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Needs more independent coverage

The console was announced today and the only available information comes from Wired magazine exclusive interview and other magazines reporting on it. Let's wait for more independent coverage of this topic. Interview Anton.bersh (talk) 19:33, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Console wasn't even directly announced or named, it still amounts to leaks and hints. Far WP:TOOSOON. -- ferret (talk) 21:14, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Anthony Appleyard: Not sure what the history is here because of the histmerge, but I think this needs to be moved back to draft and the mainspace article should redirect to PlayStation. Very crystal bally, as the product hasn't been finished yet. TarkusABtalk 21:33, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The article is in a poor state at the moment. I agree. — Niche-gamer 21:48, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. We can wait for an official announcement that gives us something tangible (like the actual name). Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 13:32, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Far TOOSOON. Sergecross73 msg me 14:33, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I also support the use of independent coverage. Wikipedia is not the place for speculation after all. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:48, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
This fails CRYSTAL. What was in the Wired interview gave reason to toss the "Future hardwre" section I put up at the main PlayStation article, but not for a standalone on the console when they said its not even named. --Masem (t) 15:06, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've reverted the page moves and restored the draft to draftspace. -- ferret (talk) 15:38, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

+1 JOEBRO64 18:22, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reassessment on independent article

@Masem, TheJoebro64, Sergecross73, David Fuchs, Niche-gamer, and Sjones23: Hopefully didn't miss anyone. This has been un-redirected today, and I've already tried to clean up several issues. The lead has lots of issues, the history bulk seems to be from the redirect target, then the rest of the article is unsourced information on release date, game list and pricing. Is this ready for prime time? -- ferret (talk) 16:13, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I nixed the game list (the only game 100% assured as a PS5 title is Godfall), and the prices as those were only sourced to rumors and not from any good reliable source. But otherwise I think as a independent article, it is fine now. As long as we don't assert 9th gen yet. --Masem (t) 16:32, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Masem: Ninth gen is sneaking in everywhere, it has categories and templates. I've given up. -- ferret (talk) 16:36, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Undenible we will have ninth gen soon, and it would be silly to not believe PS5 would be classified as such.. but again, we shouldn't be jumping the gun to call it that until there are hard specs given by Sony and people are making comparisons to the Xbox 4th gen line. --Masem (t) 16:40, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I don’t oppose the PS5 article in its current state, though I still don’t think we’re ready for a ninth gen article... Sergecross73 msg me 16:57, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I do not reasonably expect a 9th gen article to be possible until after at least E3 this year. --Masem (t) 17:16, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 21 January 2020

47.8.226.213 (talk) 18:17, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
i want to add some leaks about ps5[reply]
 Not done We don't add leaks unless they are backed by major industry sources (like Wall Street Journal). I am aware of the leaks related to a big news day , launch window and price, and we're not touching those as they originated from 4chan. --Masem (t) 18:25, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I support that this talk page needs a banner for saying that there is to be no mention of the phrase "Playstation 6" on this talk page except in response to hearing that there's official info that that console is out. Any suggestions?? Georgia guy (talk) 01:35, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What are you even talking about? No one has ever mentioned that and there's zero reason for a banner. -- ferret (talk) 01:43, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure it's likely that someone will. Georgia guy (talk) 01:48, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I mean, it’ll probably come up here and there, but I doubt it’s going to be a frequent enough issue that would require a banner. I don’t even know what people would talk about. We hardly know what a PS5 is, let alone a PS6. There’s nothing to even talk about. And there likely won’t be for years. Sergecross73 msg me 02:13, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

PS5 backwards compatibility

For complete detail of PlayStation 5 click here


I have a question, didn't they originally say that the PS5 was supposed to be backward compatible with all PlayStation systems (1→4)? I, for some reason, remember that was what Sony said when they originally announced the system, but now (it seems) it will only be backward compatible with PS4 games and nothing else (which is great), but if I don't know maybe I'm mistaken. -- sion8 talk page 06:34, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pretty sure it’s the top 100 most played ps4 games but I can’t really remember. Jerry Steinfield (talk) 21:03, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Our section on backward compatibility needs improvement. The top 100 games were intended to serve as a snapshot to illustrate how Sony's backward compatibility work is going. The system itself will be compatible with the overwhelming majority of PS4 games at launch. Some of the references have been superseded following Sony's clarification. — Niche-gamer 10:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No never said any BC beyond PS4; Cerny's first reveal stuck to PS4 BC only. Its been a question of how much of the PS4 library will be. --Masem (t) 21:05, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, anything about PS1-3 compatibility has been unverified rumors and fan speculation. Sergecross73 msg me 21:39, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oh yeah sorry it was an April fools joke. Lol Jerry Steinfield (talk) 01:49, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have a question on the topic if they say that downloadable and disc-based games will be compatible, so it means that if I own some downloaded game on the PS4, I can then also download it to the PS5? Jirka.h23 (talk) 07:51, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:NOTAFORUM. This is not a help desk for your personal queries. Sergecross73 msg me 16:50, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Grammar

It says : through a NVM Express (NVMe), which should be through an NVM Express (NVMe)

I can't edit the text, most likely because my account doesn't meet the requirements.

Done. — Niche-gamer 22:20, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Digital" games

"support for both digital and disc-based games" - Will the PS5 disc based games be analog media? 74.192.145.65 (talk) 03:44, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

lol Most Wikipedians tend to parrot the slang of the masses, such as "digital game" instead of "downloadable game", or "title" instead of "game". I've never seen anyone even question the obvious error, with the implication of .....analog games. It's disgustingly illogical, sloppy, and especially needless. — Smuckola(talk) 04:37, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Games

There are numerous issues with this section. Firstly, the April 2019 Mark Cerny Wired magazine interview does not quote Cerny stating Sony specifically was planning to release new games for both consoles. It's the author Peter Rubin himself who writes "As in many other generational transitions, this will be a gentle one, with numerous new games being released for both PS4 and the next-gen console." This is a reasonable expectation in keeping with past console transitions, particularly for games developed by third-party developers. However, there is nothing in the source interview that supports our article stating Mark Cerny "believed Sony" was planning to release "several new games" for both PS4 and PS5.

Secondly, the "binary choice" Jim Ryan talks about in the June 2019 interview refers to the fear of severance by leaving your friends and games behind when transitioning to the latest console.

Typically, the launch of a new video game console is a major transition, when old games and your progress in them are left behind in favor of the latest and greatest. Sony wants to put an end to that. [...] "Whether it's backward compatibility or the possibility of cross-generational play, we'll be able to transition that community to next-gen," [Ryan] said. "It won't be a binary choice about whether you have to be either on PlayStation 4 or next-gen to continue your friendship."

Jim Ryan isn't promising all future Sony games will release on both PS4 and PS5. Nowhere does he say that. He's saying you can still play your existing catalog of PS4 games on PS5 via backward compatibility, or freely switch back and forth between consoles with features like cross-progress and cross-platform voice chat. "It won't be a binary choice about whether you have to be either on PlayStation 4 or next-gen to continue your friendship."

My immediate proposal is to strip things back and keep it simple. We can expand on the cross-generational play and what that means for gamers but we must do so from a body of text that strictly reflects the sources. — Niche-gamer 14:09, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I see where you're coming from, but I get the impression that more media was taking the 2019 comments to be a transition like MS was offering. But that said until we see that reflected in any other sources, then removing them, for now, is fine, though I would suggest adding back that Sony was looking to the cross-generation play factors after stating Ryan's more recent comment. --Masem (t) 14:20, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The impression is easily gained from the 2019 Wired interview that Sony was planning games for both consoles. When we revisit the interview it becomes clear the author was talking more generally. Later the same year, journalist Jason Schreier revealed that Sony was planning to have PS5 exclusive games ready for launch. So what we really needed was an explicit statement from Sony detailing their plans. Jim Ryan recently provided us with a definitive answer. I'll work on the cross-generation aspect shortly. It's notable enough. — Niche-gamer 14:43, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 8 June 2020

Change "A major game library showcase for the PlayStation 5 had been planned for June 4, 2020, but was postponed indefinitely in light of events due to the George Floyd protests." to "A major game library showcase for the PlayStation 5 -called The Future of Gaming- had been planned for June 4, 2020, but was rescheduled to June 11, 2020 in light of events due to the George Floyd protests" NorbiZsemi (talk) 18:30, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Effectively  Done --Masem (t) 18:40, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 11 June 2020

95.168.120.10 (talk) 22:35, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The price will be around $450

The article already says that, near the end, based on component price estimates. RudolfRed (talk) 23:40, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A note on the image

Per WP:NFCC#1 because we know the system will be out soon - within 4-5 months into consumers hands, and that means sooner into demo displays and the like, this means we know we can get a free image of the console sooner than later, and so a non-free cannot be used here at this point. It would be different if the console was >6 months (roughly the break point). --Masem (t) 01:21, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The rational of why we can wait for an image is past practice but comes from the main WMF meta:Resolution:Licensing policy that NFC is based on, specifically point #3: Such EDPs must be minimal. Their use, with limited exception, should be to illustrate historically significant events, to include identifying protected works such as logos, or to complement (within narrow limits) articles about copyrighted contemporary works. An EDP may not allow material where we can reasonably expect someone to upload a freely licensed file for the same purpose, such as is the case for almost all portraits of living notable individuals. Any content used under an EDP must be replaced with a freely licensed work whenever one is available which will serve the same educational purpose. - my emphasis. We know that when the console is out, a free image will be made (in fact we can reasonably expect this from user Evan-Amos who has taken nearly all of our console pictures as free images. That might not happen until early 2021, but we can reasonable say that within the next 3-5 months that either: a Wikipedia will get their hands on a PS5 console and can take a picture of it and upload it for free, or 2) a Wikipedia can go to a PS5 event/demo station at a GameStop or equivalent and get a picture of it. That period is within fair game to wait for the free image that "we can reasonable expect someone to upload a freely licensed file" so we cannot use a non-free at this time. This is standard NFCC practice. --Masem (t) 01:54, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 June 2020

I would like to request thee addition of a picture of the PS5 as it was recently revealed today. 2601:642:4202:4A10:7C90:DAA9:C96E:B2D3 (talk) 01:46, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done We cannot just add a non-free image of the console, as this is against policy. --Masem (t) 01:50, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

photo protection

can we have a semi-protection section for the infobox because since the full release of what it looks like there has been and will be vandalism. and id like to say hey stop it, man. but i don't know the specifics of how that would work or if it would even work. but if it is possible then let's add some protection to the page. Jerry Steinfield (talk) 02:57, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Jerry Steinfield: You have to ask permission on WP:RFP TurboSonic (talk) 03:14, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

wheres ferret when you need him? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jerry Steinfield (talk • contribs) 03:40, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Jerry Steinfield: The entire article is already semiprotected until December. That said, in the DOZENS of edits in the last day, while some are less than perfect, none have appeared to be vandalism. -- ferret (talk) 11:27, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 June 2020

Adding official image ssethia 15:30, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: See the above section on this topic, which is still under active discussion. -- ferret (talk) 15:38, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 13 June 2020

The changes i will add more details in the history segment such as the controller reveal and details about the livestream where the console was revealed along with some games Speedyboi69 (talk) 15:25, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. -- ferret (talk) 15:42, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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