Talk:Navarre, Florida
Navarre, Florida was nominated as a Geography and places good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (April 21, 2020). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated. |
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Touchy-feely history, part two....
...the story about Col Wyman and his French bride is a little less chamber-of-commerce friendly; he apparently divorced her, and fatally shot her soon thereafter when she was tending a pet's grave at her old house. Anmccaff (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Anmccaff:-There were no official records or citations found that confirmed this, so it was struck from the article as a whole--Navarre0107 (talk) 17:14, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
Merger proposal (Navarre Beach)
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- As an exploratory measure, what would y'all's opinions be if the Navarre Beach were merged into the mainland Navarre page? Remember to write according to Wikipedia:Merging--Navarre0107 (talk) 15:51, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
- Merge, I would say merge, due to the fact that almost all of the information on this page is covered on the mainland Navarre page, as well as the fact that these really aren't separate communities, and are considered by the local population, to be the same town.--Navarre0107 (talk) 13:15, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
- Merge, I would say yes, Navarre Beach is largely considered to be part of Navarre anyways, so if it was kept as its own page, it should be made clear that its a neighborhood of Navarre, and not its own separate community. --RainbowIsBestPony (talk) 15:01, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- Comment Why is this being nominated for Good Article status while the merge is still ongoing? There is enough consensus here to complete the merge. I would suggest doing the merge now or removing the nomination. This currently fails the stability criteria as a merge could result in a major change to the article. AIRcorn (talk) 21:06, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
Recommended Changes to History Section
The discussions about the protests don't appear to be appropriate for the History section. They would seem to be more relevant under a Law and Government section, with a paragraph on Politics. Also, the "protests" about the Navarre sign and the HNWS were mostly objections discussed on social media. There were never any physical protest activities in the community. Florida's Most Relaxing Place would never get so upset about topics like those. :)
--SkyJumper1 (talk) 15:20, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
@SkyJumper1: Actually, there were physical protests, images of which should be located in the several citations given for each event. Also there is no Law and Government section at this time, if you want, you can create one and we could move the protest paragraph there, otherwise, I think that this is best placed in the history section. -- Navarre0107 (talk) 14:51, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Merger Proposal (Holley, Florida)
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I believe that it would be best suited for the Holley, Florida page to merge into this page. Holley is part of Navarre's Census Designated Area (edit: it appears as though I misquoted the Census term, Holley is part of Navarre's Census County Division, not Census Designated Area), Holley is part of Navarre's County Commission district, and for all intents and purposes, as it already says on the Holley, Florida page, Holley is largely seen as simply a part of Navarre already. --Navarre0107 (talk) 22:31, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
Merge: On top of what I have previously mentioned, Holley's page is quite small and there is a lot of overlap; Holley's page could possibly be better served as part of Navarre's article in the long run. --Navarre0107 (talk) 22:31, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
Oppose The Census Bureau considers Holley and Navarre to be two distinct (though adjacent) census-designated places. I'm not sure what you mean by Holley being part of Navarre's census designated area; according to official Census maps, the two are adjacent but have separate borders. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 23:42, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- @TheCatalyst31: -- My apologies, it appears as though I mixed up my census terms, looking at it, it appears as though the term is Census County Division, not Census Designated Area, but the idea is still the same, here's the definitive 2010 U.S. Census Report for Florida, on PDF page 64 (report page 30), under Santa Rosa County, it breaks down Navarre and Holley as the "Holley-Navarre CCD," an abbreviation for the Holley-Navarre Census County Division. However, even disregarding this, as Census borders have little to no legal recognition, Holley is still locally seen as part of the larger community of Navarre -- Navarre0107 (talk) 04:33, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
GA Review
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Reviewer: SounderBruce (talk · contribs) 23:53, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Will review later this week. SounderBruce 23:53, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Failed "good article" nomination
This article has failed its Good article nomination. This is how the article, as of April 21, 2020, compares against the six good article criteria:
- 1. Well written?: The tone of the article is not entirely encyclopedic, and the choice of words is all around poor. Just from the opening paragraph, there are significant issues in the way that information is presented and how it flows. The history section has too many subsections that are short and choppy. There are two unnecessary infoboxes in their own subsections, unnecessary lists in the Demographics and Education sections that would be better expressed as prose, and issues with Sentence case throughout.
- 2. Verifiable?: The citations used aren't sufficient to cover the article, as evidenced in the many paragraphs missing an inline citation. The web and news citations need to be better formatted (one still has an email address populating the author field, many are missing date information or are inconsistent about it). The Pop culture section also has a case of excessive citations.
- 3. Broad in coverage?: See below
- 4. Neutral point of view?: The article is a bit too thorough, in sounding like a visitor's guide rather than a brisk encyclopedia entry. Listing a new hotel by its brand name and spending a whole paragraph on each single attraction is also a bit much.
- 5. Stable?: There seems to be some issues brought up by IP editors that need to be resolved.
- 6. Images?: Uneven distribution, some are missing proper captions (or have long-winded ones), and the infobox image is not particularly good at representing the city.
While I commend the amount of work put in since the last GA review, it's clearly not been enough. I recommend sending this to a copyeditor at WP:GOCE and seeking the advice of more experienced editors. Keep looking for sources and try to look at other city articles for inspiration.
When these issues are addressed, the article can be renominated. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to have it reassessed. Thank you for your work so far.— SounderBruce 08:18, 21 April 2020 (UTC)