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Eggs

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about wikipedia

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Lust

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Empathy

I am having the ambivalent thought about my action of responding to all of the sections you all have added. My section would be about empathy. This is why it is ambivalent.

I want to be able to understand what all of you are seeing and feeling, and I am sure it is retroactive. But to make actions based on irrational thought (i.e. jumping to conclusions because you are unable to empathize) I feel is a complete travesty. I want to illuminate this point to the select group of people who will read this. But I have mixed feelings about it. I have selected all of my typed words, deleted them, and retyped them over and over again due to my insecurity about saying what I am saying.

Everybody has their emotions. And everybody needs to express them. This is something I understand. But when I see these chain reactions, not just on these specific pages but also on facebook, youtube, and whatever else, it just makes me sick. First off, it is not even clear whether or not anybody at all cares remotely about what we have to say. But that is irrelevant because most people are sociopaths when it comes to presumptions. Or most people just do whatever they want.

Granted that people may indeed want to listen to you, there is an almost 0% chance that anybody reading what you have typed actually understands what you have written to the point where they can make an intelligible reaction. I, in this comment, am not even reacting to what you all have written. I did not even read it. I just saw what the template was, and decided to post this for all to read. I think that in the end of it all, everybody says that they do not care what people think of what they may or may not type on this emotion wikipedia page. But I am not saying this for me. I am saying this for all of you. (This is probably not true, I am just trying very hard to illuminate a point, so I may say whatever my subconscious tricks me into saying.)

Everybody does this as well. They say that it is not for them. It is out of their hands. Well I may be saying this for me. But I do not know.

What I do know is that empathy and complete understanding is impossible. The irony of this page makes me very uncomfortable, but I still want to share that with people. So now I have these conflicting thoughts, a sort of constant state of cognitive dissonance.

I love it. I hate it.

Why do we do anything? We are all alone. Black is white to somebody else, but what they see as "white", they call "black". Everything is a series of coincidences, misplacements, and rash decisions without the input of anybody.

I am suffering from a severe case of major depression. So I want more than anybody else to be able to give help and to get help. But as it stands there is no recognition or proof of anything of the sort.

Am I typing in gibberish? An illiterate person might think so. The idea of knowledge is useless. It is used to deceive ourselves into thinking we are making a difference or that there is a connection.

There isn't.

207.172.133.144 (talk) 15:57, 17 May 2008 (UTC) Adam[reply]

Talk pages are no blog, or forum and should be used for practical suggestions for improvement of wikipedia. Can you give a brief explanation why this is relevant for the improvement of this template? Arnoutf (talk) 17:02, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Zest

Wouldn't Zest be consider as an emotion? To take interest in something seems like an emotion to me. Could be wrong, which is why I wanted to talk about it not just edit it. xD —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])

Probably Zest is not an emotion. Please provide a reference from a scientific journal to support inclusion. Arnoutf (talk) 17:36, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Add coherence/heirarchy?

1) Not all of the things on this list are emotions according to their pages, for example: depression/despair is a mood/medical condition, which the article on emotion itself says is not the same thing distrust maybe could be but its page isn't about it as an emotion hope is an emotional state (according to the article about it), not an emotion in itself hostility is a response to emotion, not an emotion hurt/pain and shock are physiological responses shyness is a personality trait

2) The template is too long to be optimally useful unless it is structured: for example, have a section which just lists the six "basic" emotions for starters, then below that split between positive and negative emotions, then another level of grouping (i.e. worry, terror, panic, anxiety, and angst are all in a "fear" family)

Making those changes (especially the second) would make all emotion articles more useful, which is important given that "emotion" is a vital c-class article.

Mynameisntbob1 (talk) 07:43, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please do, I agree this is an unwieldy mess... However, editors think they can basically dump everything they like into templates, and erroneously consider templates exempted from core Wikipedia guidelines like WP:OR and WP:RS. I have tried to clean this one up a few years ago, but have abandoned that at that time as for every non-emotions I removed, other editors added three others within days.

I did manage to keep the (less used) Template:Emotion-footer somewhat coherent, but even there editors do not care about sourcing, about changing sourced lists to things that are in no way related to source etc etc. Efforts to list this template as unsources (using the fact tag) where quickly removed as people felt offended that each and every page that included the (unsourced information of the) template became automatically listed as having unsourced information (although that is of course the case), so apparently red flagging messy templates is (or at least was) a no-go area; making quality management of templates like these a nightmare (to put it mildly).

Perhaps finally the time is here to start bringing some quality to the template wildwest of Wikipedia. Arnoutf (talk) 13:22, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose that the item "Dread" in this template should be removed

As it is actually redirected to the article "Fear".Huhu9001 (talk) 16:38, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The use of "hysterical" in this context is offensively sexist.

As well as duplicative. Panic, rage, and fear ought to cover it. It redirects to a very poorly written article that is also duplicative. The history of the psychological theory is covered elsewhere (and it is not an "emotion", it is a crackpot theory from over a century ago.).— Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])

Thanks. But don't hope too much it will not be re-added. For some reason much of the reliable source discussions seem to bypass template space, and original research in the form of implied synthesis by adding stuff to template lists appears accepted and even actively promoted practice fortemplates. Arnoutf (talk) 09:48, 27 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]