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Club Suffix

Are they correctly Leeds United F.C. or (as it says on the outside of Elland Road) Leeds United A.F.C.?--L.E./12.144.5.2/le@put.com

UEFA say AFC as well, and it gets a fair proportion of Google hits. sjorford 10:15, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I do trust UEFA, but I think it's worth noting that the official site displays the club crest inscribed LUFC. However, there is an alternative Leeds United AFC crest which I have found here
SimonMayer 10:50, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
"Leeds United FC" the "A" was taken out when Gerald Krasner took over. Dee4leeds 12:36, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have a reference?--Vindicta 22:20, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The A in AFC was NOT removed when Krasner's lot took over, It came away from the badge when it changed to the shield back in 1998 (Ridsdale's Term) as they wanted it to use the 70's LUFC style in a new badge. The club has always and will always be an Association Football Club whether they choose to put it in the badge or not. As you can see here, between 1979 and 2000 the badge had AFC on (Krasner took over in 2003/4) and between 1960 and 1971 there was no wording whatsoever on the badge. The Original badge states "Leeds United A.F.C." below the original club crest. UEFA and the stadium are correct, Leeds ARE an AFC whether they choose to use the A in their badge is surely up to them. --Chappy84 22:43, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well I was going to comment on this, but I like to do a bit of research before diving in with both feet, and I am suprised to find that yes they are AFC as this page on the Football Association's site confirms. Jooler 17:45, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The O'Leary Period - "Living the Dream"

There seems to be a lot of non-NPOV in here which needs eliminating. Bornintheguz 18:25, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC) i think its okay


It was a turbulent period with the court case and the murders. I believe it's relative to this day and era, which should be fine.--Vindicta 00:39, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Why is the subtitle now "The O'Leary Period: Nearly Men"? Should it not be "Living the Dream"? Discussions? --Vindicta 23:12, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

O'Leary Living the Dream

The chronology is out of order and needs editing. Reference is made to the UEFA semi-final campaign, then the Champions League campaign, then in a later paragraph returns to the UEFA semi-final campaign.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Johnson_%28Scottish_footballer%29

To my knowledge there is no player at Leeds by the name. And even on the off chance there is a new youth academy member of that name the info on that page: "He dropped his surname in favour of 'Johnson' when he learned of his father's evil ways of murdering innocent Iraqi civilians", "He is nicknamed "The Mole" because he has a large growth on the side of his face" is probably wrong :)

Mark Judge

Someone's added Mark Judge as a notable Leeds player. I've never heard of him, and can't find a mention on google. Can someone confirm if this is real or not, and revert if not? Thanks

Never heard of him, i think delete him

Another Revival ?

"If Leeds do win promotion, it would be unfair to expect them to stay in the Premiership at the first attempt. The aim of the first season will likely be consolidation and ensuring survival."

This statement is too subjective, I have edited out the 'unfairness'.--Vindicta 23:00, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]


"Bates has headed three other league football clubs but most famously, importantly and recently Chelsea F.C."

I'm editing out the "importantly and recently", because I don't believe it adds anything. Plus "recently" will be out of date in the future.--Vindicta 23:04, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Simply, this article is not a link directory or a place to advertise fansites and forums - see WP:NOT, When to link externally and WP:EL.

This is particularly pertinent here, as the content of forums and fansites is almost by definition unencyclopaedic - it is unsourced, unvetted, uncited and by nature non-neutral.

Instead, I have linked to the dmoz.org page on Leeds United - this is an open directory of weblinks which contains most of the sites previously listed. This way the sites are still only two clicks away, but we are not claiming to use the sites as sources, nor are we providing free advertising.

Aquilina 18:18, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]


For inclusion

If this article heads towards FA status one day, they might want to include this - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/leeds_united/5332286.stm source as to players being paid after leaving the club. HornetMike 20:03, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This page is infact included as a note in the article in reference to the diminishing debt of the club. Chappy84 11:16, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jon Newsome

Hi - a while ago I created an article for Jon Newsome. Do any LUFC Wikipedians have any info about his early career at Leeds that they could add to it? If so, feel free.....thanks! User:Demonicanglian 19:57, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS to move page, per discussion below. I also went ahead and moved the Sunderland and Workington articles to "AFC" titles. -GTBacchus(talk) 01:44, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

Leeds United AFC → Leeds United A.F.C. – I have no opinion on this move, but I found it at WP:RM without any discussion indicating what to do, so I've relisted it, and I'm setting up this discussion to obtain some consensus. -GTBacchus(talk) 02:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Survey

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Discussion

Add any additional comments

I would like to note that this article was moved from the "A.F.C." title in August, but it was a copy/paste move. I've gone ahead and merged the histories, keeping the entire GFDL history at this location. If it's decided that this page needs to move again, please do so with administrative assistance, so we can avoid the problems associated with copy/paste moves. Cheers. -GTBacchus(talk) 02:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid if you look in to the depths of the archives on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football the subject of whether it should be A.F.C. / F.C. or AFC/FC for all clubs was addressed and a consensus was to use AFC / FC . See Here for its most recent mention. --Chappy84 09:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Look at Sunderland A.F.C. and Workington A.F.C. and others. Dots are used. Everton 10:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I know dots are used, the wikiproject are talking about creating a bot to move all of the pages across to the versions without dots. The version without dots is the general consensus that the wikiproject came to, they will all eventually be moved I presume, they just haven't yet, as I said, look through the archives of the wikiproject talk. --Chappy84 11:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

A note on British English

British English should be used for articles on Britain related topics. Likewise, American English should be used on articles pertaining to American topics. For a clearer example, please visit this sub-section on the differences between their usage. --Siva1979Talk to me 03:12, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tidy up/revision

No disrespect to anyone, but there are several grammatical errors+typos on the page. In addition, certain areas e.g. the Clough-Armfield-Adamson-Clarke eras need expanding in the History.

I've tried adding/revising, but my changes are being rolled back. Is there a forum where you have to agree/approve changes? Coopuk 17:21, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rivalries

Describing Sheffield Wednesday and United and Barnsley as West Riding of Yorkshire Derbies is entirely wrong, they are South Yorkshire clubs. NQuin 09:57, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please check the history of Yorkshire, before the parliament act in 1974 that created Humberside and South Yorkshire, Yorkshire had three ridings, these being North, East and West. This is the reason they are traditional West Riding of Yorkshire rivalries. Chappy84 20:50, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Last rollback

With regards to the last roll-back; I agree that the page should be a brief summary. However, I think you will find that my edited version is shorter and more concise that what you have rolled back to! Can you please justify the rollback? Coopuk 16:40, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See here, your version is on the left the reverted version on the right. Yours clearly just from a scan, without actually reading, has more info. As I have said before this should be a brief summary and extra info added should be added to Leeds United A.F.C. History. Plus as I said we were knocked out of the Champions league by Valencia who LOST the final to Bayern Munich on penalties, the version before revert had been changed to say we were knocked out by the eventual winners Valencia, which is obviously untrue, see here. Chappy84 22:08, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree entirely with your correction on Bayern Munich; however, the purpose of any summary is to avoid any specific references to players or scorelines, or else we should start putting references to all significant players and finals in the summary. My changes have done that, but you have reverted them entirely. In addition, the previous version was subjctive ("poisonous" - "hated rivals" - "hated Ridsdale") which again was corrected. Finally, the section I did expand was done so to explain the significance of why Leeds had to qualify for the Champions League, something which is not implict in the original article - which assumes that the reader knows the background.

May I point out that I am making the changes here because this is the first page that comes up when anyone searches for "Wikipedia" and "Leeds United". Because of this, it needs to be as generic as possible - hence my concern at you reverting all of the player and score references, as well as the subjective statements.

By all means make corrections where I have made mistakes, but to roll back changes whole scale is not in the spirit of Wikipedia.

Coopuk 22:28, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ground Ownership

The most recent documents available from the UK Land Registry show Elland Road as having passed into the hands of a British Virgin Islands company Teak Trading Limited. How do we advance discussion of this significant change in ownership?Barbaraville 17:13, 20 December 2006 (UTC) Barbara Ville[reply]

Get proof, i.e. an internet link. Chappy84 22:49, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

crest images

The background to the crest images needs to be changed so it's the same colour as the template it's on.

I'd also like to request someone upload an image of there old logo with the white rose Buc 17:05, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Uh Ah Cantona

No mention in the main body of the article about 'Le Eric' (and his problems with the racist fan) and later sale to Man. U? Seems like a big ommision to me.Don Rev up the motor and take me somewhere warm 01:48, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

good example to follow.

Check out the main page for Sheffield Wednesday F.C.. I think we need to moldel this article on it.Buc 21:48, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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