On the off chance anyone ins interested in improving this article.

[5] A profile of Ren'Py at indiegames.com (which appears to be a reliable source according to the games wikiproject, despite the word "weblog" in the title).
[6] A German print magazine article.
[7] An introduction on makeuseof.com (I don't know how reliable they are.)
[8] is one place where it was taught in a college course. (There have been several other courses as well.)
[9] recommends Ren'Py.
[10] and [11] are peer reviewed articles about creating a Ren'Py game.
Ren'Py has also been name-dropped in The Guardian a couple of times, but isn't really covered in depth - the writers seem to assume their audience knows what it is, or can google it.

Merge discussion

Probably best fit at List of visual novel engines#Ren'Py? --Mr. Magoo (talk) 04:28, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm COI on this, as the lead developer of the engine - but there are standalone articles in quite a few other languages, and a number of source materials. It think it might make sense to try to expand the standalone article, rather than merging it into a list. — PyTom (talk) 06:35, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Considering Pygame for example has less information than this page and is still a standalone article, it feels ill-advised. However, this article also doesn't have any reliable sources either. What it really needs are reliable sources (e.g. mentions in the press or in published books/articles) to prove notability. Considering there are several mentioned above that have not yet been integrated into the article it certainly seems worthy of its own article. --_{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 22:19, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I see no need for a merger. I also think being used to make over 850 games makes it sufficiently notable. TorbenTT (talk) 12:54, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There seems to be opposition so I'm rescinding it. However this article isn't written very neutrally and because of the COI tie I'm adding a COI tag. The article used to have plenty of hatnotes noting something akin to this so this is just returning them really. --Mr. Magoo (talk) 10:21, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This is the only edit PyTom has made to the article. It occurred 7½ years ago and is not present in the current version of the page. I'm removing the COI tag. Reach Out to the Truth 14:33, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I've tried to avoid editing this page myself, but it looks like I might have forgotten once. While the article has improved quite a bit, it might make sense to focus on the incomplete and somewhat random list of games, and more on the language itself - see the article in the Japanese wikipedia for an idea of what that could look like. I'd also suggest removing the link to the list of translations at the bottom - it's very obsolete. — PyTom (talk) 16:48, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2016 Sources

To help out anyone interested in further improving the article (and thank you for what's been done so far):

[12] a relatively long intro article with code examples. — PyTom (talk) 14:55, 21 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[13] is a German-language academic article. There's about half a page on Ren'Py. — PyTom (talk) 17:25, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]