Anthony Burgess should definately receive more credit for A Clockwork Orange. He isn't metioned, only Stanley Kubrick is. I believe the author deserves a little more credit. He can still be attributed to being inspired by 1984 because Burgess wrote twelve years after Orwell, in 1962.
I vote to leave 1984 at Nineteen Eighty-Four so it doesn't get confused with the year article -- I never did like the idea of making all those year articles, anyway.
Or we could figure out a good disambiguation, based on the way most readers would try to look up the book. --Ed Poor
Here's the Cliff Notes (image)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0764585851.01._PE_PIdp-schmoo2,TopRight,7,-26_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg
- All I know is that dear departed Dr. Harker threatened us with lingering death if we were to ever refer to the book by numerals. Here's a hardbound edition. - user:Montrealais
- Do a "what links here": we have a selection of redirects to choose from :) I'm not sure if it's words or numbers. -- Tarquin
Whatever you and Tarquin want is fine -- I'm not going to engage in an edit war over it. --Ed Poor
I don't know who your "Dr. Harker" is, but it appears to me that the title of the book in the references I checked is indeed "1984", not "Nineteen Eighty-Four"; what reference do you have to the contrary, other than the picture you referenced (I can just as easily show a picture of my copy, which has "1984" on the cover)? --LDC
I suppose this doesn't help your case any. --KQ
- I can't get at my copy of the novel, but George Orwell's Essays, Journalism, and Letters, three volumes, edited by his widow and a noted Orwell scholar, refer to the book as Nineteen Eighty-Four as do two of the three standard references I checked. Nonetheless, 1984 is common and universally recognized. You can't trust book designers. (See E. E. Cummings. Naturally, Cliff's Notes would use the shorter form. It doesn't give the full title of The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn either. Ortolan88
- Good point. --KQ
I agree, book covers are not authoritative here; a listing in something like a Library of Congress catalog would be ideal. --LDC
- FWIW, my university's library's catalogue returns "Nineteen Eighty-Four" even for the term "1984".
- Having investigated at the Library of Congress, I find that they catalogue all editions of the book under the heading "Nineteen Eighty-Four", even the ones which were printed as "1984"; the only related works catalogued under "1984" are films. user:Montrealais
Cool. The 1984 page then should probably have a link here...I'll go do that. --LDC
- Already does :) -m
Anyone want to make a case for a seperate "Orwellian" page? It could include a history of the use of the term, if we can find one. I agree with merging it in here, at least for now. If the discussion of "Orwellian" here becomes long, then it could be moved. -- Sam
We need a good review quote or two to show that a lot of people think that 1984 is "bitingly satirical and nightmarish". I think this is the prevailing view, although it probably should be attributed. -- Sam
In 1982 Crass sang; " Big brother ain't watching you,mate, your fuckin' watching him..."... In these days of jade, davina, et al, were they prescient or what??????????" thank you and good night, you've been a wondeful audience... quercus robur 02:23 Dec 30, 2002 (UTC)
- With web cameras (webcams) now being commonplace, the privacy of home computer users falls under even greater question.
This is a bad addition; webcams are controlled by the user, the threat to privacy currently comes from spyware and related software. --Sam 12:35, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)