Talk:Damon Allen

The printable version is no longer supported and may have rendering errors. Please update your browser bookmarks and please use the default browser print function instead.

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Sports and Games

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	Sports portal This article is supported by the sports and games work group.

College football Bottom‑importance

	College football portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject College football, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of college football on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.College footballWikipedia:WikiProject College footballTemplate:WikiProject College footballcollege football articles
Bottom	This article has been rated as Bottom-importance on the project's importance scale.

Canadian football High‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Canadian football, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Canadian football and the Canadian Football League on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Canadian footballWikipedia:WikiProject Canadian footballTemplate:WikiProject Canadian footballCanadian football articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

Early years?

Where is the cite for Allen's Pop Warner career? Is it really relevant? There is more history on Allen as a 6 year old than there is on his high school career. Any help in this area would be appreciated (especially fleshing out Allen's high school career). Sundevilesq 23:04, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Picture

I was watching the Labour Day Classic game on CBC Television when he surpassed Warren Moon's passing record. There were plenty of shots of him holding up his hand to the crowd with 1 finger indicating he was #1, and with the game ball. If someone could get a shot of this, I think it would be awesome to put into the article. -- Reaper X 01:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Addded pic from a poster of Allen that captures that moment. Hope it meets Wiki scrutiny! Sundevilesq 16:58, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pro Football HOF

Someone added a comment about the Pro Football HOF "refuses to mention" Damon Allen. I think this sentence and the one after it are awkward and untrue. I don't know the process for the PF HOF, but I don't think they've even been asked to consider Allen yet for the hall. I mean, he only broke the passing record a few weeks ago. As well the comment attributed to Moon doesn't really add anything to the article. I think those last two sentences should be removed.

I completely agree. Even though I think the Pro Football HoF is a joke because it is basically the NFL Hall of Fame, Allen isn't even eligible for it yet as he's still, you know, playing. That bit had to go and I'd have removed it myself if I'da noticed it. Lord Bob 19:12, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It really doesn't make sense to conflate professional football with the NFL. Records applicable for leagues like the CFL cannot be compared to NFL records because of the dramatically higher level of the NFL. The CFL is not a destination league for those with NFL talent; it is a developmental league for players struggling to make NFL rosters or it is a place where they go when their level of competition is not up to the NFL level anymore. 2601:182:4381:E60:8D4D:2290:FB1A:3006 (talk) 06:56, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Grandfather?!

The Globe and Mail mentions that Allen is a grandfather. How many Football players are grandfathers? Should this be mentioned in the Personal Life section of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.231.11.56 (talk) 13:30, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Move?

Damon Allen → Damon Allen (American football) — There are two hatlinks at the top of this page, so I think it would be much better to have Damon Allen be a disambiguation page. — 70.20.92.74 (talk) 18:42, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Not uncontroversial. This Damon Allen is primary usage as a far more likely search term (the contender being Damon Allen (figure skater)). Jafeluv (talk) 20:11, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also for the vast majority of his career he has played for Canadian CFL teams so Americian Footbal is misleading. --76.69.165.66 (talk) 03:00, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The following comment was moved here from Wikipedia:Requested moves:

Suggestion: move to Damon Allen (footballer) (suffix is "footballer" instead) AND make Damon Allen a protected redirect to the footballer: this keeps the direct link going to primary usage, but it will also allow easy maintenance of Special:WhatLinksHere/Damon Allen by being able to disambiguate and empty its incoming links. (If you keep an article at Damon Allen then you can never automatically sort out links in error from the sea of correct links because you can't empty it.) That's how I've seen it done at many articles, isn't that already documented somewhere? 62.147.39.212 (talk) 11:43, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't think it's documented anywhere, and I don't think it should be done that way. This policy says that we should use "the most common name of the person or thing that is the subject of the article", unless additional identifiers are needed for distinguishing the article from others with the same name. Here, the common name of the person is "Damon Allen", and since this Damon allen is primary topic (I don't believe anyone's questioning that), he doesn't need additional identifiers for disambiguation – a hatnote link to the other Damon Allens (or, alternatively, a disambiguation page) is enough so that the reader can find any other Damon Allen without trouble. To answer your point about link maintenance, see this policy: "'The names of Wikipedia articles should be optimized for readers over editors, and for a general audience over specialists." Readers will expect to find the Damon Allen they're most likely searching for at Damon Allen, not Damon Allen (additional identifier). The latter can and should be used if it is needed to distinguish the person from the other uses (as is the case with Damon Allen (figure skater)). It should not, however, be used just to make things easier for editors. Readers are the ones we should be primarily concerned about. Since Damon Allen the footballer is clearly the primary topic, I oppose the move. Jafeluv (talk) 19:54, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This request has been active for over 7 days, and I'm now removing it from the backlog at Requested moves as a "no consensus". It appears that this Damon Allen is the primary topic for the title "Damon Allen", and other disambiguation should be accomplished with a hatnote, whether to two separate articles or to one disambiguation page. I'd be inclined to leave it the way it is unless a fourth Damon Allen appears, but it's not a big deal either way. -GTBacchus^(talk) 07:38, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Damon Allen that plays football is not a footballer as someone said. Among American football (so-called because it was invented there and as a differentiation from soccer) the term is always football player. Footballer sounds like a European name for a soccer player.2601:182:4381:E60:8D4D:2290:FB1A:3006 (talk) 06:58, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Damon Allen/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

I'm also torn between start and B-class! Without being sure, I chose start, because of the lack of citations and because it is not a very expanded article; the presence of many stubby sections that could be expanded or merged is another problematic factor. Maybe a second opinion would be helpful!--Yannismarou 17:36, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 17:36, 17 January 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 12:44, 29 April 2016 (UTC)