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Humble request for an article review

Hello, I humbly request you to kindly review the draft I created in my sandbox (User:Cuurentarticle/sandbox), and see if it is appropriate to be used as an article here. I would really appreciate your every suggestion regarding how to improve it further. Thanks. Cuurentarticle (talk) 09:21, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Cuurentarticle, I have one minor comment. You have included a link "Tonk district", which, as you'll see if you click on it, is not very useful. It would be better to do the link like this: "Tonk district", so that it goes to the relevant article. Maproom (talk) 09:50, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

I will add that the coordinates you've given actually pinpoint to a field in the middle of nowhere. To see where it comes out, click (this link) I suggest you use the following in your infobox: 25.891812, 76.184715 I cannot find this town anywhere nearby on Google maps. I would also like to see each statement that you make to be followed immediately by a supporting reference. And many of your numbers are over-accurate, as well as being unsourced. Don't split hectares down into smaller amounts -at least don't go beyond one decimal point, and note that you have given two different figures for agriculture, yet your only reference doesn't seem to function, so this is unverifiable. See WP:EASYREFBEGIN for a guide on how to add or reuse inline references. Nick Moyes (talk) 10:02, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

I've incorporated some of the suggestions and trying to do the other, but I wanted to know if the article okay to be used on Wikipedia now. ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cuurentarticle (talk • contribs) 13:11, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Cuurentarticle, For anyone to do anything, please ensure you have read Your First Article and followed all of the instructions in that article. Once you have completed this, there are instructions for getting it published. Once that happens, please open a new topic here in the Teahouse, and we can help you with the next steps so we can get the article up to a good article status at a minimum. Thanks, Galendalia^{Chat Me Up} 06:20, 2 May 2020 (UTC) Courtesy ping @Nick Moyes:

tracing source of quote

Problem of induction has footnotes 18 & 19 referring to 2 quotes. I can't trace either note to a page in a volume with a title. Please help. Thanks.TBR-qed (talk) 12:15, 29 April 2020 (UTC) TBR-qed (talk) 12:15, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

The quote for ref 18 is on page 38 at isbn 978-0-19-825060-9. Ref 19 doesn't refer to a quote. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:27, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi @TBR-qed: - Did this answer help you or do you need more assistance? Galendalia^{Chat Me Up} 07:00, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for asking. David's answer did the trick.TBR-qed (talk) 14:54, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

What is meant when "account created automatically"?

For the account here it says it was created "automatically" whereas for the handful i've looked at once i found how to see this there isn't the word automatically. What does that signify? For context, the user is trying to add unsourced info that another user had just tried to do as well which makes me think it's a shill of the other (although the term I guess here is sockpuppet). i've read on what to do for that, but would like to know the significance of that word automatic before taking another step. thanks. ToeFungii (talk) 14:26, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi ToeFungii. It means the account was originally created at another wiki and later created automatically here when the user viewed a page while logged in. Special:CentralAuth/Meow1224233 shows the account was created one minute earlier at the MediaWiki wiki. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:43, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

TY. I think i understand. i was hoping it would give me a strong clue whether it is a shill and don't think it does that. oh well. much appreciated for the assistance. ToeFungii (talk) 14:47, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

I think you're onto someting, ToeFungii. I was just behind PrimeHunter in looking at why that account was "created automatically"; but I did wonder why the account was created on mediawiki (but made no edits there), and then immediately came to enwiki, and started re-adding unsourced material to Kelly Oubre Jr., that was previously added by another brand new account. A third new account has repeatedly added different unsourced material to the same article recently. --ColinFine (talk) 15:13, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

@ColinFine: I've had accounts created on wikis I've never visited (like slwiki), and have heard of it happening to other users as well. Perhaps there are ways that content from other wikis gets retrieved and displayed on pages here in the context of the logged-in user. Interwiki transclusion doesn't seem to work here, but I wonder if that could cause it and, if so, if Commons supports it. Also, I think I've seen searches show content from other wikis in some cases, like maybe if there are no or few hits here. Maybe the retrieval of the preview of the foreign article can cause it? Speaking of previews, I wonder if it can be caused by mousing over an interwiki link with the default previewing tool (the one that is used if you don't have Navigation Popups enabled; NavPops itself doesn't preview interwiki links). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 19:37, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Yes, AlanM1, I've had messages from other Wikipedias, and indeed it does create you a local account when you go onto another Wiki: Special:CentralAuth/ColinFine shows 225 accounts. But it seems odd that an account would be created on www.mediawiki.org, and then edit only on en-wiki. --ColinFine (talk) 20:44, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Your account can be created automatically at a wiki if they import a page you have edited at another wiki. Importing is not enabled at slwiki so it's not the reason AlanM1 was created there. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:16, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Greetins @ToeFungii: - Did the answers help you understand? I actually just asked about this too so I got my answer as well. Tagging @Puddleglum2.0: as a courtesy as she didn’t know either! Please let me know. Galendalia^{Chat Me Up} 07:05, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

It did. Unfort it didn't help me to figure out if there was a relationship between the two accounts which become moot as a kind admin (Materialscientist) blocked them and protected the page stopping the problem. I never realized, or thought about, all the wiki's being so connected but it works so ya!! thx and tc ToeFungii (talk) 08:06, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

what way to improve

I have tagged me the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

See note at talk page.

What is another way to improve it  ? User:Mustafdesam

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, leave a comment here and prepend it with {{Re|North8000}}. And, don't forget to sign your reply with ~~~~. For broader editing help, please visit the Teahouse.

Delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.

North8000 (talk) 13:54, 29 April 2020 (UTC) Mustafdesam (talk) 15:33, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

FYI I did not put the above post here. It was copied to here by S. Gopalakrishnan. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 15:57, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

? It appears that it was posted and signed by Mustafdesam at 2020-04-29T15:33 UTC, here. It is regarding S. Gopalakrishnan (writer). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 19:54, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

@AlanM1, North8000, and Mustafdesam: - I was just checking to see if there is more discussion to be had here or can this request be closed? Galendalia^{Chat Me Up} 07:09, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

I left suggestions at the talk page of the article prior to the above. Mustafdesam, were you able to view that? Also I'm ready to help further. But from my end I have no open items or issues. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 11:23, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Sorting out a red link

Hi I am new to this and was updating Bauer Radio Limited (The Breeze Network) and put a Breeze station that people thought Nation Broadcasting had but Bauer Radio has it and it gave me a red link so what do i do Phil8482 (talk) 16:43, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Phil8482. The red merely means that there is no article (yet) with that name on Wikipedia to which the link can go. This might be because:

(a) an article does exist, but with a sufficiently different title that the software didn't recognise your link (and what you've tried to link is implausibly long for a Wikipedia article title), or

(b) there is no such article because no-one has written it yet.

To address the possibility of (a), you might check that your supposed station name is correct, and/or look for an article with a different but appropriate title (such as the same three areas but in a different order).

To address (b), you might yourself create a new article about this particular station (though successfully writing an article is harder than it might seem to a newcomer). Once an article (not merely a Draft) exists with the name you tried to link, the linked name in Bauer Radio will turn blue.

If none of the above answer the problem, don't worry! We sometimes leave redlinks as a signal that someone thinks an article on that subject is desirable. Since the other six Breeze Network stations listed do indeed already have articles (which is why their links are blue), it would certainly make sense to have an article on the seventh, so perhaps another editor with an interest in the subject will see the redlink and decide to create it. (As you may know, all Wikipedia editors are unpaid volunteers, so no-one can be tasked to do anything.)

I hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.121.161.127 (talk) 17:09, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

@Phil8482: Further information can be found at WP:REDLINK --Hillelfrei^{• talk •} 17:11, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, Phil8482. You inseted a link to The Breeze (East Hampshire, South West Surrey & North West Sussex), which doesn't exist, so it is red. Did you mean The Breeze (East Hampshire & South West Surrey)?: (I am far from sure that the sources in that article establish that it is notable.) By the way, I see you have been inserting information without citing sources. It is hugely preferably to cite any information you add. --ColinFine (talk) 17:16, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

How do i put in where i found my information and The Breeze (East Hampshire & South West Surrey) takes me/you to The Breeze owned by Nation Broadcasting who only have the radio licence for Southampton, Portsmouth and Winchester which Nation Broadcasting call The Breeze (South) where as The Breeze (East Hampshire & South West Surrey) is Bauer owned.Phil8482 (talk) 19:39, 29 April 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phil8482 (talk • contribs) 17:34, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

@Phil8482:

• To learn how to cite sources, consult WP:REFBEGIN.
• To link to the correct jurisdiction, use the correct disambiugator in parentheses. Please don't use run-on sentences as it makes it hard to understand what you are trying to say. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:26, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

@Phil8482: - I hope things are going well. I was wondering if you were able to read through the comments and figure it out or do you need more help as I’d be glad to help you out with this as there are certain criteria for red links. Please let us know! We eagerly await your presence. Galendalia^{Chat Me Up} 07:13, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

How would I sort out The Breeze (East Hampshire & South West Surrey) from the Nation Broadcasting one and put it under Bauer Radio Phil8482 (talk) 10:58, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Phil8482, Bauer Radio already exists. Did you want to WP:MERGE the content? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:55, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Tenryuu.I know Bauer Radio exists already.All i want to do is put the information for The Breeze East Hampshire & South West Surrey under Bauer Radio and leave Portsmouth,Southampton & Winchester as The Breeze South which falls under Nation BroadcastingPhil8482 (talk) 18:05, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Copyright for a Google Maps photo?

Greetings! I want to make the article titled Florida State Road 997 better by adding a picture of a road sign taken from Google Maps street view. Would this be a violation of copyright? I want to write about how Krome Ave is notorious for having, unfortunately, a sizable amount of traffic related deaths every year, and the sign I am looking to take from street view is a record of how many deaths there are. It would be a screenshot taken from my browser. Regards Stapmoshun (talk) 17:14, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

yes, adding google map pictures are violating copyright --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 18:37, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Stapmoshun: and welcome to the Tea House! As a side note if you can find an alternate article that shows the same information you can add that text and cite the page you got the information from. That is usually the best way as a picture of a street sign is not the most informative and I’m pretty sure the street sign doesn’t get updated often. If you need any help, please let me know and I’ll be glad to assist you. Galendalia (talk) 09:06, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

@Stapmoshun: - Were you able to figure this out or do you need more assistance, perhaps trying to find a photo you can use or how are you planning on implementing this information into the article? Galendalia^{Chat Me Up} 07:16, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Galendalia:! You know, there has been this sign a mile or so from my house for the longest time that I've always wanted to photograph. But I don't have a car so I can't drive and pull over and take it myself, and now that we are in quarantine, it is even further out of the question. Can I link you to a screengrab of what I'm talking about, or is even posting a link here a violation of copyright? It wouldn't be in an article.. I think I am going to go ahead and write a new section of the article talking about its notoriety for being dangerous. Although I will have to come up with a more succinct heading, you know. I would love to have some help finding a free photograph of this sign. It has fascinated me ever since I was a kid. Thank you, Stapmoshun (talk) 00:40, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Why can’t I get awnsers from my submission sooner?

Dear teahouse,I am a new user to Wikipedia. One month ago, I submitted an article. I had about given up hope, until today. I received an answer: my submission was declined! I wish it had came sooner so I could’ve just deleted my account. What is your advice? Best of wishes, 0713125012PiperleeCopley. 0713125012PiperleeCopley (talk) 17:29, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

@0713125012PiperleeCopley: There is a large backlog of unreviewed articles, and all the reviewers all volunteers, so it can take quite some time for an article to be reviewed. No reason to delete your account, just improve your draft based on the reviewer's feedback. Also read WP:YFA for info on how to create an artcile. RudolfRed (talk) 17:47, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi 0713125012PiperleeCopley. You submitted User:0713125012PiperleeCopley/sandbox six days ago, right after creating your account. It was declined after 90 minutes. That is very fast, and you were immediately notified at User talk:0713125012PiperleeCopley#Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (April 23). Your draft has no chance of being accepted. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:00, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Welcome to the Teahouse, 0713125012PiperleeCopley. It looks like global lockdown is distorting everyone's perception of time! You actually created an article in your sandbox just six days ago. Its sole contents (apart from some recently added links to Wikipedia) was "Cats are mammals. They have whiskers. They usually are covered in fur, though some species do not have fur.". This comes nowhere close to being anything like a serious, informative encyclopaedia entry, and we have one on Cat already, of course. So, in a sense, you have rather wasted your time. My advice is to read Wikipedia:About and maybe try The Wikipedia Adventure if you really want to contribute. Alternatively something like Google's Blogger is a great way to create your own personal webpages which nobody else can interfere with. Because creating a new Wikipedia article on a subject nobody else has yet written about is the hardest thing anyone can achieve here (and there are over 6 million articles in existence here already), you might be better off focusing on making small corrections and improvement to existing articles, first. There isn't actually any way to delete an account here - simply abandon it and forget the password if you really want to give up at this early stage in your editing career. We all have to start somewhere, but unfortunately you did rather set off on the wrong foot. Regards from lockdown UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 17:54, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Hey @0713125012PiperleeCopley: - Where you able to get this worked out and have an understanding? I see you did start in the Wikipedia Adventure so that is a great start to get you going! Please do let us know if you need any other help on this topic or not. We look forward to serving you more tea but we are out of biscuits and cookies Galendalia^{Chat Me Up} 07:21, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Question About improving a article.

I want to ask about improving a article.I want to improve Shah Sulaimān Nūri and want to give more detail about the person.but whenever i add some information,some user undo my contribution although i add reliable and 3rd party source and citation Saadulhassan2 (talk) 17:36, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Saadulhassan2, You did not provide appropriate sources, much of it appeared unsourced. Also, your additions were not neutral and in an encyclopedic tone, nor did they follow our manual of style. Our pages are for writing factual and succint accounts of our subjects, not long winding hagiographies or devotionals. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 18:28, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

CaptainEek, Ok I get it but what if the article's basic things cant be added in article and biography article become incomplete without these details?what should i do then? User:Saadulhassan2

@Saadulhassan2: Look for professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources about the subject, and then summarize the relevant parts and then paraphrase that summary (to avoid copyright violations). This guide I wrote has a section on finding sources. Also, write in a plain and simple way that even someone who hates the subject has to agree with what you wrote. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:44, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

User:Ian.thomson.Thank you very much.I want to ask one more question. the source which I cite on a article should be available online or I can also cite a source which is not available on internet? User:Saadulhassan2
Greetings @Saadulhassan2: - To answer your question about the sources they need to able to be accessed on the internet (preferably free websites if you can) however free registration and membership sites are ok, however my POV is they are not very conducive to a user reading an article to have to sign up or pay for anything. You can have a look at WP:Cite and WP:BLP as well as in the article Ian linked in his response. On your user page you should have a welcome page from someone (if not go to my talk page and let me know and I will happily put one up for you) that will have a link to the Wikipedia Adventure which will help you get very well acquainted with WP. Please do let us know if you need any further help or if you are ok now. Galendalia^{Chat Me Up} 07:33, 1 May 2020 (UTC) User:Galendalia thank you very much for your support.I have welcome page.One more thing i want to know is what happen if the sources given are in some local national langauge i.e Urdu.In this case ,will my source be considered as reliable source or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saadulhassan2 (talk • contribs) 19:03, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

unable to link to existing wiki pages

When try to link to for ex. Fond for Utøvende Kunstnere, which has a wiki page, it still is linked as an external link and says that it is no wiki page for this company yet. Why is that and any way to fix it? Best May MaySundAnd (talk) 18:01, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

@MaySundAnd: That URL is for a different language Wikipedia. Is there an article here on the English Wikipedia? RudolfRed (talk) 18:04, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

That article is on the Norwegian Wikipedia. The link {{ill|Fond for utøvende kunstnere|no}} will render as Fond for utøvende kunstnere (including the "no" link to the Norwegian article), see Template:ill. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:07, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Note also that as well as that Bokmål version, another version of the article exists in Nynorsk, at nn:Fond for utøvende kunstnere. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:44, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Hey @MaySundAnd: - Did these suggestions help or do you need more assistance? Galendalia^{Chat Me Up} 07:37, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Hey! Thanks and sorry late reply! I havent looked at it properly yet but will get back to you if I cant make it work :)! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaySundAnd (talk • contribs) 12:15, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Which edits should be discussed on the talk page, and which should not?

On [[1]], it says, "Before engaging in a major edit, a user should consider discussing proposed changes on the article discussion/talk page." Yet looking at various talk pages, it seems like there isn't a lot of this– or am I looking at articles without a lot of changes? (I would link them but I don't remember which ones they were.) What types of changes need to be discussed on a talk page, and how would you express that you want to make a change? Agdearshah (talk) 21:28, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Agdearshah. Welcome to the Teahouse. Great question and, yes, you're right - not a lot of article talk pages get much activity at all - whereas others are buzzing with discussion and editing arguments. It's almost an impossible question to answer precisely, but once you've been around here a bit you get a sense of how easily other editors might react to something you want to do. So, a plan for a major rearrangement of an article might be well worth raising on the talk page first. Addition or removal of anything you think might be contentious could also be worth raising first - especially if, in your heart or hearts, you know that someone else is likely to take a totally different point of view to you. Whilst you can just 'BEBOLD' and make the change immediately, it can be demoralising to work for hours on end, trying to improve something (at least, as far you see it) only to then have another editor revert all your changes with those four killer words: "Discuss on talk page!". Merging articles or splitting off large parts into a separate article are well-worth raising. Earlier today we had another editor ask whether discussing something on a talk page is worthwhile (see here). It may take a while to get a reply, and if you don't then be bold and go make those changes after a few days to a week. Alternatively, listen to any responses and aim to come to a consensus. 99.999% of editors here want to improve articles, though with over 6 million such articles, that's an awful lot of talk pages and not so many editors. So mostly we simply go ahead and make the edits were are confident will improve Wikipedia, and then discuss if someone objects by reverting us. Does this, admittedly rather waffly, answer help? Nick Moyes (talk) 21:46, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

That was very helpful, thank you! --Agdearshah (talk) 21:56, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Whether you first seek consensus or boldly edit, there's a fair likelihood that somebody will object to your actually excellent proposal/edit. OTOH, there seems to be less likelihood of getting a massive wave of two or three editors supporting your excellent change. Your best bet is just to keep your expectations low. Fabrickator (talk) 07:51, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Hey @Agdearshah:. I see you completed the introductory course so congratulations! I wanted to see if there is anything else we can help you with on this request? Galendalia^{Chat Me Up} 07:54, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Moving a page

Hi, I'm new to wikipedia editing. I tried to move the pager https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C3%A9gory_Katz to the same name but without an accent in the first name. The page was already taken by a redirect to the page with the accent. I then completed the page "Editing Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests" as follows:

Uncontroversial technical requests

However, the published page shows the following page change request:

Uncontroversial technical requests Microcanthus strigatus → Stripey (redirect to Microcanthus strigatus) (move · discuss) – use common name (where available) to avoid use of genus name for the only species in a monospecific genus Quetzal1964 (talk) 07:31, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

This looks like an example or something. So I'm not sure if my request has gone through. Could someone help me on this. Thanks. Jkorsunsky (talk) 07:43, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

You want to move the article Grégory Katz to Gregory Katz. This is justified, as the sources cited mostly (I haven't checked all of them) don't use the accent. However, this will be a "move over a redirect", which, as I understand it, can only be done by an admin. In my experience, mentioning the need for such a move here on the Teahouse is likely to cause a helpful admin to do the move. Maproom (talk) 08:34, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, Jkorsunsky. What you have done is, instead of inserting a new request, you have edited the existing sample code to be your request - and, moreover, the sample you have edited is an instruction to editors, inside a comment, and doesn't appear in the page at all. I have undone your edit. You need to edit it again, but this time copy the line {{subst:RMassist| current page title | new page title | reason = reason for move}} to underneath the last entry - currently neatypus obliquus - and edit the copy. (I would have done this for you, but it would have been recorded as my request). --ColinFine (talk) 08:38, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Colin, I hope I got this right. It's not so simple, I find. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkorsunsky (talk • contribs) 12:34, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Jkorsunsky: - How did those suggestions work out for you? Were you able to get your desired results or are you still having issues? Galendalia^{Chat Me Up} 07:59, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Galendalia:. Don't know if I did it right, the page still hasn't been moved to "Gregory Katz" without accent.

Hi, Jkorsunsky. That's because you haven't taken my advise and made the request again. --ColinFine (talk) 14:22, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, @ColinFine:. I wanted to declare the fact that I am a paid editor before repeating the request. I just did it now.

Impostor editor of a wikipedia page

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Resolved

 – Account in question blocked for impersonation, WP:UAA mentioned as a more appropriate venue. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:26, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Not sure if this is the right place for this, but someone has impersonated Mike Hatton and made edits to the page Draft:Mike_Hatton, which has now been taken down. The user User:Mikehfilms is not Mike.  Caliwolfus (talk) 13:21, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Caliwolfus and welcome to the Teahouse. The usual place to report such issues is at WP:UAA (Usernames for AAdmin Attentioon) but in this case this report will do. I will look into it. Do you have any public information which suggests that Mikehfilms is not the actor? That user claims to be the actor on his user page. Please do not post any7 private or confidential info -- you my use "email this user" to send any such info to me. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 15:46, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Question about Adding Additional Citations

Hello there,

I am wondering if an added citation counts as a minor edit that I can do independently or as a major edit that needs to be submitted as an edit request? I have been submitting formal edit requests to add content to the William L. Armstrong page and it's been going well! I'm very happy with my wiki-manager's engagement. However, I'm wondering if I only want to add an additional citation to content that already exists, whether that also has to be an edit request? Hope to hear from you soon! Thank you!2019crisissimus2 (talk) 14:48, 30 April 2020 (UTC) 2019crisissimus2 (talk) 14:48, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello 2019crisissimus2 and welcome to the Teahouse. That is a question without a clear-cut answer. If the statements are already in the article, if the source i9s fully independent of the article subject, and is clearly reliable, and the statement is very explicitly supported in the source, adding the source probably does not need an edit request. But as a paid contributor you want to err on the side of caution. If the source is an important one, or is supporting statements important to the article, you might want to use an edit request to have the addition reviewed. If there is any possibility that the addi9tion would be viewed as promotional, definitely use an edit request. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 15:17, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

2019crisissimus2, as DESiegel said, continuing via edit requests is best. I would say to quote the content you want to add the citation to, include the link, and wait for an editor to review it. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:28, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Need assistance with a user

Hi. I would like a neutral person to please assist with another editor who has continued to make me feel uneasy. I am a new editor. I have been trying to be helpful. Also, if you would please read the section called "pneumothorax" on my talk page. That is the problem I am having. I have asked this user to refrain from further comments in that section. They have not done so. I feel this is harassment. Any assistance would be appreciated. Wikipedia is supposed to be friendly space. Thank you! Battykin (talk) 20:53, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

@Battykin: Added Template:Closed to the talk page section to emphasize that you want the conversation to be over. Unfortunately, everyone's passion to improve articles (combined with communicating without verbal tone and body language) can lead to heated discussion sometimes. There are 6 million other articles we can work on. From one "batty" to another! GoingBatty (talk) 21:10, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for reply, but you have deleted the first section on my Talk page which I did not want removed. Also, I did not want to archive that section. I simply wanted the user to respect my request of ending the discussion there. I still want that on my talk page in case it happens again. I don't want to archive it.Battykin (talk) 21:20, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

@Battykin: Oops! I tried to look at your archive, but accidentally archive your first section. Sorry about that! I have restored it for you. GoingBatty (talk) 21:26, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Me thinks GoingBatty has finally gone batty and is talking to their alto ego! Fly batty, fly away! Lol Galendalia^{Chat Me Up} 09:13, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

why wouldn't an article in the Simple English Wikipedia also appear in Wikipedia

My header pretty well sums up my question. It's prompted by finding Heather Heyer in the Simple English Wikipedia but not in Wikipedia. Cheers! Tarkiwi25 (talk) 01:04, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

@Tarkiwi25: Welcome to Wikipedia. Each Wikipedia i a seperate project and articles are created by volunteers. Also, each Wikipedia has its own rules and guidelines for what may be an article. So either no one at this Wikipedia has taken an interest in creating that article, or the subject of that article is not Notable under the guidelines here. RudolfRed (talk) 01:43, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

I found that Heather Heyer exists as a redirect to part of another article. Is that what you are looking for?

Forgot to sign. Isn't signbot supposed to catch that? RudolfRed (talk) 01:58, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

By default, Sinebot won't sign for experienced editors. You can opt in as described at User:Sinebot#Opting back in for experienced editors. --David Biddulph (talk) 02:21, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

@Tarkiwi25, RudolfRed, and David Biddulph: I tried to connect Heather Heyer at Wikidata, but I receive a message stating "Could not save due to an error. The save has failed." Any clue how to resolve the error? GoingBatty (talk) 03:13, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: That sounds like a question to ask at Wikidata rather than here. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:15, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

@David Biddulph: Of course you're right. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 12:34, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Arrgh. I wrote a response but it got lost--and now I'm going batty--because Going Batty got in before I managed to publish it. Thanks, y'all.Tarkiwi25 (talk) 03:20, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

And the answer for English Wikipedia would be that people who are only known because of one event e.g. victims of an attack, are usually not notable enough for a separate article about them. Which is why Heather Heyer has a section about her on Charlottesville car attack, but she would not be notable enough for a separate article. Relevant guideline is WP:BLP1E. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:43, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

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Closing this as it is a duplicate to the one below it. Galendalia^{Chat Me Up} 06:44, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 Floridians (talk) 04:03, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Floridians, Howdy hello, and welcome to the teahouse! If you have any questions, we'd be happy to answer them. Otherwise, glad to have ya around. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 04:23, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Your user page was deleted because it was used for purposes contrary to the purposes of Wikipedia. If you want to make new user page, first read WP:USERPAGE.--Quisqualis (talk) 06:23, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

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creating and editing an article

Hello,

I am new here and apparently already got in trouble with Justdafax. I am trying to Crete e apace and copied a template since I am still learning to navigate. it seems like I have made some mistake and may even have compounded them by fixing them. I believe I am getting closer and wondering if I just need to erase everything and just create a new used. Floridians (talk) 04:07, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Floridians, No need to erase everything. Don't worry, we are all new once, and it can be a bit confusing to start out. I'm not sure what your userpage had on it or why it was deleted, perhaps @HickoryOughtShirt?4: can give some more guidance, as they deleted it. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 04:27, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Floridians, your user page was deleted because it was used for purposes contrary to the purposes of Wikipedia. If you want to make new user page, first read WP:USERPAGE.--Quisqualis (talk) 06:30, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Vandalism

Don't Panic, Captain Mainwaring! I found some cookies and crackers in a stockpile of PPE. Enough for everyone, I'm sure

I see vandalism sometimes on Wikipedia pages. What is best manner to stop vandals? Beobaer (talk) 05:37, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Beobaer, You might wish to read Wikipedia:Cleaning up vandalism. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 05:42, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Long read, will try to understand. What tool better: Vandal Fighter, WikiMonitor, Huggle, STiki, Igloo, SWViewer, RC patrol script, Twinkle? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beobaer (talk • contribs) 05:55, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Beobaer A majority of those folks require certain permissions on your account and since your account is only 3 days old they won’t be granted. If fighting vandalism is what you really want to do I suggest you sign up and take the WP:CVUA. I’ll be glad to assist you as that is what I do a lot of. Welcome to the tea house due to high demand we are out of cookies and crackers. Galendalia^{Chat Me Up} 06:41, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

I like crackers! I reading all this material you posted. I installed Twinkle, because need experience to levelup for other tools.Beobaer (talk) 06:48, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

I attempted to correct

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Duplicate of next item down.
 JjlPierpoint (talk) 06:14, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

I attempted to correct a page and was vandalized. Please advise

 JjlPierpoint (talk) 06:16, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

You were not vandalized, JjlPierpoint. You allowed yourself to enter into an WP:EDITWAR with another user. You should go to the article's Talk page and discuss it with the other editor(s), per the linked article.--Quisqualis (talk) 06:27, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Could someone help translate this source from Persian into English?

Link:[[2]]

I think this source could potentially be valuable but I can't really make use of it because I don't speak Persian and Google Translate just spits out gibberish when I try to copy-paste the text. Would anyone who speaks Persian be willing to help translate it for me? I apologize if I'm in the wrong place or if this is too much to ask. 3 kids in a trenchcoat (talk) 06:45, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi and welcome to the Teahouse u: 3 kids in a trenchcoat. We actually have a list of people who can help you this. Go to WP:Translators_available and follow the instructions on the page. You should be able to find someone to assist you there. Please let us know if you have any problems or if you got it handled! Galendalia^{Chat Me Up} 09:23, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Uploaded image in my sandbox and would like to have it deleted

Hello Teahouse!

I'm a very new user/contributor and was testing various templates in my sandbox. I was trying to understand the naming criteria in order to upload an image (which I do have permission to use), and was successful. Then I realized that I could not permanently delete the image and it is in the image library.

I have requested deletion on the image file itself using the speedy deletion template.

Was this the best way to go about it &/or how long does this process take?

Any other "pitfalls" I should be aware of using the sandbox?

Thanks so much for your advice & feedback in advance! Radarthanherbs (talk) 07:51, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Radarthanherbs: welcome to Wikipedia, and to the Teahouse. No, deleting images and pages is something that ordinary editors cannot do; but you found the way to do it. The image you uploaded has been deleted from Commons: see https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/upload&user=Radarthanherbs . I'm not sure which "pitfall" you encountered (uploading images is entirely separate from anywhere you might use them). There is a lot of useful information on your user talk page, but if you have specific questions, please ask them here. --ColinFine (talk) 08:52, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks ColinFine for the quick reply!

I thought the sandbox was a safe zone in that anything I did, I could also undo. It was my own fault for not checking into the ins and outs of uploading images beforehand.

Nice to know that there are so many helpful folks out there - thanks again! Radarthanherbs (talk) 15:32, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

How do I get new page reviewer role

I have been a registered active editor for over 90 days, autoconfirmed, extended confirmed, and a record of over 3,000 edits, edited over a hundred articles, and have created a few articles.

Please admins in the house, I need additional roles to keep me motivated to continue editing Wikipedia. Best regards. Ugbedeg (talk) 10:37, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

I assume that you haven't read WP:New pages patrol? --David Biddulph (talk) 11:02, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Ugbedeg, you have already made a request at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/New page reviewer. The admins active at requests for permissions will consider the request there. ~~ Alex Noble/1-2/TRB 11:03, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) :Welcome to the Teahouse, Ugbedeg. You have already lodged a request for WP:NPP rights just a couple of days ago (diff). Coming here asking how to get that role suggests you may not yet be ready. Have you read the guidance/requirements and worked through the NPP tutorial? Be patient - NPP rights carry a lot of responsibility, and your past editing history and experience will be assessed. Like most things in life - and especially with reliance on a volunteer community - these things take time. Nick Moyes (talk) 11:07, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Article completion questions

Please somebody help me edit and add article "Rats cave" Виктор Пинчук (talk) 09:00, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Draft:Rats Cave Nick Moyes (talk) 11:27, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Viktor, and welcome to the Teahouse. I think it would have been better to have created a new draft about Eua's National Park, before focussing on a very small geological feature within it. Then you could have listed some of the Park's features with impunity, including the reference to your own travel book. I would certainly remove most of the images, leaving just one map and one cave photo, properly referenced the available sources (see WP:EASYREFBEGIN). After that, I would still be unsure of the feature's lone notability without a good source. Your initial rejection pointed you towards WP:NGEO, but there do seem to be enough sources to just about get this through. Best way is to ensure references are inline, and not added as external links. Nick Moyes (talk) 11:47, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, Nick. Do you think, need to do two articles or one (about the National park) and include Rats Cave? Виктор Пинчук (talk) 12:09, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

@Виктор Пинчук: You will have far more success with just one article on the Eua National Park. It would make a great link from the Eua article, and could contains a 'Features' section, or some-such name mentioning the main characteristics and features of the park. You might get some ideas from pages listed at List of national parks of Panama - which I chose because most are quite short. Good luck! Nick Moyes (talk) 13:22, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Draft article / Draft:Mohammad Reza Mesbah

• I write an article draft:Mohammad Reza Mesbah, he is an Iranian film producer. I ask wikipedia administrators to help me for change the Draft:Mohammad Reza Mesbah to an wikipedia article Mohammad Reza Mesbah. thanks.

Keyhan narimannia (talk) 11:53, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps you haven't read what it says in the submission box on your draft: "Review waiting, please be patient. This may take 2 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 1,643 pending submissions waiting for review."? --David Biddulph (talk) 12:41, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

@Keyhan narimannia: I made some layout updates to your draft. You can continue working on it while you're waiting by inserting additional reliable sources. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 12:50, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

David Biddulph yes of course, thank you. Keyhan narimannia (talk) 12:55, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

GoingBatty thank you for edit.Keyhan narimannia (talk) 12:55, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Quite a number of the Wikilinks in the article point to articles in the Persian Wikipedia, making then all-but-useless in an English Wikipedia article. Is this standard practice?--Quisqualis (talk) 19:06, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Quisqualis yes, it's possible. the links are who use Persian wikipedia, are a movie or an director who are have just Persian wikipedia. we can use their or not use. however they are just some of links. Even WP:RS in other languages can be used, see WP:NOENG. Keyhan narimannia (talk) 07:21, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

how to resolve the tag {{COI}}

My question concerns the entry Dr Alan Howard

I want to do the right thing for Wikipedia. I have created three entries so far as well as small edits on others. I don't understand fully the wikipedia processes. Before I wrote the entry for Dr Howard, I contacted an editor and explained my connection which is declared on my page talk. I was told to go ahead and to be careful how I wrote the entry.

I have done my best to write the entry according to the rules for Wikipedia. However, the {{COI}} tag has been applied and I do not know how to resolve this.

Could someone advise please?

thanks for your help. Tom Tomp-uk (talk) 12:01, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

I've changed the template to a link to the template. ~~ Alex Noble/1-2/TRB 12:08, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Article shortened by 10% and COI tag removed. David notMD (talk) 14:07, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Under "unintended consequences," article shortened an additional 30% and other tags added. David notMD (talk) 15:44, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

I have trimmed a bit of WP:COATRACKING and WP:FAKEREFS. The sources that remain are almost entirely primary. ~t is not surprising that articles on academics would be almost entirely primary, but it is uncharacteristic for an academic without secondary coverage to have an article beyond a stub. Usedtobecool ☎️

Thank you David notMD and Usedtobecool for the time you have taken on this. It's late now in the UK and I will review the details tomorrow. Tomp-uk (talk) 21:19, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Help

I am new here. I made a couple of edits and an admin, Vanamonde93 reverted them all, see this. Please let me know how to make a sentence based on the references cited correctly (and it should still mean what I am trying to convey). Thanks. Venue9 (talk) 14:58, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Vanamonde explained why in their edit summary:"1) material about persecution belongs at Persecution of Hindus, where it has already been covered; 2) your sources still do not support the content you are adding, and original research is something you can be blocked for; 3) please use only reliable sources. indiafacts.com does not count. " The talk page is really the best place for this, but sentences such as "The English Media houses worldwide have been trying to build a narrative against the culture, festivals, ideas and practices of Hindus" are never going to be acceptable. Your sources don't back the statement and it's simply not true. Doug Weller talk 15:10, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Edit request

I made an edit request here and was asked to establish consensus for it. How do I do that?Venue9 (talk) 15:08, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

There was a discussion just above your request about the same issue. That was just a few days ago. You can join in that and try to change everyone's minds, but please don't suggest other editor's are prejudiced. And EB is not a particularly good source even if our articles do use it. It certainly has nothing like our NPOV policy and many articles give just one perspective. I rarely use it. 15:13, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Messaging

How do you message another editor about their contribution to a particular page? Random Tyke 15:18, 1 May 2020 (UTC) Random Tyke 15:18, 1 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by RandomTyke (talk • contribs)

@RandomTyke: You could post on the editor's talk page for a 1-on-1 conversation, or you could post on the article's talk page for a group conversation and use Template:ping to notify them of the conversation (as I did in this note to you). GoingBatty (talk) 15:22, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Help for newbie

I have drafted my first ever Wikipedia article and submitted it. This was rejected (no problem, I understand why). I now want to gradually edit this and re-submit in the future.

However, article has been moved from my Sandpit to another page with a redirect. When I edit the page I can’t see how to save changes, only how to publish changes which I don’t want to do yet (not until I have finished all my edits).

Please advise.

Philip Walker PJE Walker (talk) 15:40, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

The button "Save changes" was confusingly renamed as "Publish changes" by dictat of the WMF. It doesn't mean that the changes are published to mainspace, but merely that a new version of the draft is saved. When you've made all your changes the button to submit the draft for AFC review is that labelled "Submit". --David Biddulph (talk) 15:46, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

"Declined" (not "Rejected"). The reason for "Publish" is that drafts are visible to other editors even though not in mainspace and not 'seen' by Google or other search engines. David notMD (talk) 15:50, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Can someone tell me how to hide an edit?

So, I accidentally edited a page without logging in, and I want to hide my IP address. Can someone tell me how to do that? Thanks! Thanoscar21 (talk) 16:27, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

@Thanoscar21: See WP:OVERSIGHT for instructions. RudolfRed (talk) 16:37, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! Thanoscar21 (talk) 19:28, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

What is the Best University for AI

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Extended content

What is the Best University for AI when talking about the best Univesity for Artificial intelligence program there is few most common technology university which offers the program of admission in Univesity Al NAFI Al NAFI is the best online learning when we talk about the online best website which provides the best international program of computer science the best online opportunities specially designed for software and best online learning engineers and artificial intelligence the most of software engineers from Europe United ComputerTeacher computer teacher reading free online and 2, of course, is also bad for the students of all over the world and is the best opportunities for Pakistan is and all over the world who want to learn and grow their skills to computer teacher program Udemy is the one greeting online computer programming is offer the test was leading computer programming which online computer programming available understand programming and online computer programming physical training table-wise tablewise is the new and most highly professional educational platform which provides online learning opportunities for all over the world students most of the students there and their distance and pastes education system it is online professional educational platform which provides you

Welcome to Wikipedia. It is not clear to me what you're trying to do, but Wikipedia is not for advertising for promotion. See WP:NOT for more info. RudolfRed (talk) 17:52, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

References

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photo

I am trying to add a photo of Professor Goodson but am having problems - do you have any suggestions? Best wishes Elizabeth Elizabeth fleur briggs (talk) 18:00, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Hey Elizabeth fleur briggs and welcome to the Teahouse. You can't insert a picture from your computer directly to a Wikipedia article, like you tried to do at Ivor Goodson. You need to upload it to Wikipedia first. In order to upload the pic, you have to own the copyright and be willing to release it as per the Wikipedia:Image use policy. If the pic is from online, unfortunately you won't be allowed to upload it. Hope this helps, Hillelfrei^{• talk •} 18:24, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Georgii Nelepp references:

 Courtesy link: Georgii Nelepp

Someone has edited the references on the Georgii Nelepp article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgii_Nelepp) from 39 to 16--over half. The deleted ones include links to his performances on Youtube, social media discussions of his KGB work, a list of available primary sources, a link to a group of photos of him, links to Google translations of secondary sources (Russian to English), and links to photos of him.

I can't tell if this was a Wikipedia editor or anonymous reader, or what this (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Georgii_Nelepp&action=history) means. However, the article was better referenced prior to the deletions as the list of deleted material suggests. What should I do to restore these sources? Opera Snob (talk) 18:01, 1 May 2020 (UTC) Opera Snob (talk) 18:01, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

@Opera Snob: That would be because Youtube links are generally discouraged and social media discussions are not seen as reliable independent sources. I'll ping Voceditenore for more input as they are more involved. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:25, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

FYI

 – Merged section below and renamed heading slightly. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:23, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Georgii Nelepp references 2nd part:

Iam chiming in agaisn. to note the following: This article was approved by Wikipedia awhile back. The title was written in green when I added a picture recently. Is there no end to this constant insistence on revision, despite the fact of prior Wikipedia approval?. What does does having Wikipedia approval mean? See the history of this article from the beginning: Templates removed when I followed editor requirements. And now you delete over half the references (which were earlier deemed satisfactory). I'm frustrated with Wiki lack of fixed authority whereby given approval means nothing.

Also, my name is not Muhammad. I followed instructions about the tilde signature. Opera Snob (talk) 18:59, 1 May 2020 (UTC) Opera Snob (talk) 18:59, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy: Article is Georgii Nelepp. David notMD (talk) 19:15, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

@Opera Snob: Just because the article was approved to move from a draft to an article doesn't mean the text is fixed forever. Yes, it's possible that there is no end to possible revisions to the article. From the policy Wikipedia:Ownership of content:

“ Once you have posted it to Wikipedia, you cannot stop anyone from editing text you have written. As each edit page clearly states:

Work submitted to Wikipedia can be edited, used, and redistributed—by anyone

Similarly, by submitting your ideas (for article organization, categorization, style, standards, etc.) to Wikipedia, you allow others to challenge and develop them.

”

Looking back at the December 6, 2017 version of the article, you can see a lot of work has been done by you and other volunteer editors working in good faith to improve the article since then. It's OK to disagree with other editors work (as long as it's done civilly). The place for you to start that conversation is the article's talk page: Talk:Georgii Nelepp. Good luck and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 00:21, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Opera Snob, you asked "Is there no end to this constant insistence on revision?" No, there is no end. Look at the article on dog. It was in a perfectly acceptable state 15 years ago, but is still receiving an average of one edit a day, most of them improvements. Maproom (talk) 08:36, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

I was pinged above by Tenryuu and am the editor who recently cleaned up the article. This came about as a request for assistance at WikiProject Opera from another editor, Marchjuly, [3]. He quite rightly had serious concerns about the article's references, external links, and other issues, which were shared by Beetstra, an administrator whom he had also consulted. [4]. As pointed out above, the appropriate place for discussion of the recent changes is Talk:Georgii Nelepp. However, before doing so, Opera Snob, you need to read very carefully Wikipedia's key policies and guidelines on: Verifiability, Reliable sources, No original research, and the Correct use of external links. When I began cleaning up the article, it was in violation of all of them. Voceditenore (talk) 10:09, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

HELP ME THIS DRAFT

PRODIGY MATH GAMEPLAESE HELP [[5]]

--HISTORIAN (talk) 18:06, 1 May 2020 (UTC) HISTORIAN (talk) 18:06, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Andrewhistory and welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia articles should be about notable topics, a term which Wikipedia uses in a special sense. Wikipedia articles demonstrate the notability of their subject by citing multiple, professionally6 published independent reliable sources, usually at least three sources that discuss the topic in some detail. Other wiokis and fan fora are not considered reliable sources. Please read Your First Article for more information. The draft article Draft:Prodigy_math_game does not (yet) contain sufficient sources to demonstrate the notability of the topic. Note that many topics really exist but are not notable in the Wikipedia sense. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 19:01, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Andrewhistory, your draft is only two sentences, which is most definitely not enough for an article. Second, please find better independent sources that talk about the subject, not Fandom and a listing site. Kindly stop using all caps as it is seen as shouting. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:01, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Declined Article

Hello House, Am a new user and just got my article declined. Can anyone assist me on the reviewers comments and how best i can edit to suit Wikipedia Standard Below is the url https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Shopnaw Thanks for your assistance Kojo Essel (talk) 18:14, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Kojo Essel and welcome to the Teahouse. First of all, your article reads very much like an advertisement, and for that reason, the editor who declined your article did a good job pointing you towards WP:ARTSPAM, which I suggest you take a look at. You may have a better chance of your article being published if you improve your references. Right now, all your sources are from the website of the organization in question. On Wikipedia, notability is established by the subject of the article being covered by multiple reliable sources independent of the subject. I suggest you search Google News (news.google.com) to get these, because I see several articles about Shopnaw there. Once you add sources, cite them properly (perhaps see WP:EASYREFBEGIN if you need help with that) and then try to make the article read less like an advertisement. At that point, feel free to submit it again. Hope this helps. Regards, Hillelfrei^{• talk •} 18:52, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Project to implement plain-language guidelines?

Hello, I'm curious about whether any Wikipedians have undertaken an effort to widely implement Wikipedia's own plain-language guidelines. Two relevant guidelines I'm aware of are Wikipedia:Make technical articles understandable and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section.

This question arises from my own experience as a WP user, in that I've consistently found that articles on scientific and other technical subjects are written at too high a comprehension level for the average user. Even the lead sections often contain terms that are more arcane than the title topic itself. To me this undermines the whole purpose of a public encyclopedia, and represents a missed opportunity to help motivated learners raise their science literacy.

I imagine any broad-based initiative along these lines would be an enormous undertaking, but still just wanted to see what work may already be under way (aside from the oft-ignored guidelines themselves).

Thanks for any help. DaveM92 (talk) 19:02, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

DaveM92, We try to tag pages with "too technical" and "cleanup" tags when possible. But please remember all articles are a work in progress, and they need help from folks like you to make them better. I know that whenever I write or approve articles, I try to ensure that they are easy to read for the average individual. We very much want all articles to be accessible, and we make sure that our best rated articles are. But we have six million articles, most of which are in need of lots of work. If you would like to help out with improving such articles, we'd sure appreciate it. You can always look in Category:Wikipedia articles that are too technical. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 19:41, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply. DaveM92 (talk) 23:53, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

A question

I was looking at random user pages and came across user:ROXELANA22. Upon further inspection, I found this. Isn’t there a way to ban a users IP adress so they can’t create more accounts? Thanks, Rodrigo Valequez^(🗣) 19:02, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Rodrigo Valequez There is, and we do, but it is not difficult for someone intent on doing so to change their IP address. 331dot (talk) 19:12, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, there is an IP block, but that may hit more than one user due to dynamic addresses. RudolfRed (talk) 19:13, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

​ ​ Thanks for the quick replies! Rodrigo Valequez^(🗣) 19:16, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

I don't know how to insert an image

I do not know how to insert an image when editing a page, please help me. Bobby Neir (talk) 19:23, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Bobby Neir, first question: is the image copyright-free or non-free (if the latter, does it fit all 10 criteria in WP:NFCCP)? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:28, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Hey Bobby Neir and welcome to the Teahouse. If you are talking about an image you found online, please answer Tenryuu's question so we can answer your question appropriately. If you are talking about inserting an image of your own, you can upload it through the Upload Wizard, provided you agree to release the photo's copyright as per Wikipedia's Image Use Policy. Once you go through the process of the Upload Wizard, you will be given the code on the final page which you can copy and paste into the article. Hope this helps, Hillelfrei^{• talk •} 19:31, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

I believe that the image is copyright-free, because it is used on two different web-sites, also it does not have a copyright image (c) on it however I am not certain and would need to look more closely into it. Bobby Neir (talk) 20:14, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

If the image has been published elsewhere then by default it is copyrighted, unless it has been released under an appropriate licence or it satisfies various other conditions. It does not need a (c) symbol to make it copyrighted. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:24, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

James H Johnson, Jr (Lieutenant General)

Two questions: (1) The title of my Wikipedia bio is incorrect, as reads, James H. Johnson. It should read, James H. Johnson, Jr. How do I correct it? (2) The photo with my bio is outdated. I have a digital photo to replace it. How do I do that? Thank you. Roselb (JHJ,Jr) Roselb (talk) 19:25, 1 May 2020 (UTC) Roselb (talk) 19:25, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

@Roselb:

1. Someone has already renamed the article.
2. If you would like to submit your own photo (provided that you hold the copyright for it and are willing to waive it for any use), please read WP:IUP. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:36, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

what's the deal with the visual editing?

ok, i've been driving myself crazy this morning trying to figure out why the visual editing change box in the upper right of the edit box appears to appear and disappear randomly. First, not sure if this is the right place to ask, so if it's not please point me. In case this is the right place, at first i think twinkle was causing it so i turned off twinkle, flushed cache, and retried, but that isn't it. I tried to go full screen just out of curiosity and screwed it up such i had to move a mountain to undo that (big bug). So does anyone know why the visual/source editing drop down box doesn't stay home? ty ToeFungii (talk) 19:26, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

@ToeFungii: Where do you see it disappear? Visual editing is only available for article pages, not talk pages or other pages. RudolfRed (talk) 19:44, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Yep it's disappearing on article pages. I've tried different browsers to see if that might be an issue and it might be. I normally use the latest firefox, but i tried opera and for the same page opera showed me the visual edit whereas firefox did not. opera is based on chrome I believe. i've actually noticed this for awhile but it was in trying to edit Now you see me where i needed the visual editor that i actually bit the bullet and took a look. ToeFungii (talk) 20:16, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

@ToeFungii: You may want to take this technical question to VPT where they are more suited to help you. Regards, Hillelfrei^{• talk •} 20:19, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Thx. I just opened a random article and not via edit button. the article was William D. Skeen House. I'll go to vpt. thx again. ToeFungii (talk) 20:21, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Submitting a musician entry

I am reading all of the tutorials and still don't think I understand the steps to get an entry for my husband who is a musician. Many other entertainers in the same genre have pages. I also have his discography and other sources/references for articles that have been written about him. Please help. PepperZydeco (talk) 19:48, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

PepperZydeco Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I would first note that if you intend to write about your husband, you should read the conflict of interest policy. Please be aware that Wikipedia has articles, not mere "pages". Those articles summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage state about a subject, showing how the subject meets Wikipedia's special definition of notability. In the case of a musician, Wikipedia has a specific definition of a notable musician. Because meriting an article depends on meeting that definition and having independent reliable sources, not every musician merits an article, even within the same genre of music. If you have reviewed the definition and truly feel that your husband meets that definition, and have the sources to support it, you could attempt to write an article at Articles for Creation- but typically, articles are written when independent editors take note of a subject and choose to write about it.

Also be advised that a Wikipedia article is not necessarily desirable. There are good reasons to not want one. You cannot lock it to the text that you or your husband might prefer and cannot prevent others from editing it. Any information, good or bad, about your husband can be in an article about him as long as the information appears in an independent reliable source and is not defamatory. I realize this is a lot to consider, and feel free to ask any additional questions. 331dot (talk) 19:57, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

In case you missed it, Articles for Creation (above) is the process. read again notable musician. What you want to create is a draft, which will then be reviewed - accepted or declined. Articles about musicians with a similar career to your husband's does not mean his will be accepted. There are thousands and thousands of existing articles that would not meet present-day higher standards. David notMD (talk) 21:25, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Privatisation of The West

Are there any significant connection between the current presidency to the privatisation of public structures in and out of the states.

Since it is probable having government change of legal statuses to private by the process of division between ownership and control. Created to maintain power in order to enter new contracts and act or resolve legal or other issues due to its original ownership as business grows through legal binding.

This can be seen in the attempt to merge two automotive companies and space exploration among other. Through this process, directors may have to disclose information in order to act on the "economies of scale" emerging. Is impeachment included on this implementation?

I'm not from the States. Altvypr (talk) 20:22, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Altvypr. The Wikipedia Teahouse is really a place to ask questions about Wikipedia editing or Wikipedia in general; it’s not really intended to be forum for a general discussion such as this. If you’d like to discuss specific ways on how to improve a certain Wikipedia article, then you can try doing so on said article’s corresponding talk page; a more general discussion of something such as this, however, is probably more suited for the Wikipedia Reference Desk than anywhere else on Wikipedia. — Marchjuly (talk) 20:40, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

User:Altvypr - I would urge against asking questions about American politics at the Reference Desk. American politics has been found to be an area in which encyclopedic editing is difficult because some editors are disruptive, so that any discussions of American politics that are not strictly related to encyclopedic content are undesirable. The Arbitration Committee has had to impose special provisions allowing restrictions on editors in areas that are battlegrounds. So it is best to find an off-wiki virtual community for those discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:29, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

User:Marchjuly User:Robert McClenon Thank you for the feedbacks, I will take your advice.

Chase the Comet

I was wondering if someone could help me with my Article Draft:Chase The Comet. I have been told it will not pass WP:NBAND. which makes no sense to me but I am no expert just a newbie. Any help and or guidance would be greatly appreciated and welcomed. Thanks in advance! Adumbgeek (talk) 20:59, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Adumbgeek, Well to understand WP:NBAND, one must understand notability. The gist of it is: we don't write about just anything. Topics need to show that they meet our standards for inclusion. For bands, we have a list of 12 criteria that bands can meet. If they meet even just one of the criteria, they can have an article. But if they meet no criteria, they generally can't have an article. If you take a look at NBAND, can you show how the band meets at least one of those criteria? CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 21:08, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

CaptainEek, Thank you, for your explanation and quick response, I really appreciate it. I will get this revised and re-submitted. Thanks Again! Adumbgeek (talk) 15:23, 2 May 2020 (CST)

HELP!!!!!!

Is it possible for me to ban myself? Thanks. User:Shadowblade08 (talk) 21:11, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Shadowblade08 If you think it is necessary, you can be blocked at your request, but is there some reason that you cannot just refrain from editing Wikipedia on your own? 331dot (talk) 21:17, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Since I there are so many people on Wiki that hate me, there is no point in being on Wiki anymore, and on top of that, i've been getting pictures of porn. and seeing pages with the word fuc* a lot on Wiki. No reason to be here. User:Shadowblade08 (talk) 21:20, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

@Shadowblade08: We are sorry to see you go, and I assure you that many more people here like you than hate you, but if you insist, you can block yourself from logging in using the enforcer. Alternatively, you can be blocked from editing by requesting an admin to do so, but you will still be able to log in. Hillelfrei^{• talk •} 21:24, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, i've had too many people saying unmentionable stuff to me. By the way, is there any way I can put up one of those "Retired" signs on my talk page, before I quit? Thanks.User:Shadowblade08 (talk) 21:29, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

@Shadowblade08: You can put {{Retired}} on your userpage. RudolfRed (talk) 21:30, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! User:Shadowblade08 (talk) 21:31, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

As agreed with this user, I have now blocked their account for an initial period of two months, but for multiple reasons.Nick Moyes (talk) 22:34, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Michael Price Composer

 Courtesy link: Michael Price (composer)

 2A00:23C7:AE86:7200:6D56:63A4:4867:534F (talk) 21:34, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi IP and welcome to the Teahouse. What is your question about Michael Price (composer)? Hillelfrei^{• talk •} 21:35, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Michael Price Composer (UK)

Please include correct personal information for Michael Price Composer; my name is Zoe and I was Michael’s wife. I was Zoe Moore later becoming Zoe Price. We were married for a number of years.

Should you require further confirmation please contact Michael Price.

I think it impertinent to include this information on his personal link.

Thank you for your kind attention.

With very best wishes,

Zoe Boyden (nee Price) 2A00:23C7:AE86:7200:6D56:63A4:4867:534F (talk) 21:39, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

If you wish to propose changes to an article, the place to do so is on the article's talk page. You would need to support your proposal with references to published reliable sources. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:52, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, IP editor. Whilst it is not impertinent, we cannot simply add details to an article based on what any user asserts, nor do we contact subjects of articles to 'check' details. Wikipedia simply collates what is out there and published in the public domain by reliable sources. Unsourced statements about living people and their relatives should be deleted from any article, not added. (As an aside, I assume you remarried someone called Boyden, though I cannot see how you can be nee Price. I'm sure you meant nee Moore?) Either way, we cannot take yours or his word, sorry. But what we can take is a photograph you took of him yourself. As creator and copyright owner of any photo, you can create an account and upload an image to Wikimedia Commons for use in his article. It's often images that we are unable to get hold of, as those on most websites are copyright of someone else, which we cannot use without their direct release under a 'Creative Commons' licence. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:01, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Userbox with image

FYI

 – Heading created by Tenryuu

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Hello! How do I make an user box with and image in it? I want it to be written "This user is a student of Bangladesh International School, Dammam" with the schools image. Rahbab Chowdhury (talk) 22:04, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

MRC2RULES, if you're looking for someone to help design a userbox for you, go over to Wikipedia:Userboxes/Ideas. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:27, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Guidelines on mentioning sexual assault accusations

Could anyone pinpoint me to a guideline or best practice on how to weigh the worthiness of mentioning a particular allegation of wrongdoing - sexual assaults in particular - in a biography of a living actor? I understand the general rule that these should be described as allegations instead of being treated as outright true, unless/until they are proven in court or by indisputable evidence. But even the mere mention of accusations (however unfounded) on a page is not to be taken lightly. So I'm wondering, what is the best way to go about it? Charmanderblue (talk) 23:09, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

That is a really excellent question, and well-worth asking, Charmanderblue. Welcome to the Teahouse, by the way. We have a policy designed to protect people's privacy and reputation against the promotion of false allegations. See Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, and in particular  the section entitled Presumption in favor of privacy, which states "If an allegation or incident is noteworthy, relevant, and well documented, it belongs in the article—even if it is negative and the subject dislikes all mention of it. If you cannot find multiple reliable third-party sources documenting the allegation or incident, leave it out." So, use your judgement and err on the side of caution. Ask yourself, is this a public figure with genuine and public allegations made against them by more than one serious and reliable news source, or just a bit of smoke puffed up by some two-bit news outlet to undermine an innocent person. Note also the sentence later in the polciy which states: "Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced and not related to making content choices should be removed, deleted, or oversighted, as appropriate.". So, when in doubt, leave it out! Does this help? Nick Moyes (talk) 00:07, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the swift reply and the warm welcome! Helpful indeed, but let me elaborate a bit on the example of Timothy Hutton. Buzzfeed News broke the story in March 2020 that he had sexually assaulted a child in 1983. At what point did this become appropriate for inclusion, and at what point will it be considered for removal should the accusations be tossed out by the investigators? Now I understand that readers are expected to remain unbiased until more facts are present. Though it troubles me that, there might not be a lot of information to give given how long ago this incident had allegedly taken place. Which begs another question: should this case remain pending with no notable advancement, is the sexual offender label going to simply hang around Hutton's article? Charmanderblue (talk) 00:28, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Charmanderblue, I do not believe BuzzFeed is considered a newsworthy source due to the fact they are considered leftwing, which essentially makes them biased. I encourage you to read BuzzFeed. If you can find other, more reliable sources, then it could be added provided that there is enough coverage of it. One article mentioning it is not considered notable enough for inclusion. If you need any help in finding anything, please let us know. Courtesy ping @Nick Moyes: Galendalia^{Chat Me Up} 05:56, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Galendalia, thanks for the answer. Should I assume by your message that the sexual assault section on Timothy Hutton's article is subject to removal based on the fact that the accusations are based off of BuzzFeed News reporting? Or is it still considered admissible as other reliable sources have retold the same story based on BuzzFeed's original reporting? I guess what I'm trying to ask here is, if a non-newsworthy source breaks a sexual assault story that wouldn't merit inclusion in its own right, does the right of inclusion arise if other reliable, secondary sources pick this up from said non-newsworthy source? Charmanderblue (talk) 07:21, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

​ I am looking more into this and it appears it originated with Buzzfeed and all of the other sources that have picked it up are also not exactly news sites. It would also appear that this accusation just surfaced of something that happened in 1983. Of the links you mentioned, none are reliable that I can see, including the National Post as they basically copied/paste most of what has been said on other articles. Maybe @Nick Moyes: and @GoingBatty: can chime in on this as well? My recommendation is to remove that particular statement. --Galendalia^{Chat Me Up} 07:33, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

@Galendalia and Charmanderblue: Looks like there's a difference between Buzzfeed and Buzzfeed News, and that this story is from Buzzfeed News. Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources says that "Editors find the quality of BuzzFeed articles to be highly inconsistent." and "There is consensus that BuzzFeed News is generally reliable." Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Public_figures states "In the case of public figures, there will be a multitude of reliable published sources, and BLPs should simply document what these sources say. If an allegation or incident is noteworthy, relevant, and well documented, it belongs in the article—even if it is negative and the subject dislikes all mention of it. If you cannot find multiple reliable third-party sources documenting the allegation or incident, leave it out." Maybe the question of how long to keep an allegation on a BLP should be asked at Wikipedia talk:Biographies of living persons? Hope this helps! GoingBatty (talk) 15:12, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

@GoingBatty:You're right in your observation that BuzzFeed News and BuzzFeed are two different entities with a varying degree of reliability. The "multiple reliable third-party sources" is also an interesting observation and I wonder if the lack of any such sources allows for that particular statement on Timothy Hutton's article to be challenged? Charmanderblue (talk) 15:19, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Update: I have followed the suggestions here and opened a ticket at Wikipedia talk:Biographies of living persons as to attract the attention of more seasoned editors on this. Charmanderblue (talk) 19:14, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I'm trying to post a bio about a very good person who has touched many lives. It got rejected and Im not sure why. How can I get help

 Thumper1001 (talk) 23:36, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. See the note on your talk page. You had not edited the draft for more than six months, so it was deleted. If you are ready to start working on it again, you can ask for the draft to be restored at WP:REFUND. RudolfRed (talk) 23:38, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

My bad that is a very old note. What is the draft you are currently working on that was declined? RudolfRed (talk) 23:39, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

@Thumper1001: I'm afraid we can do no more than point you towards the reply to your post, made earlier today  on this user's page, although, as said above, you were replying to a rejection message left for you six years ago by Anne Delong, back in 2014. The only content relevant to your query seems to be at User talk:Thumper1001/sandbox, which, at this point in time, is wholly unsourced and unsuitable for a Wikipedia article, and is the same content as that deleted in 2014. Looking at that deleted content, two editors at Articles for Creation gave you the following advice:

• Please find and add references to sources not connected with Mr. Wilson, such as news reports, reviews, magazine articles, etc., to confirm the information in this article and to show that he has been written about extensively by journalists and other authors. Left by Anne Delong (January 2014)
• The article also is not written in a neutral, encyclopedic tone. That needs to be corrected as well. Left by Joe Decker (May 2014)

I should also add that the way you have referred to him throughout the article as 'Doug' suggests to me that you might well know this individual. If so, you will have a clear Conflict of Interest which you must declare on your user page. (See WP:COI on how to do this). Nick Moyes (talk) 23:58, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Churkendoose

Churkendoose was a children's hardbound picture book published in 1946 written by Ben Ross Berenberg. Subsequently it was made into a record album narrated by Ray Bolger. The only Wikipedia mention of Churkendoose is in the Ray Bolger article, but it doesn't mention the book or the author.

Searching for Churkendoose on google one can find many many copies for sale, testament to the popularity of this book. I was unable to find an article that says, "This book was popular" nor can I find, as I did some years ago, many articles from the conservative political side that blamed this book on the liberal relativistic way of valuing things. "It depends on how you look at things" is the refrain of the book.

THIS BOOK WAS IMPORTANT

Someone should start an article about this book or at least the author. Conscientia (talk) 00:39, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

@Conscientia: Welcome to the Teahouse! You can be the someone to start an article! (Presuming you have no conflict of interest, of course.) First, you need to find enough reliable sources to satisfy Wikipedia's definition of notability for books or notability for authors, and then see Help:Your first article to get started. If you're not ready for that, you can list your requests at Wikipedia:Requested articles/Arts and entertainment/Literature. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 01:13, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Hello, Conscientia and welcome to the Teahouse.

That a book sold many copies, or even that it was said to be "popular", does not mean that it should have an article about it on Wikipedia. The standard here is that a topic must be notable, a term which Wikipedia uses in a special sense. Here it means that multiple independent reliable sources have taken note of the topic, by writing about it at some length and publishing those writings. We normally want multiple independent professionally published reliable sources. This means things like professional reviews of a book, not fan sites, or user fora, or blogs, or personal sites, or wikis. It could also include published biographies (not autobiographies) of the author, or academic studies in which the work is treated at some length. If you are able to find and present such sources, others might be able to help in writing an article. Sources do not have to be available online, although that makes them easier to access. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 01:24, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

I would dd that I do not recommend using Wikipedia:Requested articles to anyone. So few of the requests are ever fulfilled, that it is a better use of one's time and effort to buy a lottery ticket. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 01:27, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Conscientia! Try to dig up a few more sources like this [6], then see HELP:YFA. A WP-article on any topic is meant to be a summary of the WP:RS references you can find. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:07, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

The Churkendoose. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:42, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Replying to a comment on my page

Wabends (talk) 03:57, 2 May 2020 (UTC)A tag has been put on top of my page that my biography reads as if someon has been paid to edit th epage. That is false because I have not paid anyone to do so. How do I respond to the original message placed on my page? Thanks in advance for your help. Wabends (talk) 03:57, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

@Wabends: If you are referring to the Daniel Asua Wubah article, and you are actually Daniel Asua Wubah, then you shouldn't be editing the article, per Wikipedia's conflict of interest guideline. If that is the case, please see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#How to disclose a COI. GoingBatty (talk) 04:05, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy ping to @Newslinger:. GoingBatty (talk) 04:07, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

So, undisclosed paid is wrong, because you created the article about yourself? That is now the least of your worries, as the article has been proposed for deletion. Per Proposed deletions, "You may remove this message if you improve the article or otherwise object to deletion for any reason. Although not required, you are encouraged to explain why you object to the deletion, either in your edit summary or on the talk page. If this template is removed, do not replace it." David notMD (talk) 11:49, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion tag removed by an article-independent editor, and undisclosed paid tag removed. Wabends should declare on User page the COI of creating an article about self. David notMD (talk) 13:40, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Have a dilemma and trying to avoid 3rr

Resolved

 – User in question blocked. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:54, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Ok, got a dilemma. A user has tried 5x to change info on a blp article to something different than a 2019 WP:RSP says (it's not contentious/libel/defaming, just a difference in # of records sold). 4 users (including myself) have reverted the change. If they change it again, I can't fix it without 3rr. I was the first editor to mention what the cite said, and this other user got two sources that are over a decade old which would obviously have fewer record sales.

Would I meet the WP:3RRNO based on exemption #7 because they are using a decade old outdated source? In case it helps, the article is Gloria Estefan and it's 114.141.54.139 (talk · contribs) that is trying to put in this bad info. They've also been reverted on 5 other blp articles.

Also, I think the person is a not acting in good faith, because they seem to be trying to put the #75 on 4 articles. What makes it odd is that for Estefan's page the cite they offered had the #70 and not the 75 they put into the article. So I think they're just trying to insert 75 into articles.

Thanks ToeFungii (talk) 10:01, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

@ToeFungii: It appears they have been blocked already. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:57, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

I see that now having gotten some sleep. fortunately. ToeFungii (talk) 17:23, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia servers slow? (lagging)?

Wikipedia servers slow? (lagging)?

hi. Are wiki servers experiencing overall too much demand due to the pandemic?. Whenever i try to edit like very large pages its very unresponsive and sometimes lags when i type. There is no problem with my computers ram or other. Rahbab Chowdhury (talk) 11:06, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

@MRC2RULES:, to the best of my knowledge, there weren't any technical issues in the last few days. While the pandemic has caused a bump in readership, we've had more before, and it hasn't increased the editing load, so I don't believe that's the issue. There were some technical issues a week or so ago. Major drags (even if the site ultimately loaded) would normally cause a bump in reports at places like down detector, which doesn't show anything in the last 24hrs. Are you saying it's slow, or it's slower than it was before C19? Nosebagbear (talk) 10:39, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

slower than before Rahbab Chowdhury (talk) 11:08, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Headline with artist name

Hey again and thanks for all the help I have gotten here so far!

currently working in my sandbox. Will the headline appear when i send the article for review. Like this:

Peter Lodwick (right font) __________________________________________________________________________ From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Best May MaySundAnd (talk) 12:18, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

@MaySundAnd: The text "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" currently appears on User:MaySundAnd/sandbox, and will appear when you move it to the draft space (as you can see on any other draft, like Draft:Beirut Yacht Club). However, the page name should be Draft:Peter Lodwick. Once it becomes an article, the page name will be simply Peter Lodwick. Keep working to add the reliable sources, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 15:24, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, MaySundAnd, and welcoe back to the Teahouse. Your draft User:MaySundAnd/sandbox has a button at the top that says "Submit your draft for review". When you think it is ready for review pick that button, and it will go on the list of drafts waiting for review. Review might take days to months, since we are all volunteers here, and work on what we choose. If a reviewer decides that your draft is suitable for Wikipedia, they will move it to main article space, and it will be named as an article.

However, I'm afraid that if you submit it in its present state, I am confident that it will quickly be declined. This is for several reasons, but the main one is that, as far as I can see, the draft does not cite a single independent source. This is a problem because Wikipedia is basically not interested in anything said or published by the subject or their associates, employers, or clients. All Wikipedia articles should be almost entirely based on material that has been reliably published about the subject by people who have no connection with the subject - for an artist, this most often means reviews in major publications (provided the reviews talk about the artist, not just about the works), or books from reputable publishers which contain substantial material about the subject.

This leads to the more fundamental point: Wikipedia accepts articles only about subjects which are notable in Wikipedia's special sense of the word - which normally means exactly what I have said above - that there are sufficient reliably published independent sources about the subject. Not every artist meets this criterion, but if the subject does not, then an article about them is not possible. Since your sources are not independent, at present your draft does nothing to establish that Lodwick is notable, and the draft will not be accepted.

There are some lesser problems with the draft as well. One is that even the sources which are cited are not cited in a useful way. Ideally each sentence, or at least each paragraph, should be cited to a source (and a place in the source) which supports the specific information in that sentence or paragraph: without this, a reader has no way of checking whether the information in the article is correct. (Even if it was initially correct, somebody may have changed it since - this is the encyclopaedia which anybody can edit). I don't think a reviewer would decline a draft just because a few statements were not sourced, but I think they would decline one with no inline citations. Also, there is far too much detail in the draft. This is an encyclopaedia, not the artist's website.

The amount of detail makes me wonder if you are associated with Lodwick in some way. If you are, please familiarise yourself with Wikipedia's recommendations on editing with a conflict of interest. If further, you are doing this in any way in a paid capacity (eg if you are employed by one of the companies or theatres mentioned), you are required to disclose this - see paid editing. --ColinFine (talk) 15:56, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you ColinFinefor the reply!

Hi again, after looking at this again I am confused about why this article cannot be published as there are so many other detailed wiki articles out there that also seem not to have independent sources but similar sources like the ones listed in this article. There are also aricles about musicions who have done almost nothing but still are recond as "notable". The artist im writing about has been active for years and done a lot internationally and in Norway, so why shouldnt he be "notable"?

The references are not done yet, but shouldnt the links provided counts as independent sources? Althoug they are not from a magazine or newspaper. Or else it will be very hard to find any links at all.

Best May

The spelling of the heading of an article on a person and his name throughout the artcle

Resolved

 – Referred to the article's talk page for further discussion. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:56, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Syama Prasad Mukherjee He used to spell his name as SYAMA PRASAD MOOKERJEE. So did his father Sir Asutosh Mookerjee. His signature of his full name at the bottom of the infobox may kindly be seen. These changes ought to be made right through the article. AnilaDebesh (talk) 13:41, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

I have initiated a discussion at Talk:Syama Prasad Mukherjee#Name. Please join the discussion. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 15:00, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Can my articles been noticed for speedy review?

dear Users, Kindly note that i have submit 2 articles on April 25th and waiting for review feedbcak, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lebanese_Yacht_Club https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Beirut_Yacht_Club and i have been informed that the revire might took between days to month to receive the feedback,

however, the yellow page on the top of each draft indicate that i can do smthg to speed up the review time i.e. this what i mean: "quote: Improving your odds of a speedy review To improve your odds of a faster review, try searching for a relevant WikiProject. For instance, if you wrote about a Kenyan astronomer, you might want to search for "Biography", "Astronomy" or "Kenya" to find WikiProject Biography, WikiProject Astronomy, and WikiProject Kenya. You can then add Template:WikiProject TOPIC at the top of the talk page of this draft, like this. This will let the WikiProjects know a new draft has been submitted.* Unquote".

Kindly to explain if there is anything i can do to my articles related to what is mentioned on improving odds for a speedy review so that i can do. Your kind reply will be veryyy appreciated and have a lovely weekend all. Princesse Marissa (talk) 14:00, 2 May 2020 (UTC)Princesse Marissa Princesse Marissa (talk) 14:00, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

You could try adding Wikipedia:WikiProject Sailing inside of double curly brackets {{ }} to the Talk page of the draft, but my personal advice is just be patient. The drafts-to-be-reviewed list is shorter than it used to be, and thus likely your two drafts will be reviewed within weeks rather than months. David notMD (talk) 14:08, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Dear David notMD(talk)

Thank you very much for your quick reply, i will follow yoir advise and will be patient :) Thank you again, much appreciated. Princesse Marissa (talk) 14:22, 2 May 2020 (UTC)Princesse Marissa

Just to warn you one of my submissions took 4 months to be reviewed :) However as David said, the list is not as long as it used to be and its unlikely yours will take that long.
REDMAN 2019 Stay at home:Protect the NHS:Save lives (talk) 15:10, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your reply REDMAN 2019 Stay at home:Protect the NHS:Save lives (talk), Stay Safe Stay Home :)

Princesse Marissa (talk) 15:20, 2 May 2020 (UTC)Princesse Marissa

How to improve my article?

Hello tea lovers. I'm new here. Please could you suggest a step or two that I may take to improve my article in progress about the designer Bethan Laura Wood?: wiki/Draft:Bethan_Laura_Wood Thank you! Jim --Jim Rokos (talk) 16:20, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

More content, fewer lists. See articles at List of contemporary artists for examples of articles about artists. Use only refs that contain at-length content about her, as reviewers dislike refs that are merely name-mentions. David notMD (talk) 16:38, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

@Jim Rokos: Welcome to the Teahouse! Please review Wikipedia's notability requirements for artists and Wikipedia:Reliable sources. GoingBatty (talk) 16:44, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Help with editing

In the Wikipedia article on Sonia Gandhi, there is a sentence, "After completing her primary education at local schools, she moved for language classes to Cambridge, England, where she met Rajiv Gandhi, and later married him in 1968." I want to add this after that: "Despite marrying Rajiv Gandhi in 1968, she took 16 years to become an Indian citizen and got her Citizenship of India by signing her Citizenship certificate as Antonia Maino Gandhi." Venue9 (talk) 17:03, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Is it OK or will it get reverted?Venue9 (talk) 17:05, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

@Venue9: Put it in and see; WP:BEBOLD. If it gets reverted start a discussion on the article's talk page (in fact, this entire question is more suited for the article's talk page). —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:17, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

References

Revising article

My wife and I are working on some revisions to this article, which we did not post initially. We're also completely new at this, but have read with varying understanding some of the how-to articles. Our broad question is: Do we append revisions to the original article, or start a new one? Thanks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hittner Procdm (talk) 17:36, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

@Procdm: You may make revisions in the appropriate section of the original article, or post your suggestions for improvement at the article's talk page: Talk:David Hittner. Be sure to provide reliable sources for your revisions. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 17:42, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Procdm, and welcome to the Teahouse. You should definitely not create a new article on the same topic as an existing one. Most often one edits an existing article by making changes in existing p0arts of the article. These can be as small as correcting the spelling of a single word, or as large as adding multiple paragraphs of text, or linking images or both. One may also add new section(s) when adding sub-topic(s) not previously covered. These are put in an appropriate place in the existing article, which will not usually be at the end, so one adds to the article, but does not strictly append to the article.

You mention My wife and I. A Wikipedia account should be strictly for a single person. If both you and your wife intend to edit, each of you should have a separate account, and should not know each other's password, although of course you may discuss your edits and agree on the best way to improve an article. My wife has a Wikipedia account separate from mine, albeit she is far less active.

Also, in future please link to an article when discussing it her or on another talk page, rather than using its URL. In this case one would type [[David Hittner]], which would render as David Hittner. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 18:02, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

How should I write an article on this confusing subject.

Hi there, I am Koridas and I was going to write an article about the song Feeling Good On A Wednesday, from the South Park episode The Cissy. The reason this is confusing is because it is actually sung by Sia, who performed the song in South Park, acting as Randy Marsh, who, in the show, is actually Lorde. If I actually write the article, who would I put the song to be by? Kori (@) 20:26, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Koridas, and welcome to the Teahouse. The song is by whoever actually wrote it, whether that person (or people) ever performed i9t or not. Any article should say that. Then it could say "The song was performed by X, acting in the role of Y, on Program Z" This should all be explained in prose, it is too complex for a table or infobox, in my view.

But before yo0u worry about how to write the article, make sure that the song is notable. Please read our guideline for the notability of songs. Make sure that you have sufficient independent published reliable sources that each discuss the song in some detail -- usually at least several paragraphs in each source. Many songs are not notable, even when the writer or performer is clearly notable. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 20:52, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

@Koridas: You might want to start by expanding the song information in "The Cissy" article first. If you find enough reliable sources for the song that it meets Wikipedia's notability for songs, you could break it out into a separate article. I created a redirect from "Feeling Good on a Wednesday" to "The Cissy". GoingBatty (talk) 21:17, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Article Contains Instructions for Poaching Endangered Species

This article contains detailed instructions of how to prepare an endangered species for use after poaching: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neobalanocarpus. I believe this content should be deleted but I do not know what the appropriate procedure to ensure it is not re-posted. Note that the species is now considered Endangered by the IUCN rather than vulnerable: https://www.iucnredlist.org/species/32314/2813845. Cryptobranchidae (talk) 22:20, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Cryptobranchidae, there are no "instructions for poaching", whatever that might be, in that article. WP:NOTCENSORED and WP:RGW apply. There are no policy based reasons to delete the article. John from Idegon (talk) 22:59, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

@Cryptobranchidae: whilst John from Idegon is quite right, there is, however, undue emphasis in trivial detail about processing the timber, and not enough about the species itself. I have removed some clear copyright violations that were added in 2013, and some of the tabular information is available on the external link, and seems quite unnecessary in the article itself. Thanks for your concern. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:15, 2 May 2020 (UTC)  

@Cryptobranchidae: as other say above, we generally do not censor information is it is true. I did add the IUCN endagnered states to the lede of the article, and you are welcome to add a section about its status as well. WP:BEBOLD and jump in. Be sure to include sources.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 23:18, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

@Cryptobranchidae: The article talk page - Talk:Neobalanocarpus - would be a wonderful place to share your concerns and suggestions about the article. GoingBatty (talk) 23:30, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi

Hi, I spent a long time editing and adding detail to the Augustus article, and then somebody came and deleted it all. It discouraged me from contributing to Wikipedia and it feels like I just wasted lots of my time writing it out and having it deleted. JuliusCaesar16 (talk) 23:58, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

JuliusCaesar16 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. It is discouraging to have one's work reverted by another editor, and it happens to everyone. However, it is not permanently lost, it is still in the article edit history. The other editor invited you to the article talk page to explain what your intentions are with your edits. The other editor was concerned that you were making such a large and extensive change to a featured article, and would just like to hear more about it from you. 331dot (talk) 00:02, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

@JuliusCaesar16: While expanding articles is great, in this edit you added a lot of unsourced material. Wikipedia does is cite, summarize, and paraphrase professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources, without addition, nor commentary. I'll leave a summary of some relevant points on your talk page. Ian.thomson (talk) 00:07, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Complicated situation

Some days ago, User:Jaycharan Khandey turned Ghasidas from an article into a redirect to Guru Ghasidas. Guru Ghasidas page was previously a redirect to Ghasidas, where the main article was stored. Was this appropriate from a technical point of view? Seems like a cut and paste move to me. I think the article should stay at Ghasidas, since most academic works don't call him Guru Ghasidas, only his followers do. If the move was indeed inappropriate, can someone please fix it? TryKid (talk) 05:37, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

TryKid, honestly, they shouldn't have done that without some sort of consensus, though, both articles were effectively the same page, so I think the editor was simply bold and went ahead with the edit, albeit without an edit summary. Comparing this revision of Ghasidas with the current one of Guru Ghasidas shows that one of the pages had been completely copy-pasted from the other, so the redirect was sutiable. — Yours, Berrely • ^Talk∕_Contribs 08:56, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, TryKid, and welcome to the4 Teahouse. Berrely is quite correct that this shouldf have been done by a regular move, not a copy&paste move. Since the target had some history, an admin or a page mover would have been needed to perform the move, and might well have insisted on a discussion first. I have opened a discussion at Talk:Ghasidas#Copy and paste move and loss of history and I would urge you to join the discussion there. Iam, willing to do a history merge once there is consensus on which name to use for the article. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 16:40, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

use my own images from one account to other account

Dear Wikipedia Members and editors

I uploaded my work images and my picture from one account which was Shahkars Architecture and used it in my other account which is Shahkarshah and I got deletion of page what should I do to fix it, kindly help me Shahkarshah (talk) 08:35, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Shahkarshah, you have been repeatedly told on your talk page that Wikipedia is not a place to promote yourself. Why is that so difficult to understand? M Imtiaz (talk · contribs) 08:45, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

As well as that, it is important to know that Wikipedia is not just a place to host your images. Unless you plan to use an image for a valid reason, you cannot just put an image on Wikipedia like it is a place to put photos for your CV. Websites like [Imgur.com Irgur] are made for that. — Yours, Berrely • ^Talk∕_Contribs 08:49, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Altering my references

I recently noticed that an editor, following on from me, has been altering my references. Everytime {{cite xxx}} was mentioned he capitalized it I.E.{{cite xxx}}. Why? How does this help my code? What benefit is there? Broichmore (talk) 08:51, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Broichmore, I'll assume that you mean the author has been capitalising the "C" in cite. All templates, regardless of what you name them, start with a capital letter. If you were to transclude a template that didn't start with a capital letter, it will automatically redirect to the one that does. So really, this simplified matters. Generally, citation templates aren't capitalised, so I find it confusing as to why the editor was doing this, but really, it doesn't make a difference to the code. — Yours, Berrely • ^Talk∕_Contribs 09:06, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

BerrelyThat's exactly what I mean. I just noticed that you cleverly worked out what I was saying, I had not noticed before, that, (in this case) on the edit page a capital C is displayed on the article pane as c; -- I.E. I encoded Cite xxx, but on the top page (here) it looks like cite xxx. However your incorrect, when you say, all templates, regardless of what you name them, start with a capital letter. In the editing box they pull down on the tab as small case, and when you create the reference the template inserts the code in small case as {{cite xxx}}. When I grew up and learned to write code the style for coding was small case as was the internet... Your point on transclusion is interesting, I didn't know that, but does it apply here? The citation in the story text pushes the user to right cite in the references section whether it's capitalized or not. Hope that makes sense, this is stretching my command of English. In summary it looks like a waste of time on his part as well as being incorrect; or have I missed something here? Broichmore (talk) 09:50, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Broichmore, generally no damage has been done, though I would recommend probably leaving a message on the talk page of the user saying these edits are unnecessary. About my capitalisation point, I mean that, even if I were to link {{smiley}} it would link to {{Smiley}}, as templates have to start with a capital letter in the template space. If this is confusing feel free to ask about what confuses you. — Yours, Berrely • ^Talk∕_Contribs 10:05, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

@Broichmore: All templates do start with a capital letter (assuming they start with a letter at all). By this we mean the actual template name, e.g. shown at Category:Citation Style 1 templates. When you call a template it's optional whether to start with a capital. The same capitalized template is called in either case. It's not limited to templates. All Wikipedia page names start with a capital letter but it's optional in links. For example, Cat and cat make the same link to the article at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat. {{lowercase title}} can display the name with lowercase at top of the page, e.g. at iPad, but the real page name is still "IPad". {{cite xxx}} and {{Cite xxx}} both call Template:Cite xxx, a template which happens to display its own name. A template does not know whether it was called with upper or lowercase so it always does exactly the same in both cases. We usually display code by placing it inside <nowiki>...</nowiki> as I did before. Sometimes we also add <code>...</code> to make it stand out from other text. Please post an example of the changes to your edits. I looked at many of your recent edits without finding it. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:17, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

@Broichmore: In other words, {{Cite xxx}} is a peculiar (and confusing) case that is used for documentation, transcluding the wiki code {{[[Wikipedia:Citation templates#Examples|cite xxx]]}}. While it's probably not helpful to make an edit to a page just to "correct" the first letter of template transclusions to capital letters, it may be done automatically by some tools while being used to make other changes/corrections. Don't let it bother you – remember that none of us WP:OWNs the articles we work on – they are a collaborative effort, and an article of any reasonable size and value may have edits by hundreds or even thousands of editors over time. Some people do the hard work of finding sources and writing about them, while others (often called wikignomes) prefer to do the still necessary work of cleaning up typography and other minor issues. It's one big, ostensibly happy, ecosystem. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 16:37, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

DIEUDONNE NAHIMANA

My article Dieudonne Nahimana has been moved to draftplace, and I want to remove it from there. What should I do? Ppt2003 (talk) 09:36, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Ppt2003. The draft Draft:Dieudonné Nahimana was declined today for lack of reliable independent sources. You immediately resubmitted it without (at first) making any changes.

Please read up on notability and citing sources. In order for Wikipedia to accept an article about Nahimana, you will need to find several places where people who have no connection with him have chosen to write at some length about him - articles based on interviews (such as the Guardian and Iwacu articles) are not regarded as independent, and cannot contribute to notability. Note that candidates for office are not usually regarded as notable simply by virtue of that candidature: see POLOUTCOMES.

I see that, after re-submitting it, you did make a change; but your change was to replace a blog (an unreliable resource) by a Google-translation of a probably reliable but not independent source that was already cited. This does not improve the draft's notability (and Google translate is itself not regarded as reliable - sources in other languages are acceptable if they are reliably published)

I must warn you that if a reviewer happens to pick the draft up before you have made substantial improvements to it, they are likely to regard your resubmission as disruptive editing.

Please step back and pause, read the links above, and then spend time looking for substantial, reliable, and independent sources about Nahimana - and if you can't find any, conclude that it is TOOSOON, and give up. I am guessing that you are trying to get this draft accepted quickly because of the 2020 Burundian general election. But Wikipedia has no deadline, Wikipedia may not be used for promotion of any kind, and any attempt to get your draft accepted in a rush is likely to irritate reviewers.

While I have been writing this response, the draft has been declined a second time, and you have resubmitted it, again without making further changes. You are now definitely in the area of disruptive editing, and likely to get your account blocked if you continue. --ColinFine (talk) 10:27, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Declined twice, and then Rejected, which is more severe. The comment by the last reviewer is that candidates for office are rarely notable, and to not resubmit unless he wins the election. David notMD (talk) 17:12, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

I am in a fix about 3RR

If I revert the 6 unsourced pending edits (till this edit) made on this article, will I be blocked for violating WP:3RR?— Vaibhavafro ^💬 10:50, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Vaibhavafro, no, it would be a single revert. Guy (help!) 11:03, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Resolved

 – — Vaibhavafro ^💬 12:16, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Need administeator attention

There are many biased editor who are continuously vandalising the pageShakir Ali Noori ,needs an uegei administrator attention to Shakir Ali Noori Maizbhandariya (talk) 14:21, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

@Maizbhandariya: Welcome to the Teahouse! Removing puffery, confirming that the article matches the sources, and being concerned about a conflict of interest is neither vandalism nor bias. If you have a conflict of interest, please stop editing the article and use the talk page to make suggestions and declare your conflict. If you don't have a conflict, then please consider the "bold, revert, discuss" method: If you boldly make an edit, and someone else reverts it, then discuss it on the article talk page, such as why you think the {{COI}} template should be removed. Thanks, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 14:37, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

My user page sandbox data was deleted

I am new to using Wikipedia pages, i created userpage and wrote my info to sandbox. afterthat was the DATA was deleted and received warning email to delete all the page if i try to create like that data. I dont know how to use wiki. Please advice me step by step. thanks Ahmed 85.76.112.244 (talk) 14:22, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Ahmed - welcome to the Teahouse! What was the user ID you were using to create the userpage in your sandbox? GoingBatty (talk) 14:39, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Adding new texts on a subject?

Dear editors. I have just published the following book: 'The Lives And Extraordinary Adventures Of Fifteen Tramp Writers From The Golden Age Of Vagabondage'-- ISBN: 978-1627310840. Yes, I'm the author and so there is a conflict of interest, but the book introduces dozens of books by 15 tramps who wrote from first hand experience and only one of these (Bart Kennedy), is referenced on your page titled "Tramp". A page on Wiki' for "Vagabond" only brings up the TV series. I don't want to be accused of self-promotion, so do you have an editor with an interest in this area of knowledge who is able to provide a neutral update for the benefit of readers who might be interested in the subject?

Kind regards, and stay safe from the pestilence.

Ian Cutler

P.S. my Wiki' user name is TrampLiterature but I'm not happy about trying to add info myself. TrampLiterature (talk) 14:29, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

@TrampLiterature: Welcome to Wikipedia and the Teahouse! Congratulations on the book, and thank you for recognizing your conflict of interest (COI). I'm sure you did a lot of research for your book, and your knowledge would be helpful in improving Wikipedia. It's fine that you don't want to update articles yourself. One thing you could do is discuss the topic with other knowledgeable editors on the article talk pages, such as Talk:Tramp and Talk:Vagrancy. I suggest you start small (don't spend the time writing sweeping changes to the established articles), and disclose your COI if you are recommending your book as a reliable source. Thanks for your interest in improving Wikipedia! GoingBatty (talk) 14:50, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Seeking clarification on Nikola Tesla’s Background

 Julieribar (talk) 14:31, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

@Julieribar: Welcome to the Teahouse! If the Nikola Tesla article doesn't have the clarification you're looking for, you can follow the links in the References/Further reading/External links at the bottom of the article, or post a question at Talk:Nikola Tesla which might help improve the article, or submit a question to Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science. Good luck! GoingBatty (talk) 14:54, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

FYI

 – Merging sections together. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:38, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Nikola Tesla Backgound History Discrepancy

Hello,

It appears that Nikola Tesla had a serious illness, which interrupted his studies, while in in high school in Karlovac, which is in present day Croatia. His Wikipedia page indicates it was cholera, but his high school’s Wikipedia page indicates in was malaria. Could someone please provide some clarification?

The Nikola Tesla Wikipedia page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla

The Gymnasium Karlovac Wikipedia page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gymnasium_Karlovac

Thank you!

 Julieribar (talk) 15:11, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

@Julieribar: You have a great eye for detail! This would be an excellent point for you to ask at Talk:Nikola Tesla. Good luck! GoingBatty (talk) 15:23, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Can you change the name of a file uploaded on Wikipedia and not commons?

Hello! I uploaded a cover art for an album here and I wonder if there is a way to change the name of the file, since I accidentally wrote it wrong (and it bothers me quite a bit). Do I have to upload it again or can you ask for it to be renamed in some way? Thank you in advance. DariuZzandor 15:33, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

It'll need an admin or file mover; see WP:MOF. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:40, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

David Biddulph, Thank you for the quick answer, seems like it is already fixed. DariuZzandor 15:45, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done Yep _ saw the post and sorted it. Had it been on Commons (which it isn't) one would use the MORE>MOVE tab and dropdown to request a change by a Commons admin. But I've now fixed this as it was on Wikipedia. Nick Moyes (talk) 15:47, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Nick Moyes, Thank you very much! Regarding uploading cover arts on Commons, should I do that instead? I think some more experienced editors wrote somewhere that it should only be uploaded on Wikipedia since it isn't free to use. Is that correct? DariuZzandor 16:01, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

@DariuZzandor: My apologies - I didn't mean to mislead you. You did absolutely the right thing with a cover picture. In my mind I was referring to any Creative Commons image that you needed to get moved. Sorry for sowing any seeds of doubt through my failure to be clear. See WP:NFCI for the advice on non-free image use. Nick Moyes (talk) 16:09, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Nick Moyes, No problem at all, thank you for clarifying! DariuZzandor 17:12, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

editing or adding new information to existing WIKIPEDIA entries

A wikipedia reviewer rejected an article I submitted but he suggested to edit other already existing because it may belong to that one. How I do this? Thank you DrDelaTorre (talk) 16:05, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, DrDelaTorre. What they mean is that instead of trying to promote the term you coined in a new article at Draft:The Cosmic Gorilla Effect, you instead attempt to expand content in a neutral and non-promotional manner at The Invisible Gorilla. I assume they are related? If so, we do ask you, please, to make a transparent declaration of any Conflict of Interest by noting this on your user page. See the guidelines at WP:COI for help with this. Nick Moyes (talk) 16:15, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

@DrDelaTorre: Looking into it a little further, I see there are various news stories like this which refers to the 'Cosmic Gorilla Effect'. I still think expanding the existing article is probably the way forward. At this point in time, one of our redirects could be created to send anyone searching for one term to the alternate-named page. Would you find that a sensible thing for us to do for you, as well? They are very easy to create, and immensely helpful. Nick Moyes (talk) 16:23, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your reply Nick! Yes the paper had a major impact in media and news. I have 3 questions regarding your answer: 1) do you have any template for COI? 2) Who does the redirect? I do it myself or WP does? 3) I do not have a user page, so I guess I have to create that first right? here I put information about myself? Thank you very much. Sorry to bother with questions. Nick Moyes — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrDelaTorre (talk • contribs) 18:17, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

@DrDelaTorre: Some suggestions:

1. See Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#How to disclose a COI
2. You can create the redirect, or ask for assistance here. We would need to know what exact phrase (e.g. "The Cosmic Gorilla Effect", "Cosmic Gorilla Effect", and "Cosmic gorilla effect") you would want to redirect to which article (e.g. The Invisible Gorilla)
3. In general, a user does not need to create a user page at before they start editing articles, but you should add your COI to User:DrDelaTorre before editing any related articles.

Hope this helps! GoingBatty (talk) 18:45, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Deleted page entry

An entry was made to a page that concerns us, and was deleted by the writer a day later. Is there a way of finding that entry to read again? 2A02:C7F:147D:6900:907D:AC19:301D:A5D6 (talk) 16:58, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Hey IP and welcome to the Teahouse. You can see a page's history by pressing "view history" on the top right. Hillelfrei^{• talk •} 16:59, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

How to verify whether it is a reliable source or not

Hello, A number of times I come across many website links that I've never heard of before. How can I know whether these are genuine reliable sources or mere spam/promotion? Lightbluerain (talk) 17:08, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

@Lightbluerain: You can try to look for the publisher of the website, and see if there is any relationship between the publisher and the subject of the article. You may also find the information and editors at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard to be helpful. GoingBatty (talk) 17:24, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

You can find clues on Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Ruslik_Zero 17:27, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

@Lightbluerain: In addition to the pages above, you can try WP:RSPSOURCES, which is a subpage of Wikipedia:Reliable sources that tabulates frequently discussed sources and see if the one you're looking for is listed on there. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:41, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

academic_advisors or doctoral_advisor ?

at the bottom "Acknowledgements" given as supervisor at PhD Research, which is appropriate ? Leela52452 (talk) 17:49, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Leela52452. Which Wikipedia article are you asking about? (If you're not asking about a Wikipedia article, then I'm afraid your question doesn't fit here: this is a page for assistance in editing Wikipedia, nothing else). --ColinFine (talk) 18:11, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Checking facts of author in article

 Triumph Banjo (talk) 18:41, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

@Triumph Banjo: Welcome to the Teahouse. Did you have a question about verifying the subject of an article? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:49, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

@Triumph Banjo: Welcome to the Teahouse! Are you referring to the Jack Wong Sue article? If so, it appears you removed some text, and your edit was reverted. This is normal as part of the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. You boldly made a change in good faith, and another editor reverted the change because they didn't understand. Your next step is to create a new section at the article talk page - Talk:Jack Wong Sue - where you can discuss your concerns in more detail. Good luck! GoingBatty (talk) 18:50, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

@Triumph Banjo: Also, if you have any conflict of interest, please be sure to disclose that in your talk page discussion. GoingBatty (talk) 19:00, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

How to check/verify the decisions by Wikipedia of the authenticity of facts accepted for publishing

Article name (Jack Wong Sue) I'm new here so please excuse me for my ignorance in this whole process. Question. How do I check the information source of the article written below by Lynette Silver? Or.Where is the proof of this article by Lynette Silver? Where can I review the steps taken by Wikipedia to check Silver's information? The article says that official archives prove that he "lied" but I can't see the proof of this, am I able to source the proof Wikipedia used to publish the writings below? Again sorry for my ignorance. Below is the article in question.

In 2010, Australian military historian Lynette Silver disputed claims made by Wong Sue in his memoirs and said that official archives prove that he "lied". In particular, she questioned Wong Sue's claims that he:

Single-handedly killed a group of Japanese soldiers at Terusan, Borneo in May 1945, thereby saving the life of Lieutenant Don Harlem, as there were no enemy personnel in the area at the time; Took part in a raid on the Japanese garrison at Pitas on 13 June 1945, as he is not named in records of the action, and; Witnessed the last Sandakan Death March as he was in hospital when it occurred and was elsewhere when the other marches took place.[7] Triumph Banjo (talk) 19:12, 3 May 2020 (UTC)