Talk:Ahmad Kasravi

Well, actually he couldn't show that azeris are persians, the strongest reason that he provided was 4 small villages with turkish names that were located around "khalkhal" that were using the "talish" language. he had nothing to do with even smaller cities in azerbaijan, and as some people know almost at the end of his life he changes his mind about azerbaijan that they couldn't be persians, nor indo-europeans, which we can see at this time what genetic and new historical founds shows.

He didn’t say Azeris are Persians. He shows that Azeris have Iranian origin like Persians

The commentator is correct. He based his proof on his research in an Iranian dialect samples of which he found among the Safavids and which survived in some villages in Azerbaijan. He did not, however, make any argument about whether the Azerbaijanis were "pure" Iranians or "pure" Turks. Such a view was foreign to him at the time he wrote that article.130.156.7.7 15:57, 23 August 2006 (UTC)Evan Siegel

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The words "solid", "showed" and "discovery" are almost never used in social scientific research. There are two excpetions to that: Duverger's finding about electoral systems and number of parties, and so called "democratic peace" idea. Even in these cases there are exceptions to the rule, and thus social scientists refrain from calling them discoveries. In that sense, he cannot "show" he can only "argue" or "claim". The conclusion cannot be a "discovery", it can be a "study" or say, a "reserach". Of course, what makes the wording above worse than what it already is (which has been unfortunately protected), is that it serves a political aim of making Azerbaijan just a marginal aspect of Iran. Azerbaijani, the user, is very active in other pages related to Azerbaijan (for instance, Azerbaijan) where he does just the same thing. Inserting wordings and paragraphs out of context with very questionable references (Armenian or pan-Iranian sources) regarding their objectivity to Azerbaijan. Azerbaijani does all these, moreover, despite the overwhelming objections to his addiditions and deletions in the related discussion pages. What I do, on the other hand, cannot be interpreted as distorting anything or being offensive. I keep the main substance of the paragraph removing its biased political connotations that depict Azerbaijan as a leaf in the grand Iranian forest. This is childish. I am really sorry to deal with this. Opportunity cost is too high. Thank you. Elnurso 02:59, 8 January 2007 (UTC)