Talk:Cream soda
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Jewish?
Is this really a Jewish food? -Litefantastic 23:24, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- I'm also skeptical... I used to live in Toronto, which has a significant Jewish population, and never noticed any particular predeliction for cream soda among the Jews. It also didn't seem to be regularly stocked by the Jewish groceries. Psychonaut 01:01, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Agreed, I'm removing it. MrHate 05:35, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)
- On the same note, I also removed the line that said 'Cream soda is a sweet carbonated beverage drunk in North America'. Surely it's not possible that the author thought cream soda was isolated to one continent? MrHate 05:40, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Dr. Brown's Cream Soda is very popular among New York Jews and throughout the northeastern US as far as I've seen. It's sold as a Jewish specialty food from Boston to Philadelphia, possibly due to association with New York kosher delis.
- Yeah but that's just Dr. Brown's, they make more than creme soda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.70.113 (talk) 21:12, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
- No, it is infact not Jewish, cream soda was developed in the 1850s and there is no indication it was associated with any group of people. Just a creative recipe. Dsoneil (talk) 12:13, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah but that's just Dr. Brown's, they make more than creme soda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.70.113 (talk) 21:12, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
- Dr. Brown's Cream Soda is very popular among New York Jews and throughout the northeastern US as far as I've seen. It's sold as a Jewish specialty food from Boston to Philadelphia, possibly due to association with New York kosher delis.
- On the same note, I also removed the line that said 'Cream soda is a sweet carbonated beverage drunk in North America'. Surely it's not possible that the author thought cream soda was isolated to one continent? MrHate 05:40, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Agreed, I'm removing it. MrHate 05:35, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)
But how?
We certainly have the what on cream soda. (takes a few more sips).
But my pressing question is, How are cream sodas made?. Esp the vanilla kind (my favorite)
thanks!
Glutinous?
The article mentions the UK version has a 'glutinous' texture. Australian cream soda certainly has a noticeable 'mouth feel' that I would have described as fatty myself (glutinous usually implies elasticity), so can anyone work out whether this is common to most cream sodas? It's certainly likely that unusual feel in Australian and UK products would descend from a common tradition. And if so, is it fat, glycerine, gluten, smegma etc?58.106.70.70 (talk) 03:27, 23 January 2008 (UTC)snaxalotl
Is all cream soda vanilla, and if not what other flavors are there? As far as vanilla flavor goes, my impression is that this tends to be "french vanilla", i.e. incorporating caramel/butterscotch/custard flavors. Shed some light, anyone? 58.106.70.70 (talk) 03:27, 23 January 2008 (UTC)snaxalotl
And why?
Why is cream soda called "cream soda"? They don't appear (other than the Italian variety) to be made with cream. Kelly Martin (talk) 20:06, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
Indeed. I saw the green Cream Soda in South Africa (and didn't really like it), and didn't quite understand what it was. Does it contain cream? (surely doesn't look that way!) If not, what does it contain? So I came to look in this article, and it only left me more confused. According to this article, "Cream Soda" can be of any color (green, pink, brown) and of any taste. So What is common between all the different "cream sodas"? And why are they called that? Nyh 13:03, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
- I'm reasonably sure that the cheap stuff we get here (the UK) initially tastes of cream for the first few mouthfuls but then disappears and essentially tastes like cheap lemon aid. I used to attribute this to the presence of lactic acid in the ingredients but this may have been one of the many non-facts I have accumulated over the years, I'll check it out tomorrow.--Pypex 00:22, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
- I concur that the etymology (and/or history of the stuff) isn't well explained by the article. Why is it called "cream" when it doesn't contain any? Maikel (talk) 12:01, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- The edits on the history I made have been deleted, but the etymology is clear, it was simply cream or forzen cream added to soda in the 1850s. There are ads and articles in historical newspapers that clearly state this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dsoneil (talk • contribs) 12:15, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
Canadian Cream Soda
The article claims that Canadian cream soda is mostly pink, but, in Montreal and Ottawa, I'm not sure if I ever recall seeing pink cream soda.
Crush cream soda has a pink label, but the colour of the drink itself is clear, as are the supermarket brands. In fact, the only coloured cream soda I personally recall ever seeing on supermarket shelves here was A&W, back when they briefly tried selling the brown American-style cream soda up here back in the early 1990s. I'm not saying that pink cream soda doesn't exist up here, but I don't think it has a significant market share.
- I can attest that it's pink in Regina and in Toronto. Toronto's a pretty big market, so I wouldn't call it insignificant. —Psychonaut 13:10, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
- While Jones Soda sells a clear version in BC, Crush's version is the most prominent, and it's bright pink. Maybe this is something like the white margarine thing... A&W when I do find it is also fruity and pink, rather than the old vanilla / brown version that they used to have here. Xinit 16:55, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Cream soda is pink in Winnipeg (Canada) as well, but depending on the brand, Canadian versions can be clear as well.
Also almost always pink throughout Eastern Canada. 24.89.227.31 07:35, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Down here in "the states" we only have clear and light brown cream soda, pink and blue cream soda is unheard of on the market. Also, what makes it makes ot pink or blue?--Witeandnerdy 00:48, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
To be honest, I was surprised to that most cream soda isn't pink. In British Columbia, the only non pink cream soda I've seen is Jones, and it's regarded as bizarre. Stargate70 19:24, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
President's Choice cream soda is definitely canadian and definitely red. here is a (long) link: http://www.presidentschoice.ca/LCLOnline/products.jsp?catIds=cat40002&type=details&catIds=109&numPerPage=24&sortOrder=byRate&productId=18835 . 99.245.20.140 (talk) 21:10, 12 February 2010 (UTC)soda drinker.
- I am drinking clear President's Choice cream soda at this very moment. Just saying. Puck35 (talk) 23:35, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
- Here in British Columbia, cream soda is generally red or pink. However, the local Dollar Tree dollar store which carries import drinks I can find 3 colours: The Pop shoppe red, DG "Sof drink" clear and then Dad"s old fashioned blue. They all share basically the same ingredients, a very generic pop base, a preservative and then the clear simply describez its flavors as natural and artificial, the blue has Brilliant blue, and the red has amaranth as well as artificial flavor, and the only one with cane sugar and not high fructose corn syrup. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:8D80:482:CB36:E84F:B1FF:FE1C:2CD4 (talk) 02:09, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
UK Cream Soda
I was surprised to see that Cream Soda is a world wide phenomena. I drank it as a child - almost invariably Ben Shaw's of Huddersfield - or GeeBee (George Barraclough) - a local soft drink manufacturer in the area.
My understanding was that it originated in American Ice Cream parlours - and was the resultant drink left over from an Ice Cream Float - which is a scoop of vanilla ice cream floating on a long glass of Lemonade (or occasionally other soft drinks) - note that this means carbonated 'fizzy lemonade' - rather than the still US version sold today. So the vanilla flavour derives from the ice cream. The drink was usually sold as "American Cream Soda" (despite being made in Huddersfield) and was clear - as it still is - although there was another pink variant called "Raspberry Cream Soda" - presumably because the only other commonly available ice cream flavour in West Yorkshire at the time (late '60s) was Raspberry Ripple - Vanilla with a ripple of raspberry sauce running through it.
Cream soda has a peculiar taste in that it always taste slightly warm no matter how well chilled it is - perhaps the glutinous taste referred to.
78.32.193.115 (talk) 14:02, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Additions to this article
I believe we should add what the ingredients are(all of them)how it is made, and the history of cream soda.--Witeandnerdy 00:53, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
- I agree on the ingredient list. I just bought Fanta's cream soda (Canada) and was surprised to see grapes on the label, apparently they add concentrated grape juice. You can just barely taste it and leaves a bit of an unpleasant taste in my mouth. Couldn't see any vanilla on the label, though that may well fall under the "flavourings". --Matt —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.3.131.237 (talk) 00:18, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
- Ingredient list of Sparletta Creme Soda: Carbonated water, sugar, flavourant, citric acid, sodium benzoate, preservatives and colourants, tartrazne and brilliant blue. I have no idea what is hiding as flavourants, or as colourants. jonathon (talk) 15:24, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
American Cream Soda
CF:
http://www.gleesongroup.ie/brands/softdrinks/country (ireland)
http://www.cocacola.co.za/product_sparletta.aspx (South Africa)
http://demo35338.srv100.webshopdemo.net/product/barrs-american-cream-soda-330ml-64/ (Scotland)
http://www.eireshop.ie/products/view/8516/CountrySpringAmericanCreamSoda.html
http://www.food-database.co.uk/food/Drinks-_-Soft/Farmfoods/American-Cream-Soda.htm (UK)
- Let us look at these examples:
- Ireland. Dead link.
- South Africa. Sparletta "Creme soda".
- "Scotland". This is a Danish company where you can order Scottish "Cream Soda", but the Danish order form calls it "American". The same order form that uses the English word "Platsic". Reliability: low.
- Eire. Country Spring "American Cream Soda". Same as the image heading the article.
- UK. Farmfoods "American Cream Soda".
- When we try tracking down this Farmfoods example further, we find
- http://www.oldestsweetshop.co.uk/sweets.asp?secid=8&swtid=177 "American Cream Soda" Kali, North Yorkshire.
- http://www.aquarterof.co.uk/cream-soda-sherbet-american-cream-soda-p-370.html "Cream Soda Sherbet (aka American Cream Soda)", Lancashire.
- http://www.thetraditionalsweetshop.co.uk/product.php/215/american-cream-soda "American Cream Soda" as a sherbet flavour again, as both of those above. Leeds.
- http://ukladyluck1.piczo.com/waterotherfluids?cr=5&linkvar=000044 This site appears to list every drink commercially available in the Mother Country. Here "American Cream Soda" appears to denote a style distinct from "Traditional Cream Soda".
- So, "American Cream Soda" is not another name for cream soda. It is name for a specific style of cream soda. And it is in the British Isles where this distinction is relevant.
- Varlaam (talk) 05:10, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Ordering of the international variations
The schema for ordering the international variations should be made explicit. Otherwise, the listings should be alphabetical by continent, then by country. Froid 22:59, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
- That is an utterly ridiculous notion, putting Africa first. The order seems fine now.
- Varlaam (talk) 04:28, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- What's wrong with putting Africa first? 197.89.224.197 (talk) 10:50, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
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Colors
Is there a reason it's regularly dyed different colors without modifying the flavor any? It's such a weird thing to do, certainly unprecedented in any other kind of soda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.70.113 (talk) 21:16, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
What is "cream soda", anyway?
These beverages are all so different -- in recipes/ingredients, flavor, appearance, texture -- what do they have in common except the name? ISTM that that point should be right up there in the lede. --Thnidu (talk) 18:45, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
- I have attempted to answer this but I've been labeled "spammer" because I linked back to my research. The actual history in this post is wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dsoneil (talk • contribs) 12:11, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
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Relation to Egg Cream?
I always figured that cream soda was a knockoff of egg cream, which apparently has never been bottled successfully. No? Shocking Blue (talk) 11:48, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
Caribbean and Latin American Section Could Be Improved
This article merges together the Caribbean and Latin America but while red cream soda may be the most popular in Latin America, all of the cream sodas listed as brands in the Caribbean countries on that list are actually clear vanilla-flavoured cream sodas (much like Barr’s Cream Soda in the U.K) - indeed another leading brand called Bigga isn’t listed here, and we don’t have an article about it, but it’s also a clear vanilla-flavoured variety. It would make sense to split this section into two new ones and explain this, as it is misleading as it stands. Also the link for Crema Soda currently redirects to Tropics for seemingly no reason. Overlordnat1 (talk) 02:01, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- This section has now been improved by Marisauna and me. Overlordnat1 (talk) 11:36, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
Country Spring
I’ve added some background to the Irish section for Country Spring cream soda but I can’t prove that it is currently produced and sold by C&C Group or anyone else, perhaps it has been discontinued? Overlordnat1 (talk) 09:25, 2 April 2022 (UTC)