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dear Primefac, thank you for your reply, i suppose i did what you recommend me now and waiting the result. as i'm a beginner on this and need time to start understanding the process. meanwhile stay safe :)

2 draft articles for Yacht Club in Lebanon

Dear Primefac (talk Kindly note that i followed your instructions sent on my talk page on March 30 and have created 2 separate drafts one for Beirut yacht club : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Beirut_Yacht_Club and one for Lebanese yacht club: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lebanese_Yacht_Club and have placed the reference properly, can you please check them when you have time and revert with your feedback. as later on i will create a category will name it "yacht clubs in Lebanon" or "Oldest Yacht Club in Lebanon" and will list them there... much appreciated your feedback as i am still learning in this phase all about wiki Thank you in advance and hope you are safe and home. Peace. Princesse Marissa (talk) 08:32, 8 April 2020 (UTC)Princesse Marissa[reply]

MFD

Hi Primefac, Given this yesterday I would assume the MFD was serious ?, Either way I support your closure but just felt I should point the link out, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 17:31, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'm starting to think that it is a serious nom, but given the timing I'd rather be sure; no harm in having it closed until things get sorted. Primefac (talk) 17:34, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@PCHS-NJROTC: * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:42, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It was serious, but it looks like WP:SNOW territory to me anyway, whether you choose to reopen it is up to you. PCHS-NJROTC ^{(Messages)Have a blessed day.} 21:33, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think there's an important distinction between serious nominations, even ones that ended in snow keep, and April Fools nominations. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:57, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template cases coronavirus pandemic

Just wanted to sincerely thank you for your help on this template. MattSucci (talk) 19:19, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You're very welcome, was my pleasure :-) Primefac (talk) 19:33, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	Thanks for the improvements in the COVID cases template. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:40, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Primefac (talk) 01:59, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

rounded million

4 votes to 2 votes, isn't that a consensus? I'm assuming 4 to 3 because you're against as well? This is the better typographic format for running text... Feelthhis (talk) 15:48, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I genuinely have no opinion. My read of the consensus is 3-3: you, Doc, and Ythlev for, Matt, Dekimasu, and US Man against (note that USM is only in favour when it hits 10 million). Primefac (talk) 15:51, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

?? personally I think it looks better as "1.02 million" in running text. This is what Dekimasu said Feelthhis (talk) 15:53, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

They also point out MOS:NUMERAL claim, which brings a level of formality to it; generally speaking a pretty strong consensus is needed to overturn the MOS. Primefac (talk) 16:12, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

^{[citation needed]} :)Feelthhis (talk) 16:16, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The other argument to make is that the discussion has been open for only a little bit over 24 hours; it's not the end of the world to have it sit for another 24 to see if anyone else has an opinion. Maybe even a note dropped at WP:VPP? Primefac (talk) 16:19, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why so much resistance... never mind. Thanks for the template btw. Feelthhis (talk) 16:28, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a crat, it's what I'm paid to do: evaluate consensus. There's a lot of "meh" and I'd like to see a bit more of a consensus. Primefac (talk) 16:31, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Bureaucratship Anniversary!

Wishing Primefac a very happy bureaucratship anniversary on behalf of the Birthday Committee! CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 00:42, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Primefac (talk) 01:36, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sex (Cheat Codes and Kris Kross Amsterdam song)

Hi Primefac--do you know where that weird, red comment in note 45 comes from ("type, position, AND certweek ARE REQUIRED FOR SWEDISH CERTIFICATIONS AFTER 2011.")? I think it's related to Template:Certification Table Entry, but I'm not sure. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 13:09, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In a word, yes. The template needs the week/year of certification in order to properly form the URL. I fixed it. Primefac (talk) 13:27, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Drmies (talk) 21:26, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Marcia Pally

The material that you removed as "unsourced" concerns matters that are "notorious", although not of the type that would be covered by the newspapers, even though widely known. The subject's engagement was anounced publcly, her fiance was introduced to the congregation, and the issue of granting him synagogue honors was publicly and hotly debated. Several of the subjects heterosexual relationships are also publicly known, as two of the subject's male partners in the 1990s were well-known scholars and members of the Ansche Chesed congregation. Pally's seven-year relationship to a member of the congregation (a rabbi) in the 2000s was also very public. For example, the subject and her partner presented themelves as partners in public, sat together in the synagogue, attended public events as a couple, were invited to weddings as a couple, and sent holiday cards as a couple. PaulKovnick — Preceding unsigned comment added by PaulKovnick (talk • contribs) 13:53, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

PaulKovnick, please read through WP:V, or at the very least the "in a nutshell" summary at the top. Everything on Wikipedia, especially for biographies of living persons, needs references. There are only a very small number of exceptions. This is not one of them. If there is no reference, it should not be included. Primefac (talk) 13:56, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the clarification. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PaulKovnick (talk • contribs) 14:00, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Primefac

You are the biggest fool whoever you are. Cheeky creature. Adolf bijili (talk) 06:30, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you blok me

Mr.primefac akdu men Adolf bijili (talk) 11:45, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've left no less than half a dozen notices on your talk page, and we've had this discussion at least a dozen times. If you don't know why you've been blocked, then you will most definitely stay blocked. Primefac (talk) 12:09, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You have written an article here, you are giving Badrinarayan's name, you are absolutely wrong, if anyone writes the wrong thing, then you will accept it without reasoning.

Sources of vision and contemplation are absent without literature. This feeling, along with the growing urge to construct an assertive identity and the sense of being deprived of history, led the Pasi community towards the invention of heroes, histories and myths and their documentation in the print medium.[7] Adolf bijili (talk) 12:55, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can i talk u personal

Please give me provide your email ID or number then i will talk with you

Adolfbijili@Gmail.com Say me hai Adolf bijili (talk) 13:15, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'd prefer to keep this conversation on-wiki. Primefac (talk) 13:18, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pasi Wikipedia is wrong

You are responsible for presenting false information about the Pasi caste. You are spreading confusion in the world. A case will be made against you.

The information given on Wikipedia is read by the whole world.
And the whole world believes the truth after reading the information here. Confusion is being created in the minds of people towards the Pasi caste. If you cannot define a Pasi caste, do not write wrong things about it. For centuries, the Pasi caste has been known by the name of Raja, Soldier and Chowkidar, the army of Topchi Nawab.  But you and some leftist and right-wing historians are denigrating the Pasi caste as a boar. When the word Dalit is not written in our Constitution and the word Dalit is banned in our country, then how is it that you have called the Pasi caste as Dalit? Do not discredit our caste because of the dirty politics of the country. There is more casteism in our country.  If you are doing this, we will consider you as racist. Adolf bijili (talk) 13:56, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The case has been made and thoroughly refuted. Primefac (talk) 14:01, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wat do you think about pasi caste

What do you think about the Pasi caste that you are not correcting Wikipedia.? Adolf bijili (talk) 14:55, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think there are certain individuals who want to pretend some parts of history never happened. I think those individuals should not be able to put their biased opinions on Wikipedia. Primefac (talk) 15:09, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And according to me, there are some people who pretend to be true of Wikipedia. Adolf bijili (talk) 17:18, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You are racist and racist because I do not understand how some people can sell their faith for money Adolf bijili (talk) 17:21, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That is more than enough of that. One more stupid baseless accusation of racism and you will be blocked indefinitely. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:25, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahir

See the Wikipedia of Ahir caste.

1. ethmology 2. History 3. Subdivision 4. distribution 5.culter

Look at the Wikipedia of the Ahir caste, the way you have divided them into five parts and the way they have been well-distributed. I want you to disburse the Pasi caste in that way. Adolf bijili (talk) 17:39, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, Primefac, this editor has now been blocked indef. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:43, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for taking care of that. Primefac (talk) 18:58, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template-linking templates

I see that you've moved some of the template-linking templates( {{tn}} to {{Template link with linked braces}} etc.). Although I've recently complained about how complex this system of templates is, and their new titles certainly make it clear what their function is, I don't think renaming them is a good idea. The more philosophical consideration, and one with which some people will disagree, is that inline formatting templates should have short names – that's the whole point of their existence. More pragmatically, they functions chiefly as typing aids, so whatever their current titles, people will continue to use the short redirects, so we will all have to eventually learn both the old and the new names. This sort of newly added complexity is also readily apparent on the template pages themselves: the templates might have been moved but they're still referred to using their older names in their own documentation and in the documentation of other templates. – Uanfala (talk) 20:31, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There was a very (very) large debate when {{interlanguage link multi}} was merged into {{interlanguage link}}. The crux of the argument was whether {{interlanguage link}} or {{ill}} should be used as the "base" template; everyone and their mother uses {{ill}} but it's not an intuitive name. In the end the "full name" version won out, but I'd guess 90% of the uses are still {{ill}}.

I've been debating these templates for a while now, and I've come to the same conclusion. Everyone (and their mother) will continue using the shortcuts, but if I click on {{tlp}} I should know immediately from the page name that it's {{template link with parameters}}. Hell, I expect people to still use the shortcut names, but I also want newer editors to be able to quickly learn what they "mean". My eventual plan is to re-do the documentation so that it runs from a central page (with appropriate examples on each template) so that it's a lot more obvious which templates should/could be used in which location. But to circle back to the original point, the names should be clear to anyone visiting the template without having to decipher the documentation. Primefac (talk) 20:52, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy notice

Hi Primefac - As I mentioned in our dialogue on the AfC participants page, I am trying to find out about policies on the topics I raised with you. I am not disputing your decision. I am not complaining about you, or anything along those lines. You obviously work very hard on continuously improving Wikipedia and I respect all you have done and continue to do. I simply wanted you to know what I'm doing since I referenced our discussion in my query at the help desk. Best regards - Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) (I'm a man—traditional male pronouns are fine.) 02:22, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note. Primefac (talk) 13:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You are most welcome. ¶ I received some very helpful advice over at the Help Desk. Here is my concluding remark at the help desk: "You all have provided me with the most important information I needed, namely "Where do I go from here?" As I noted above, I will follow Girth Summit's advice, i.e., I'll gain some experience conducting AfC reviews and after a few months, I'll start a discussion about these interrelated topics on the AfC talk page." - All the best - Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) (I'm a man—traditional male pronouns are fine.) 15:54, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Revdel request

It appears that the many edits in Jennifer Hudson needs revdelling. I'm referring to the dozens of edits that I've rollbacked but missed Bongwarrior's revdelling. Cheers, Eumat114 formerly The Lord of Math (Message) 14:30, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Primefac (talk) 14:39, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A wee rant

Not targeting you specifically, you just happen to be active in AfC and have OS permissions. I've been reviewing EF 964 from the backend for several months and continue to find many instances of reviewers declining requests with oversightable material in them. I know I sound like a broken record, but is there no way to really impress upon AfC reviewers that BLP applies across the project and blatant violations should be removed upon sight when declining drafts? And that drafts/sandboxes like this (seriously?!) should be reported to Oversight? -- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 19:35, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I know it's an issue, and I know there are a few reviewers who are good about notifying us, but I do agree that a reminder may be in order. It's likely that the best (only?) good way to get in touch with everyone is to send a mass message to all of the reviewers, since not everyone checks WT:AFC. Might even spur some folks into reviewing some articles... Primefac (talk) 22:51, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Is this the correct way to remove WP:CSD notices?

I have found Mamak railway station and Cebeci railway station unsuitable and tagged a WP:CSD WP:A1. But an editor User:Phil Bridger is removing the tag and saying this User talk:Amkgp#Cebeci railway station and Mamak railway station, which is quite rude in nature. Is this the correct way to remove WP:CSD notices?

Previously, User:Phil Bridger did similar thing User talk:Amkgp#Accueil, but being new I did not oppose? You can verify from page history, he reverts speedy deletion notice without proper reason. Please help. Thank you. Amkgp (talk) 07:32, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Amkgp, I can understand the tone Phil used when he contacted you. First off, those articles (and a few of the other nominations I've seen you make) should never have been marked as A1. A1 means "no context" (there are a few examples at WP:A1), which means that if you open up the page and read what is in the article you would now know what it was talking about. "Mamak railway station is a railway station in Ankara, Turkey" is pretty darn clear to me. Same thing with furniture museum; at the time you speedied it the article started with "A furniture museum is a museum with exhibits relating to the history and art of furnitures." That's a pretty clear context to me.

Second, the frustration that Phil is expressing is largely due to you edit warring to add back those nominations. With very small exception if another editor removes your CSD, leave it off.

I would highly recommend you do the following:

Re-read through the WP:CSD criteria, in particular the As and Gs. Once you do so, you'll see why we almost never use A1.
Enable CSD logging (see this section, third bullet). You've only temporarily been granted NPR, but after a few mistakes now is the time to show you know what you're doing. If you can point to your CSD log and say "yes, I've made good decisions" then you're more likely to retain NPR when you re-apply.
Follow Phil's advice. It might have been in a tone you don't appreciate, but he is giving good advice.

While I have not really looked at your AFC history, your NPR history makes me a little concerned, so please treat your reviewing of Drafts the same as your patrolling of Articles: read through the reviewing instructions and take your time. I also encourage you to ask questions if you're not sure about things; we'd rather spend a line or two (or in this particular case, five paragraphs) preventing a small mistake than having to dig through your contribs and undo dozens of that mistake.

You've got a ways to go, but I can tell that you're trying, so keep your chin up, ask questions, you'll be just fine. Primefac (talk) 14:27, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Primefac Thank you, for clarifying everything I will follow the guidelines as advised. Amkgp (talk) 14:40, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

RFPP

You semi-protected Template:Inline cleanup tags over two years ago in response to a temporary vandalism wave. Doesn't seem to need it any longer. It's just a snippet of template documentation, which anyone should probably be able to update. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 06:58, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to argue that it's not a "temporary wave", there was a topicon hit a few days ago that caused almost 100 pages to be marked as sockpuppets. I would also say that with only two IPs ever editing that page, since it is just a snippet of template documentation that it's unlikely to have IPs needing to edit it. Primefac (talk) 13:32, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2020 March 22#Template:Infobox nuclear weapons test

This hasn't been done properly. Should I revert it? Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:48, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What, specifically, is the issue? As near as I could tell every similar param was the same, so all that was needed was copying over the new params. Primefac (talk) 21:56, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unless, of course, you're talking about the fact that I "merged" in the wrong direction, which has now been fixed. Primefac (talk) 21:58, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The wrong direction had serious side effects. It caused all of these pages to break because they used a redirect, "Template:Infobox Nuclear weapons test" instead of "Template:Infobox nuclear weapons test".
The doc page reported an error, which I have corrected.

Thanks for your swift response. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:21, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the follow-up. I'm honestly not sure how |target= got dropped from the final product, but if you think it doesn't need to be in the template then by all means we can keep it out.

For future reference, starting your message with the actual mistakes saves me a lot of time trying to figure out what I did wrong. Primefac (talk) 22:29, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question about edits

Hi Primefac, I edited a Wikipedia entry for the first time and noticed that you removed my changes. Could you explain why? Here's the article. Thanks, David

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_College — Preceding unsigned comment added by David.j.savage (talk • contribs) 21:49, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Links to "notable alumni" or other related individuals should be people who are notable according to Wikipedia, i.e. have their own Wikipedia articles. The names you added did not, so I removed them. Primefac (talk) 21:59, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Article:Saqib Iqbal Shami

Dear, Primefac can you please tell me when will this article will be patrolled because It had been in the main space since 3 to 4 days thanks have a nice day Maizbhandariya (talk) 00:24, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There are about 8000 unpatrolled pages, but they are reviewed in no particular order. It could be a couple of hours, it could be a couple of months. Primefac (talk) 00:33, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]