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- Mailer Diablo 11:07, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Universiade

Hi, welcome to Wikipedia. Could you explain in your Universiade just what a Universiade is? Rick K 10:03, Jan 9, 2005 (UTC)

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Rainier III, Prince of Monaco

Sorry I reverted your edit alongside some earlier vandalism. Someone had spammed a link to an irrelevant site into the article. You restored your edit before I managed to. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 13:16, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Benedict XVI

Our edits just crossed and I think I wiped out your las tone vandalism removing, --SqueakBox 01:03, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

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Edits to Monaco articles

I don't understand your changes to the Hereditary Prince(ss) succession boxes. Perhaps you could explain your edits at Talk:Hereditary Prince of Monaco, preferably with sources? Also, for clarity, could you correct the list of Hereditary Princes in that article? Regards — Dan | Talk 21:35, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Do you think this is clear ?

L?opold

FYI, Leopold is written without diacriticals in Dutch. Leopold III was descendant of a German nobility clan, related to Queen Victoria (the English one), married to a Swedish princess. That is, before WWII, during which period he married a Flemish girl. There's no preference to write his name either with an accent (diacritical) on the "e" or not in English (e.g. Encyclopaedia Britannica writes it without, and that's probably what English monarchs would have done at the time, unless adressing him in French). As you might know half of the country where he reigned spoke Dutch, writing his name without the accent.

So, this is a case about POV when changing from one way of writing it to the other (while indeed, the other half of the country wrote it with an accent). In this case, as usual for spelling questions, the spelling of the one who started the page has to be followed, see Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#National_varieties_of_English. Since I was the first to use a French/Dutch ambiguous word on that page, that would be me, and it's not the kind of changes you performed that helped wikipedia advance.

In case you wouldn't have guessed, I'm talking about this change, which additionally mixed up the footnote reference (while "ref" and "note" tag of the same footnote should have the reference written *exactly* the same way, see wikipedia:footnote3). So I'll have to change your edit to make the "ref" and "note" tag of the second footnote on the Republic page match again.

Thanks to have read thus far, but please find something more useful to do. --Francis Schonken 19:52, 27 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I could not agree more. - Karl Stas 09:39, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop reverting Leopold > Léopold and find something useful to do. Karl Stas 12:27, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the Asterix edit

Dear Hektor, Thanks for the edit in Asterix and the Cauldron page. Best wishes, --Cyril Thomas 20:22, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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You neglected to provide a source, and the source of which I am aware specifies this is not a NASA image but rather an outside company. (SEWilco 15:42, 20 September 2005 (UTC))[reply]

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You neglected to provide a source. Others have uploaded the same image correctly so your copy is not longer being used. And please use less ambiguous names. (SEWilco 16:25, 20 September 2005 (UTC))[reply]

template:talkheader

I suggested it for deletion. I appreciate your intentions, but I think it is basically useless. Please refrain from using it until a decision is made. Generally, it is a good idea to discuss something which will influence a very large number of pages. mikka (t) 17:11, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I have seen that this has survived a vote for deletion, so i thought the issue was now decided. I dont think we should vote for deletion for the same stuff every two weeks.Hektor 17:18, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Article titles of Chinese people

Article titles of Chinese people should not have diacritics in them. Right now articles on Chinese people and places do not have diacritics. WhisperToMe 04:07, 16 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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The rubric in the template says that magazine covers can be used by Wikipedia under fair-use rules to illustrate the magazine; I read that as meaning that they can't be used to illustrate people (as in Anne Parillaud. I've removed it, but if you disagree with me, you might want to discuss it at Talk:Anne Parillaud (or at the relevant Wikipedia pages). --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 21:37, 27 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's not personal; there's a general attempt in Wikipedia to cut back on non-fair-use of fair-use images. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 22:27, 28 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

auto infobox colors

Can you stop changing these please? All the infoboxes for different topics are color coded. The auto ones do need changed, but to the automobile standard color specified at Wikipedia:WikiProject Automobiles/Layouts. If you're going to change them, change them to that. Thanks. --Jamieli 22:46, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if you have noticed, but red is the color of Citroen. Keep green for Jaguar.Hektor 23:04, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

All the infoboxes are color-coded, different for each topic. i.e. all the automobile ones are supposed to be white on dark green, orange on black is music albums, saints are black on yellow, etc. See Wikipedia:Infobox. --Jamieli 23:52, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

So be it.Hektor 06:00, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Lincoln Table Colors

Why did you change the Colors on all Lincoln Tables from blue on lightgrey to white on red. Is that the new standard? Please let me know on my talk page, thanks. Gerdbrendel 02:34, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for MKS Link

Thanks for adding the Lincoln MKS link on my user talk page. I apreciate it. Gerdbrendel 22:08, 21 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Simone Veil president?

Hektor -- are you certain that Veil is not being mentioned as a presidential candidate? I seem to remember recent polls and articles which have said this.

--Kessler 22:21, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well she will be 80 in 2007, and is still a member of the Constitutional Council. I have not seen any mention of a possible candidacy from Mrs. Veil. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me a very far stretch.Hektor 22:24, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, looks like I may have been remembering "personnalités préférées des Français" sondages: remarkable lists, these, for instance,

"Renaud passe de la 6e à la 3e place, devant Florent Pagny et l'acteur Jean Reno, qui fait un bond de la 32e à la 5e place. Autre remontée spectaculaire, celle de la comédienne Mimie Mathy, qui passe de 45e à la 9e place. Le chanteur Michel Sardou est dixième.Le chanteur d'origine rwandaise Corneille fait son entrée à la 18e place, tout comme l'humoriste et metteur en scène Valérie Lemercier (32e) et le chanteur Alain Souchon (39e)... l'ancienne ministre *Simone Veil* est la mieux placée à la 37e place, devant Bernard Kouchner (42e). La présidente socialiste de la région Poitou-Charentes Ségolène Royal fait son entrée à la 50e place ainsi que le premier ministre Dominique de Villepin, 52e. Le porte-parole de la Ligue communiste révolutionnaire (LCR), Olivier Besancenot, est 53e. Le président Jacques chirac est absent de ce classement..." [[1]]

-- I wonder how one gets bumped from 52e to 53e, or vice versa... maybe better not to know...

If I turn up a présidentielles sondage showing Mme. Veil I'll let you know here.

--Kessler 16:57, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Quite simple, they take a sample of 1000 to 1500 people, with the usual representativity of the French population, and they show them a preliminary list of maybe 150-200 people selected beforehand and then they ask them to classify them according to their preference, then they make the total according to an algorithm to get this list. And after that the journalists can write pages and pages.Hektor 18:06, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sheikh Saad

Hi. Regarding the several pages on the issue of Kuwait's Emir. Please understand that yes, Sheikh Saad did abdicate, however it is not official that Sheikh Sabah is the new emir. We cant publish information before it happens. I reverted most of your edits, but please feel free to declare that Sheikh Sabah is the emir once he is officially sworn in as emir. Thank you. -Zer0fighta 03:56, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, once again you're jumping the gun. Saad has only been NOMINATED emir, has not been voted in by congress yet although it is scheduled soon, and has not taken the oath of office. Furthermore, Sheikh Saad had agreed to abdicate, and although there was a vote to remove him from the position of emir, he was not "desposed of" as you stated in the National Assembly of Kuwait page, he had made the decision to abdicate with the influence of members of the Al-Sabah family. -Zer0fighta 21:30, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't jump any gun, I used the exact same words used by The Times. Kuwait parliament deposes its ailing emir Hektor 22:15, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lillehammer

Hi thanks for the response - I personally don't disagree but I have seen similar comments made elsewhere just removed as unsubstantiated. Also I think others have said the same here and had it removed. May even have been you - haven't been through the history. So it was just a prompt to do it the wiki way and get your point referenced. all the best :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)} 16:30, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Audi R8

Following someones suggestion that was opposed by me, you moved Audi R8 to Audi R8 Race Car (1999-2005) resp. Audi R8 Road Car (2006-). When I reverted, you reverted back. Recently also User:208.46.78.226 supported you - coincidence? Forgotten to log in? Sock puppet? You better be more careful and less arrogant. --Matthead 16:23, 5 February 2006 (UTC) {{Sockpuppet|1=208.46.78.226|evidence=[[Talk:Audi_R8_Race_Car]]}}[reply]

Sockpuppet template disabled by me, as the accusation does not stack up but the category it puts on the page gives all visitors an unjustified negative impression of the user.-gadfium 18:45, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am right now on a computer which does not accept cookies, therefore I forgot to log on, because it is unusual for me. I think that regarding arrogance, I can take lessons from you. And technically a sock puppet is a second user name, which I haven't, I have only this one. And I stand by my comments, I have nothing to hide.Hektor 18:30, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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There is a better Acadiane picture in the Commons. This image can be deleted without any problem.Hektor 02:57, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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For the dates, I've been using days of competition - thus, by this article from day 1 of the games (the day after the opening ceremony), the opening ceremony does not get a day moniker. This was supported on day 2 at the talkpage of 2006 Winter Olympics by stickguy, who then changed the headers. Since then, I think we've been the only ones to change it back and forth, so I'm hoping we can come to a resolution without seeking others. 'Tis it, please reply at my talk page, I'll forget to check here, thanks. -- Jjjsixsix ^(talk)/_(contribs) @ 22:22, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Naw, I don't feel that strongly about it, though I did just change it back again. I'm pretty sure of it, since I just surfed around the internet and found Yahoo! is basically the only one saying 17, but I think it's better to do what the IOC says? Eh, in the long run, it probably doesn't matter much. Regards, and happy editing! -- Jjjsixsix ^(talk)/_(contribs) @ 22:40, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Concerning Sochi

You reverted my edit in 2014 Winter Olympics regarding the climate in Sochi. Googling for Sochi and tropical certainly isn't a proof; you can google for Sochi and temperate to get the opposite result. According to BBC Weather, the average conditions in Sochi look very much like those in Paris. Is Paris subtropical?

Last time I went there, there were palm trees in Sochi. There are not that many of them in Paris. [2] [3] [4] . And you called that nonsense, which was not exactly kind. Hektor 20:53, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This is a personnal scan of the book cover? how should I tag ?Hektor 06:16, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Criterion of Equinox

Sorry for the revert of that title. However, I would like to recommend that you provide a link to "hidden" graphics on the official site like that if you're going to add them to the list without being officially announced. Either a direct source link on the page itself or in the comments section of the edit as you just did. Otherwise someone checking the Criterion site will see no evidence for it and revert, as I did. Thanks for the heads up on that title, though. I look forward to catching it on DVD! Girolamo Savonarola 15:22, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

External links (such as Mark Shuttleworth)

Please do not add commercial links (or links to your own private websites) to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or a mere collection of external links. You are, however, encouraged to add content instead of links to the encyclopedia. See the welcome page to learn more. Thanks. dewet|™ 10:03, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Where do you take that spacefacts is a commercial link ? why do you allow in this case to put link to Imdb for each movie with this kind of rule ?

Spacefacts adds no value to the article — especially in MS's case, since there's no new information there.
You've also gone and added it to a number of articles, which is frowned upon at Wikipedia, since it does seem to indicate some sort of "advertisement drive".
Also, as I said above, off-site content is (per definition) useless to a print edition of Wikipedia.
Re IMDB: That's like asking why we add ISBN numbers to book articles. I do not condone IMDB, but for film buffs it is considered an "authorative" source, whereas spacefacts does not (at first glance) seem to be. Google for "astronaut information" and compare it to "film information".

I hope that answers your questions. dewet|™ 10:38, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with you.Hektor 17:26, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry you feel that way. However, it is consensus and both a guideline and official policy on Wikipedia. I suggest you read those two links, as well as the external links guide and a more more philosophical discussion on the issue for more information. dewet|™ 17:56, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

All this is not very convincing.Hektor 18:04, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

contrib comments?

Hello, can you please comment your edits? [5] All the community will be thankfull for that. Regards, Moala 04:11, 23 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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It Takes a Thief

Fair enough, but the onus is still upon you to provide a citation, therefore I have added a "citation needed" tag. Don't assume that such things are common knowledge. For precedent and example, please see the extensively sourced article Casino Royale (2006 film). I have also tweaked the wording slightly to remove editorializing. 23skidoo 13:32, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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We still need more information. Please see the image page. Thanks! JesseW, the juggling janitor 10:24, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

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Zara Whites

You've put the Dutch actors category back in the article on Zara Whites, but she is already in it's subcategory Dutch porn stars, so is it ok if I remove the category again? - Ilse@ 16:29, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well she did also some non hard core porn film so I thought this would qualify her as an actress, because there was some actual acting involved (mean delivering lines, playing in situation, expressing emotions and such). But really that is not a big deal.Hektor 16:31, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I understand your consideration. As far as I could find the films she played in according to the IMDb were all adult films. And I think all porn stars are considered actors in one way or another. - Ilse@ 08:42, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So go ahead and removeHektor 10:33, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Expedition 13

I don't understand why you removed Marcos Pontes from the list of crew members. The news reports linked to from the article and from Current events include him. I also am confused at the inclusion of Thomas Reiter in the article, as he's supposed to be on a later shuttle mission. Can you explain?-gadfium 06:50, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My question has been answered on Talk:Expedition 13. I'd like to apologise to you at this point for using the admin rollback on your edit to Expedition 13. I thought at the time that your edit might be vandalism, and my thinking was influenced by the sockpuppet categorisation of this talk page. I now accept that your edit was not vandalism (although I am not convinced it was correct). I suggest you edit the accusation of sockpuppetry on this talk page to remove the category, as it appears to be without foundation and leads to casual visitors here to draw the wrong conclusion. If you would prefer not to remove the accusation yourself, let me know and I'll remove it for you.-gadfium 08:57, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed I'd prefer you remove it yourself. Well with 13000+ edits I have run into remarkably little trouble so far. A guy who was not happy about an edit I did about a German car he likes put the sockpuppet thing (an error of mine, I forgot to connect before I edited, because the computer I was using was not accepting cookies). I thought it would look even more suspect if I'd removed it myself.

Regarding expeditions, here is my point. The Expeditions are Governmental flights by astronauts who are from the International partners of the International space station and which are governed by the Intergovernmental Agreement of the ISS. The flight of Pontes is a commercial flight which is paid by the Brazilian Government directly to the Russian Space Agency Roscosmos (It is written here). So Pontes is travelling WITH expedition 13 but is not part of expedition 13. It is very similar situation to Roberto Vittori (ESA) with Expedition 11 and Gregory Olsen (Self-funded) with Expedition 12. Hektor 10:31, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have disabled the template. My concern at the Expedition 13 article was that Current events made a big deal over the first Brazilian in space, but the article didn't even mention him. I'm now entirely satisfied with it.-gadfium 18:47, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well when I look at the front page: "NASA and the Russian Federal Space Agency launch Expedition 13 to the International Space Station, including Marcos Pontes (pictured), the first Brazilian in space. " I think it would have been much more clearer and exact to write : "NASA and the Russian Federal Space Agency launch Soyuz TMA-8 to the International Space Station, including Marcos Pontes (pictured), the first Brazilian in space. "

That Coste kid

Truce? I'd send you an email, but you don't receive them. ___ If it helps any, were she calling him Stephan Coste, I'd still be putting in the Eric Alexandre parts. Alphabeter 06:47 18, April, 2006 (CST)

Google gives 17 hits for Eric Alexandre Coste and 10,000 for Alexandre Coste.Hektor 17:14, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Any insights on L'Affaire Clearstream?

Is the woman defence ministre in trouble? John wesley 16:52, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This Clearstream thing is very difficult to understand. I don't know about the Defence Minister.Hektor 18:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WRC WikiProject

Seeing you have made a few edits to the World Rally Championship pages would you think there is any milage in a WikiProject in a similar mold (but a but more modest) to the F1 WikiProject. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 16:56, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be worthwile to establish some coherence in the articles and keep them up-to-date.Hektor 18:10, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was watching French news

And I saw a item about Lionel Jospin perhaps coming out of the political exile he had imposed on himself after the debacle of his election campaign loss to LePen John wesley 17:02, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think he left France and went to Québec... never heard that ? Hektor 18:11, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

re: Michael E. Fossum

When editing an article on Wikipedia there is a small field labeled "Edit summary" under the main edit-box. It looks like this:

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Filling in the edit summary field greatly helps your fellow contributors in understanding what you changed, so please always fill in the edit summary field, especially for big edits or when you are making subtle but important changes, like changing dates or numbers. Thank you. NetK 08:15, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think you don't use your anti-vandalism tools with enough caution. Hektor 08:21, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Edit summary

Yes, that template may look patronizing, but please do use an edit summary. It really helps your fellow editors in understanding what you changed. So it is a small effort for you but saves time to others. :) Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 15:30, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikibooks

I would encourage you not to request just anything be transwikied over to Wikibooks. You recently voiced a desire to transwiki various lists of cliches to WB. This type of thing is not really suitable for Wikibooks. Sorry to have to say anything, but we at WB are trying not to be Wikipedia's dumping ground any longer. Thanks! See you around, my friend. --Mark Neelstin ^{(Dark Mark)} 00:45, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Suzanne's Career

Some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Suzanne's Career may not be sufficiently well-known to merit articles of their own. The Wikipedia community welcomes newcomers, and encourages them to become Wikipedians. On Wikipedia, each user is entitled to a user page in which they can describe themselves, and this article's content may be incorporated into that page. However, to merit inclusion in the encyclopedia proper, a subject must be notable. We encourage you to write or improve articles on notable subjects. Jachin 07:01, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well that's interesting, a movie by one of the most important living French directors, Éric Rohmer, and which will be available in the best DVD collection in the US, Criterion, is vanity ? Could you explain ?Hektor 07:08, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

EADS Space

Hi. You changed references to EADS Space to Astrium AND EADS Astrium to Astrium. As far as I can make out the divisions are: [6]

EADS SPACE Transportation
EADS Astrium
EADS SPACE Services
EADS Sodern
CILAS
Shareholdings in Arianespace, Starsem, Eurockot & Spot Image
Paradigm
Infoterra

Regards--Mark83 22:02, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

EADS SPACE has been renamed "Astrium, an EADS company" to align with other companies of EADS which each have their own name (Eurocopter, Airbus). EADS SPACE Transportation is now Astrium Space Transportation and the former EADS Astrium is now Astrium Satellites. For some reason (?) EADS SPACE Services remains unchanged. Names change, that's part of corporate life.Hektor 22:28, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've reverted your edit again, for two reasons:

The reference you gave says the changes wont come into effect until July 1st.
It clearly states "The new group will now be called EADS Astrium instead of EADS Space."

Also "uninformed" isn't that bad as far as personal attacks go, but please refrain from it. I don't claim to be an authority, I'm just going on the EADS website (pretty authoritative on the subject!) and the reference you're quoting. Regards --Mark83 23:26, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Believe whatever you want, my statement hereabove is correct, and you are just contributing to the inaccuracy of wikipedia. However I have better to do than start edit wars. The former name of 'EADS SPACE' has disappeared and the name of the company is 'Astrium, an EADS company'. This has been decided because Airbus is called Airbus and not EADS Airbus and Eurocopter is not EADS Eurocopter but 'Eurocopter, an EADS company'. Regards. Hektor 06:16, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I do believe what I am saying, because I have seen no evidence to the contrary. And i suspect the reason Airbus is not called "EADS Airbus" is not because of some decision about corporate identity but because it isn't (yet) a wholly owned subsidiary of EADS. --Mark83 10:36, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Look here. Hektor 11:22, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't argue with you about the name of Eurocopter because it IS a wholly owned subsidiary. Look, bottom line, there is no evidence anywhere that I can see that states EADS Astrium and EADS Space are being renamed. Mark83 17:34, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]