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Meyn

Hi RHaworth, last Friday I submitted a new Wikipedia article for review (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Meyn) and I noticed it has been entirely deleted by you. Looking at the deletion log it shows a G12: copyright infringement related to a reference used for the article. Could you please let me know what I should change before submitting the page for a second opinion? Thanks for your time. With the advice I hope to get my article approved, I have spent a lot of time on it and did quite a lot of research in the area I live, which is where this company was founded and contributed to the majority of employment, which, as result, developed arts, sports, and so on. A noteworthy company not only for the area, but also internationally as it is the leader for poultry processing, a primary protein for humankind with the lowest CO2 footprint. Dotsonti Let's Talk! 13:28, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Heavy metal

"Kindly wait until somebody with no COI thinks your government is strong and stable and writes about them here!"

You have deleted the portal Portal:Heavy metal with a summary that described it as an abandoned draft. Was that a mistake? — Cambalachero (talk) 02:45, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

That was the Theresa May answer. The answer you wanted, Cambalachero, is that yes it was an error and RHaworth has restored it. — Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:29, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
I don't see in the edit history or page log that I ever edited this page. Liz Read! Talk! 02:44, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Teresa May is a retired soft porn actress..... ;-) [1]. — Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:53, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Terrorist incidents in Pakistan in 2019

Hey Roger, why have you (presumably?) deleted the actual Wiki page on Terrorist incidents in Pakistan in 2019 and moved it to User:BukhariSaeed/terrorist_incidents_in_Pakistan_in_2019? Looked like a well-sourced page just like Terrorist incidents in Pakistan in 2018 and every year all the way back to 2001. There are more terrorist attacks in 2019 that need to be added. I don't think this should simply be suppressed. -- Trickipaedia (talk) 05:33, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Here is the original page [2] . --Trickipaedia (talk) 05:34, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

  • Please explain why you left the second message when you had already provided a link in the proper format. Please read the footnote in this notice. "You (presumably?)". Find out how to read the deletion log and come back and tell me (confidently) who did the deletion. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:13, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Please undelete my sandbox

Please undelete my sandboxes as I only use them for today because the wikipedia in Italian is blocked. Tomorrow morning I will empty them and transfer the Italian language to wikipedia. Thanks for understanding.-- Burgundo (talk) 21:06, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, I received the data by email.-- Burgundo (talk) 06:55, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Refund

When you were cleaning up Not Active and County State-Aid Highway 21 (Polk County, Minnesota), you deleted Not Active2 as well. That one should be undone and moved back to County State-Aid Highway 3 (Pennington County, Minnesota). –Fredddie™ 22:38, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Grow Heathrow

Hello regarding your comment here where would do i put the draft for the new article? If there's a process i haven't been able to find it. Thanks! Mujinga (talk) 08:52, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the friendly welcome back! I'm not sure what your reference to wikilinks means at all, that's how we got to this point. Draft space appears to be a 2017 innovation which has passed me by, thanks for pointing it out. In actual fact whilst waiting for you to reply i read Listing is not necessary if you just want to replace a redirect with an article, or change where it points so the official policy seems to be just to edit the page itself. Confusing huh? Imagine if i was newbie, i think i would have been discouraged already, it took me 2 days to see why the redirect was not speedy deleted. Wikipedia is getting more arcane. And I do wonder why people don't assume good faith any more. —Mujinga (talk) 12:11, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

  • Mujinga, humble apologies: I am so used to seeing horrors such as this that when I saw external link format in your message, I automatically assumed it was similar. But it was a link to an history report which, of course, has to be in that format. My wikilinks link was to show you what a wikilink looks like but I now realise that you are fully aware of that. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:02, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Oh OK not to worry. Thanks for your reply! I've just gone ahead and made Draft:Grow Heathrow. — Mujinga (talk) 16:39, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Ah great, thanks for the pagemove! — Mujinga (talk) 16:55, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Deleted Page

Hello RHaworth, I was notified you opted to remove the content I prepared for Ink (technology company) as you deemed it to be advertising or promotion. My intent was to provide information about a company of interest in Silicon Valley and Lincoln, Nebraska. Would you kindly cite which portions of the article you construed as promotional? Thank you very much. All my best, Svtecheditor01 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Svtecheditor01 (talk • contribs) 11:14, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

George Amos Poole

You recently deleted this as a copy of https://sites.rootsweb.com/~syafam/randdestxt3.htm#Poole3-1843 but I am not seeing the similarity, at least in the last version I can find on Google cache. Could you elaborate please? Was there an alternative to deletion such as changing to an earlier version? Philafrenzy (talk) 19:07, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

I can see the deleted versions and every revision is more or less a copy and paste of that rootsweb article. There is no suitable version to roll back to, so G12 is correct. I would have deleted this as well for the same reason. — Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:11, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Are you sure they didn't copy us? What was the offending text? Was it me that added it? Philafrenzy (talk) 19:51, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Just noticed it's back. Philafrenzy (talk) 19:54, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Deleted Page

Hi! You recently deleted a page I had created that was flagged for Speedy Deletion, this page, just a few hours after I made a few modifications that addressed the main issues. Can you elaborate, please? The article was recently rewritten to resemble the neutral tone found in the wiki page of a almost identical service, Anime News Network, which is also under 'advertising or promotion' but doesn't have any similar flags. Is it possible to have a copy for future amendments? Thank you. ^^ — Preceding unsigned comment added by DmJapan (talk • contribs) 19:59, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Done. I will create the draft as soon as I get the email and let you know when and if it is accepted. — DmJapan (talk· contribs) 10:15, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Still a noob. I'll get better, i guess. ^^ — DmJapan (talk· contribs) 19:01, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Deletion?

You've deleted the JohnnyTerris https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Johnny_Terris draft for copyright on the imdb, a bio I which I wrote myself on the imdb for the artist. Why did you not just ask first before removing all the work on wiki that I did for this page? Now it's all gone and I have to redo the whole thing over again, apparently in a different bio to make it eligible. seriously, why would you do that? Such a waste of time to do all that work to have it instantly gone, without even asking or discussion with the creator of the page first. Do you even have the saved draft at all that you can possible email me so I don't have to do all that work again from scratch? It would be greatly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasonmaceachran (talk • contribs) 20:51, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Any time you write something for Wikipedia, you are told "Content that violates any copyrights will be deleted." There is no need for that IMDB page to say anything about copyright for us to infer that its content is copyright; but as it happens, the page reminds the reader "Copyright © 1990-2019 IMDb.com, Inc." The material was and is copyright; its deletion in Wikipedia was entirely proper. Beyond that, the very first sentence of your draft was promotional. Also, an earlier article on Terris was deleted as the result of a discussion about his notability. The person who judged the arguments pro and con and deleted the article was Xymmax; if you believe that Terris is more notable in 2019 than he was in 2015, then you should start by persuading Xymmax of this. -- Hoary (talk) 11:55, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

His notability has been in question for a long time and, to put it bluntly, is ridiculous. He was on Wikipedia for 10 years before someone vandalized his wiki page, who lied by telling wiki that he 'wrote it himself' and editors from Wiki brought it upon themselves to delete his page for whatever reason. Looking at the discussions, it was very clear it was vandalism and a very biased decision. He is more notable than some people on here who are still here without any hitch whatsoever. Some with no references or credibility at all. He has many references and is easily googled. Is wikipedia a website that blindly believes any random troll on the Internet coming in and lying about a Wiki page, or are they a website run by intelligent people that actually look at the facts, references and situations provided without bias? And RHaworth, thank you. There is no need to be rude here. Nobody was rude or disrespectful to you. I just asked why you deleted it so quickly without any warning or any discussion whatsoever. A civil discussion would be the mature and respectful thing to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasonmaceachran (talk • contribs) 19:49, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Here are 2 photos of proof that his wiki was vandalized and lied about: https://pasteboard.co/I7yH4AP.jpg https://pasteboard.co/I7yHG6S.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasonmaceachran (talk • contribs) 20:20, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

I just re-wrote the bio and re-posted the draft. I hope it is correct. Please let me know. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasonmaceachran (talk • contribs) 20:44, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

@Jasonmaceachran: "There is no need to be rude here. Nobody was rude or disrespectful to you. I just asked why you deleted it so quickly without any warning or any discussion whatsoever. A civil discussion would be the mature and respectful thing to do." I'm mulling over starting a follow up to this ANI thread from last year which was closed as "RHaworth has acknowleged the communication issues" and yet here we are about a year later with exactly the same issues; the reason I'm not inclined to is because a) RHaworth did apologise to one of the guys who almost quit Wikipedia because of him b) I think he's a nice guy (despite being an incompetent admin, in my opinion) c) as a direct result of b), it is stupid and foolish to file ANI threads on fellow editors because you're annoyed at them, and most importantly d) it's not nicknamed the WP:Dramaboard for no reason. — Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:37, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

User talk:Ritchie333 Well even though I see that RHaworth tends to be delete happy, I don't necessarily think he needs to have another discussion opened up about him, I just wish that he would have asked me about the page first, before deleting all my work on it. I'm a very easy going guy, it's fine. Trying to get this page up though has been like pulling teeth that won't come loose. A page that has already been here for 10 years and lied and vandalized about (which I've shown proof of above). The people who did it were clearly a bunch of Tumblr kids who went on a full out attack on him for whatever reason. And for whatever reason, the attack continued on Wiki with the editors who believed them or something. I really don't see the big issue with putting it back up. There are more than enough references and notability proof and he's been here for over 10 years already without an issue until that happened. He's been in he industry since 1987. As for RHayworth, like I said, no big deal. I just re-posted a new Wiki read and re-submitted. It's all good! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasonmaceachran (talk • contribs)

  • The two image to which you linked don't prove anything in my view. "Correct" is a strange word to use. All Wikipedia articles must of course be factually accurate. But factually accuracy is not sufficient to make an acceptable article. We will see how your new draft fares. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:08, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

RHaworth: In your view, that's fine; you're more than entitled to your opinon. The photos clearly show a thread attacking him and one of them saying that he's purposely going to screw with his wikipedia and another stating in the comments that they need to "readact him from the annals" (meaning wiki, net etc). The original discussions and edits on his page that was here for years actually show vandalism from these people and even another editor on Wiki agreed with that. If that isn't proof of purposeful vandalism, I don't know what is. Please let me know when this can be resolved and the page can go public, it's really been going on long enough. Thank you, I appreciate it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasonmaceachran (talk • contribs) 22:19, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Common attributes, not R3

Would you mind restoring Common attributes? If the redirect was due to a page move, R3 only applies if the moved page was recently created, which Common Attributes was not. CC Daiyusha ~ Amory (u • t • c) 19:31, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Amorymeltzer. I saw a total of 3 pages existing: a. Common Attributes b. Common attributes c. Draft:Common Attributes.
Page a had content. c pointed to b and b pointed to a. I wanted to move 'a' to draft(c). And i found 'b' as well since the draft pointed to it. Just putting it out there as to clear out any confusion. Daiyusha (talk) 01:56, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Amory Restored per request. — Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:23, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of PONT Group

Hello RHaworth- My page the PONT Group was deleted before I had the chance to confirm that I am not employed by PONT Group and have no connection to them. I have amended the article and would like the chance to reupload it please. — LennyBunko (talk) 11:29, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Request to undelete page

The page is Sophia Stewart. I see that this page used to be an article page. I'm not interested in making it an article. However, it does deserve to be a redirect page. A search on Wikipedia for Sophia Stewart does not redirect to the The Matrix (franchise) article page, but there is a section "Legal claims" within the article that provides details of her lawsuit. Participants in the 2009 discussion Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sophia Stewart, that led to the article deletion, do not appear to have mentioned making the article into a redirect page. — Mitchumch (talk) 14:39, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

It never occurred to me create the redirect. I'm used to seeing those messages and asking the last admin to restore it. Thanks. Mitchumch (talk) 22:13, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia page for university chancellor

I am trying to create a page for the chancellor of the university I work for (at his request), University of Missouri-Kansas City. I've submitted a couple of drafts, but they've all been deleted because he wants me to use language I've used before when I wrote his bio (I submitted a request to have that bio page placed in Wikipedia's common source). In my attempt to try again this morning, after re-writing, the name of the page I want it to be (the name of the chancellor) has been blocked. What are my options for naming a new page for review? — Bridget BKoan (talk) 15:52, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

@BKoan: Unfortunately, we have had to delete Draft:C. Mauli Agrawal, Ph.D. as it was copied entirely from another website. Copyrights on Wikipedia have a specific meaning; in a nutshell you need to write things in your own words, otherwise they have to be deleted for legal reasons. User:Ritchie333/Plain and simple guide to copyvios has further reading. (I'm not listening to excuses from Haworth any more, it took me 5 seconds to find the page title, so to complain about it, as he would undoubtedly do so, smacks of pure laziness) I have rewritten the article, adding two reliable sources to demonstrate WP:PROF and informed the author. — Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:27, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
  • "A proven leader, Agrawal is an esteemed educator" is not the way we start a Wikipedia article. "He wants me to use language". The subject of a bio is the last person we consult when considering the wording of the bio! Ritchie's new version is an object lesson in the sort of stuff we expect. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:08, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Main problem

Hi RHaworth, today I submitted a new Wikipedia article for review and I noticed it has been entirely deleted by you. Looking at the deletion log it shows a G12: copyright infringement related to a reference used for the article. Could you please let me know what I should change before submitting the page for a second opinion? Thanks for your time. With the advice I hope to get my article approved, I have spent a lot of time on it and did quite a lot of research in the area I live, which is where this company was founded and contributed to the majority of employment here, which, as result, developed the art, sports, and so on. A noteworthy company not only for the area, but also internationally as it is the leader for poultry processing, a primary protein for humankind with the lowest CO2 footprint. — Dotsonti Let's Talk! 15:56, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Vera Micaelsen

You deleted this as I was in mid-revert. This is not a valid WP:G7 as the creator, Geschichte (talk · contribs) has made no indication that they wish to delete the page or blanked it. — Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:25, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion candidate

I know you handle a lot of speedies, so I was hoping you'd know if User:Zahra 1369/sandbox is eligible under U5 (or something). The user is a sockmaster whose multiple sock accounts keep getting globally locked for repeated recreation of self-promotional articles. This specific sandbox holds a draft of an article subsequently created in mainspace and deleted at AfD (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aryan Star), but the draft predates the deletion discussion so it's not a recreation, and it doesn't have article wizard or AfC templates so I'm hesitant to label it as an abandoned draft. I was thinking U5. Is that valid? Thanks in advance, and no worries if you don't have time for this. — Bakazaka (talk) 22:05, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) It doesn't meet WP:G13 (annoyingly) as it's not in draft space or an AfC submission, it doesn't meet WP:U5 as it looks like a sincere attempt to write an article, it doesn't meet WP:G11 as it's innocuous enough in terms of prose, it's not obviously WP:G12, and the jury's out on it being a hoax so WP:G3's out too. Send it to MfD. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 22:13, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Emotional Speech Blocks Deletion Syndrome

[Title width guide. Delete above here if no further edits - already in archive. If further edits, move below here.]

Hey, man. Why did you delete my draft of the West of Scotland Amateur Cup for copyright? The page was mostly a straight copy from that website because it is a list of teams who won the cup. I can't exactly change the team names, can I? — A warm glass of shut the hell up (talk) 16:18, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Speedied CAD layer name redirects

Hi Roger, I'm sorry to bother you, but you recently deleted a bunch of redirects created by me, which were nominated for speedy deletion. The reason incorrectly given in the nomination by the nominator was WP:R3 "impausible typo or misnomer", which, however, does not apply, as these are neither typos nor misnomers, and also not implausible. The names may look a bit strange to someone not familiar with the corresponding CAD tools (like the nominator), but these redirects are in fact standard terms and abbreviations used in the industry for the CAD layers presenting the solder stop and solder paste/cream mask information discussed in the corresponding target articles. New users of EDA tools such as EAGLE, TARGET or Protel are typically not fully accustomed to how their designs are actually presented in transfer file formats (like Gerber files) or how PCBs are actually produced technically, and consequential often mix up these names. Therefore, I created the redirects so that users running into these terms in PCB design and production will be directed to articles explaining the subject and giving background information. This is one of the very purposes of redirects per WP:RPURPOSE, making such redirects even desirable. Therefore, please undelete them:

Thanks for your time. -- Matthiaspaul (talk) 18:32, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

@Matthiaspaul: (talk page stalker) pinging @GB fan, who tagged the redirects for deletion. --DannyS712 (talk) 18:34, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
  • They may be standard terms in the industry but are they notable outside the industry. If you can persuade GB fan to ask me to restore them, I will do so. If you recreate them yourself, I will not touch them. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:14, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
EAGLE and even more so TARGET are EDA tools still affordable enough (in some versions) to be in common use among hobbyists and in the education, not only in the professional world. By "industry" I meant both.

Per our established guidelines for redirects (WP:REDIR), redirects do not need to be "notable", they just need to be useful to some of our potential audience (and not conflictive by name with other stuff). Anyway, as a courtesy here is an ad-hoc reference by a large European printed circuits board manufacturer [3] describing these terms as standard layers: "Beispiele für Standardlayer für Schablonendaten: EAGLE: tCream, bCream. Target: PasteTop, PasteBot. Protel: GTP, GTB". [Translation: Examples for standard layers for stencil mask data.] Many more references including the manuals of these tools could be used as further proof, but I don't think this is necessary, as this is an obvious case both on a factual level but also on the procedural one. These redirects should never have been nominated for speedy deletion per R3 in the first place because this criterium does not apply to them. I as much as anyone else knows that GB fan as the nominator is responsible for the deletions (per WP:BEFORE), not you. But he insists on that he did not actually delete the redirects and asked me to ask you as the one who deleted them technically. -- Matthiaspaul (talk) 16:09, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Here is what I think, User talk:GB fan#Speedy deleted redirects and mess created on user page. Short answer, I do not believe they are appropriate and believe they meet the intent of WP:R3. ~ GB fan 10:48, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

WP:REFUND request

Hello RH: please restore all the Portal: subpages you deleted via WP:CSD G6. Since there are now assessments as to whether the single-page or multi-page versions are better for the encyclopedia, the only way these assessments can proceed is if the subpages are restored. Thanks in advance, UnitedStatesian (talk) 02:25, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

  • No, only the ones that are subpages, and only those that were speedily deleted because of reason G6. BUT unfortunately I need you to go all the way back, not just those you deleted in the last month. Thanks! UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:53, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
I pu the list at User talk:UnitedStatesian/Portal REFUND/RHaworth. All the parent portal pages still exist. Thanks again! UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:09, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Request for undeletion / G13

Hi, I am requesting the undeletion of the Draft:Sebastian Hilli. I would like to edit the page and restore it. — Cupidsgraa (talk) 17:08, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

os and Toolforge Trusty deprecation

Hello,

Many thanks for your work on the Ordnance Survey links. Have you seen that the system running the os service group has been shut down: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/News/Toolforge_Trusty_deprecation ?

Example of link that no longer works: https://tools.wmflabs.org/os/coor_g/?pagename=Portree&params=NG483454_region%3AGB_scale%3A25000

Best wishes, Colin. --CreagNamBathais (talk) 19:39, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Speedy delete

You deleted an article I created for Mathieu Amiot. I specified that I was waiting for their review. I checked their copy right and it states that the biographies can be copied and recreated for non-commercial use.

Please undelete the page Jlastowski (talk) 21:15, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Speedy Delete

Hi, I noticed you've recently deleted my draft page for 'The Impact of Hollywood on Australian Cinema. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:The_Impact_Of_Hollywood_On_Australian_Cinema&action=edit&redlink=1. Another user moved it to a draft space where they said it was acceptable to edit and construct my article free from interruption. I am a university student and am completing this page as a part of a project. Can you please clarify why my draft was deleted? Thanks. Dunf10 (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dunf10 (talk • contribs) 00:29, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Looking in, Dunf10, there was no substantial content. Just make it again when you have enough material to start off with. DGG ( talk ) 01:09, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Can you restore

Category:1896 establishments in Lithuania you've deleted a while ago - I've populated it. More entries will come eventually. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:20, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Delete content

hi I need my content my mail ozrenos@gmail.com Question can you send me example how to put my content and football cariere online on wikipedia. And one more thing everithing that i wrote how can i confirm to you because in my contetnt everithing is true and you think diferently. Or there is another way to make wikipedia normal biography page? Can you help me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teiros (talk • contribs) 10:28, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

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