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As far as I can tell, the DeskNote is not a category of PC, but a specific laptop made by ECS. The article seems to waver between calling it a "desknote" (lowercase), similar to a "laptop" or "desktop", and calling it by its trademark name, DeskNote. Is this actually the case? If so, the term shouldn't be used in the more general sense of referring to "desknote computers." -- Wapcaplet 23:52 18 Jul 2003 (UTC)

The term is actually "desktop replacement". I'm going to be bold and change the title (and content) accordingly, for three reasons:

Desknote is not nearly as common a term as "Desktop Replacement", and the two are essentially synonymous. Google returns three times as many hits for the latter as for the former.
This article seems pretty uncertain on what, exactly, constitutes a "desknote" - does the iMac even count? I thought they had to be similar in form to a laptop, in which case a better example would be the 17" MacBook Pro, or any other 17"+ laptop.
"Desktop Replacement Computer" is a far more common term, but currently has no article. I'll redirect from here to Desktop replacement computer.

Hope this isn't too much of an issue. RandyWang 13:38, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Desknotes is listed under Laptop

So are Desktop replacements which seem to be described somewhat differently than in this Desktop replacement computer article.

I don't know who is right but there seems to be consider confusion and overlapping articles on this subject. Desktop replacement computers appears to be an orphaned article. (I am new here and may not know what I am talking about.)

KarenAnn 14:37, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

P.S. See Penn State 'Desknote' Buyer's Guide

Also, Webopedia - What is desknote?

When I moved, I intended to have the article define its subject more specifically than "Desknote" did: that is, to be a bulky laptop that takes the role of a desktop computer, rather than "anything that combines features of the two". If there are still some discrepancies, we'll need to work them out - thanks for noting them. But yes, it should be listed under "laptop", since that's technically what they are.

Of course, if this doesn't work out, we may need to create separate articles for each. Perhaps we should add a "Desknote" section to this page, in the meantime? RandyWang (^raves/_rants) 00:28, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'm confused too, but I do think it needs to be cleared up. KarenAnn 01:13, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I'll take a look at it when I have the time (possibly not until tomorrow). If you want to clear it up yourself, though, feel free - I guess the only real difficulty is in deciding on a definition. :) RandyWang (^raves/_rants) 02:37, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup tag

Many statements in the article are later contradicted, making the article confusing. For example, the article says in the intro paragraph that desktop replacements use standard parts, but says in the last paragraph ("problems with desktop replacements" I think) that they can't.--Frenchman113 on wheels! 21:57, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Desktop replacement computer versus desknote

I googled both of them and the only desktop replacement computer definition that google comes up with is this article in Wikipedia. There are somewhat more responses to desknote. I have no opionion on the subject but this discussion is the reason citations and references are so important. Statements have no credibility otherwise and are just opinions. See Wikipedia:Citing sources. To quote this Wikipedia page:

Providing sources for edits is mandated by Wikipedia:No original research and Wikipedia:Verifiability, which are policy. This means that any material that is challenged and has no source may be removed by any editor. See those pages and Wikipedia:Reliable sources for more information.

We can upgrade this page enormously if we follow the Wikipedia policy. Otherwise, Desktop replacement computer page will languish in the dustbin. KarenAnn 23:49, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

There are 1.4 million google hits for "desktop replacement" and 500,000 for "desknote." TomTheHand 17:16, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think that, for simplicity's sake, "Desktop replacement computer" is a far more useful entry name than "desknote". I have never heard that term before now, and I am currently typing this on one of these so-called "desknotes". I always heard them referred to as desktop replacements, and it really makes more sense than "desknote". "Desknote" is just a merging of two words, and while shorter, could mean many things. How about a note that one puts on a desk? It doesn't suggest any electronic device at all. And, as stated above, Google suggests desktop replacement to be the more commonly referenced phrase.Di4gram 00:49, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This article's name needs to be changed to desknote

Other computer articles, e.g. laptop talk about desknote but anyone who clicks desknote gets this article instead. That must be confusing to anyone trying to learn about the subject! KarenAnn 10:51, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

They're the same thing; since the same information was extant in both desknotes and this article, I redirected the former and removed the merge tag from the latter. RasputinAXP c 14:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The merge does not seem complete, since the word "desknote" is missing from this article. This is important if the redirect is to make sense. Notinasnaid 16:26, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Desktop replacement computer does not even show up on Google (except for this Wikipedia article, nor is it mentioned in any of the other computer articles in Wikipedia. Why use a name that no one else uses? I don't understand. Plus, I took my material and put a lot of work into a Desknotes page and now that page and the work I put into it is completely gone. KarenAnn 17:05, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Also, my section was completely removed from the article. It is totally gone. Everything I did is gone. The same thing happened to me on the Fidel Castro page. Just ask mensch who was kind enough to work hard at restoring it. There removing someone's contributions without discussion was consided by mensch as against Wikipedia policy. KarenAnn 17:05, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree that "desknote" should be mentioned. I removed the "Comparison to desknotes" section because the terms are essentially synonymous, the content was just copied and pasted from a couple of online definitions, and one of the definitions was inaccurate. TomTheHand 17:08, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removing duplicate material is, however, in accordance with policies. You should make the case that your material is not duplicating the same ground, or saying the same thing in a different way. Look closely at both to decide, I know how easy it is to get attached to your own words. "Everything I did is gone" is the normal experience, what matters is whether the final article is better. If it isn't better, say so. Quote specific cases to say why. Above all, engage: stay in the discussion, nothing will happen if you go somewhere else. Notinasnaid 17:10, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I no longer have access to my material anymore since it has been deleted. Otherwise, I could follow your advice and do as you suggest and perhaps learn something. Anyway, I had just started that subsection when I a got nasty message regarding it on my talk page. I get the message and will go away KarenAnn 18:07, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

You material wasn't deleted, it was redirected; the information you had is still in the page history. When I redirected it the Desknote section still existed in this article. That said, the Desknote seems to me to be less of a general term than it is a specific model from a manufacturer. Desktop replacement machines encompass both large laptops and the "desknote" segment and is widely used in the IT industry. RasputinAXP c 18:12, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

KarenAnn, as several people have pointed out, much of what you wrote in "Desknote" was just quoted definitions from other web sites. These are considered less good than rewritten text, so will tend to be deleted. But you have made an important mistake, one that is easy to make, so I will point it out here in the hope it won't catch so many people in future. You quoted a definition from "The Free Dictionary" on http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Desknote. Well, suppose it was rewritten, couldn't this at least be a reference? Unfortunately, absolutely not. Why? Read to the bottom of the page: "This article is copied from an article on Wikipedia.org - the free encyclopedia created and edited by online user community." In other words, you are quoting from a site, which just copied from Wikipedia, at some time in the past when the article was different. There are now lots and lots of sites which copy Wikipedia, and it's important to watch out for this when looking for accurate sources for Wikipedia articles! Notinasnaid 21:41, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The image used for this article has the following caption:

An Apple MacBook Pro 17" is often used as a desktop replacement.

However, the MacBook Pro pictured above the caption is a 15" model. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.93.52.236 (talk) 11:42, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thats hardly a desktop replacement laptop its just 1. something inches bigger than a normal laptop this category is more suited to 18.4 and 20.1 inch desktop replacements , Ive updated the image with the 2008 modal of the HDX 9000 a 20.1 inch desktop replacement laptop as far as i know it is the latest 20.1 inch behemoth produced —Preceding unsigned comment added by RaymondT IE (talk • contribs) 01:36, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Desktop Replacements Are Not Short Lived

They are still made, so that introduction needs to be changed. I am going to buy one for myself.

In Correct (talk) 20:24, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The article name doesn't seem right.

The article name is Mobile Workstation, but the description seems to simply describe a performant laptop. In my opinion, laptops like ZBook or Precision have different orientation than models like Clevo x7200. Shouldn't the two be separated? Undefined~kowiki (talk) 07:15, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]