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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 141.150.119.171 (talk) at 07:37, 16 June 2003 (Please read and correct ASAP.... Thank you). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Sir, can you please move Washington, DC into the District of Columbia, the name Washington, DC is not the legal name of this federal district, The City of Washington in technicially located in the District of Columbia. The way it is set up right now District of Columbia goes to Washington, DC it should be the reverse. Thank you kindly for your attention.

Jim, take a look at this choice little bit of deliberate troublemaking, which cost me (and a few other contributors who helped out) an entire wasted morning today. It went on for ages, as you'll see from the edit histories of the linked articles, not to mention the constant moving of pages. If an anon did it, he would have been bannned by now. No need for you to do anything at this stage, just keep your eyes open in case he starts buggering things up again. Tannin 13:59 2 Jun 2003 (UTC)

The tablets of stone, alas, exist only in the mailing list archives and scattered around a dozen different talk pages. Nevertheless, there is no question but that a clear consensus decision was reached, and that Eclecticology was way out of line yesterday. I'm astonished that a veteran contributor could have lost the plot as wildly as that, even stooping to cut & paste page moves at one stage. Maybe he was drunk or something - it seems quite out of character. Anyway, nice to hear that you saw your Black Lark. Bedtime for me, I'm bushed -- T

I'll take a look at tern taxonomy a little later, Jim. Been a long day for me. This being on holidays business is hard work! I'll tinker away at Insectivora for a while first, though, then maybe get some sleep. Tannin



Tonight I'll be rewriting both of the articles in whole. They may be obscure to the internet, but Trudy and Judith won my country's highest honour for arts patrons, other than the Order of Canada. As for no reference to Trudy, I can't find any either, in yet I found the page on her through Google. (Original page with her [[1]]].) - Zanimum

Message posted on Zanimum's Talk: I've had a look at a couple of your people accounts. Two problems: (1) although the copyright bits are acknowledged as such, this means they shouldn't really be there (2) The people are pretty obscure. The standard of whether they merit an entry is the number of Google hits. Trudy LeCaine gets none, and Judith Budovitch only 18 (not checked for relevance). The liklihood is that these articles will be deleted. Sorry if this is unhelpful jimfbleak 17:06 3 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Ha! Great minds think alike, it seems. A little earlier today, I added Wikipedia:Naming conventions (fauna). Well spoken on the mailing list, by the way. I'll add my voice if it seems to be needed - but only if it is needed. At this stage, simply continuing to add good quality content is in itself a powerful argument, I think. -- T
Morning, mate. That explains why I hadn't seen it before. These interminable species list certainly help a de facto argument too. Any thoughts on white tern taxonomy yet? Jim

Hi Jim. Read your message. Indeed it would be a good idea (taxobox). When I have some time I will give it a thought. Me too, taxonomy isn't really my thing. When I get to it I will let you know as I certainly will need some help with editing. AndrewUser:Vanderesch.

Good Lord, Jim! Don't give up now! What you are seeing is the last feeble twitchings of the corpse. Hang in there old son. They will not succeed in imposing ambiguous mediocrity on the fauna pages, because, when you get right down to it, the people with the expertise and the interest - people like you - are the life and soul of that part of the 'pedia. Without the Jimfbleaks and the Kingturtles and the Steve Novas of this world, Wikipedia wouldn't have a fauna section. Take a break.

Dr Tannin prescribes a good scotch, and a nice relaxing article on an obscure species of duck.

How about those South American ones that are obligate brood parasites? They are really interesting. Errr .... Black-headed Duck. (BTW, much as I like scotch, these days I seem to rarely take anything bar tea, but that in enormous quantities - hence my nic.) -- Tony

Dove looks good, Jim. I made some very minor changes. About 6 or 8 of the common names are different in the 2002 HANZAB list. That probably should be looked into at some stage, but I'm inclined to think we have more pressing tasks. HANZAB says : Family homogeneous, and attempts to group the 40-43 genera unsatisfactory. Doesn't help us much. I think a by-genus listing, huge and clumsy though it is, will have to do, at least until we (maybe) get around to splitting some of the larger genera off into sub-articles. BTW, great effort there! Bedtime! Tannin


Could you take a gander... no, put that male goose down! Not the feathers.... Anyway, could you take a quick look at Talk:Crane (bird)? -- John Owens 11:35 6 Jun 2003 (UTC)


If you want you own sand to play in you'd better have it. User:Jimfbleak/sandbox Hoe you like the pic ;-) Theresa knott 14:15 6 Jun 2003 (UTC)~



Hi, many thanks for welcome message on my talk page Trainspotter 15:19 6 Jun 2003 (UTC)


Hi, Mathsinger here. You said no Google hits for "Orrick Glenday Johns". Try "Orrick Johns". He was a notable poet, hung out with the likes of Ezra Pound, corresponded with Sara Teasdale & others. I think he deserves a place here. User:Mathsinger 6 June 2003 --


Beat me to my own spelling error in Bourbon whiskey. Dang this place is great! Wnissen 19:31 6 Jun 2003 (UTC)


Hey Jim, you already did it!! I dropped in to start and found it done. Next step a picture. Thanks and good work. Andrew a.k.a. Vanderesch (07/06/2003)


Thanks. It's not the most pleasant topic, but I certainly appreciate the help, as I am no expert on British slang. --Dante Alighieri 12:13 8 Jun 2003 (UTC)


Re: my talk page Thanks for the message. Unfortunately, I only noticed that my sandbox appeared as an article after I already saved it - that's why it was blank. So, where is it moved to now?


Jim,

Saw that you split the Ag article. I understand the rationale, but perhaps we should include some worldwide statitics in place of the deleted material.

Kat 17:49 9 Jun 2003 (UTC)


It was some kind of mental brain inversion. I thought that a spade was called a bucket. It's like pestle and mortar except that I still don't know which one is which.

Bloody 'ell. I've just noticed that adding a bucket gives a ten fold increase in the file size. Stupid microso£t picture editor. Leave the file be and I'll sort it out when i get home and can use paint shop pro. Theresa knott 08:45 10 Jun 2003 (UTC)


You must have some special bot that looks for my postings... overrepresented is a valid statistical term indicating a greater prevalence of a trait in a subpopulation than is present in the general population. That is certainly the case with vegetarians and CSAs. There is no negative connotation and I'm not sure why you took it out. In any case, I left your wordsmithing in place but encourage you to change it back. I do appreciate the wikification, though. Kat 17:54 10 Jun 2003 (UTC)


Re: Query on Sandman Stubs... "are they necessary"... possibly. :o) I don't know how 'needed' they are to be fair, but then the same can said of a lot of 'pointless' things around..! So.. the that end, I noticed that the 'Characters from Sandman' had several unmade links, and 'The Sandman' linked to the Lucifer comic, rather than a Lucifer character page, hence that stub page, and then I thought I'd put a bit down on Lucifer the character, but to flesh it out, I'd need the comics around, and that'll take me a while to borrow, so I didn't put much information there! So... :oS ntnon 20:52 10 June 2003


Hi Jim. it's me again in trouble with a picture. Me means Andrew van der Esch user:Vanderesch. Could you tweak at it a little. It would be good is it had a legend saying: Sheep lice (Damalinia ovis) Sucking lice. This picture is taken by me and my colleague as we are working on alternatives for treating lice, mainly in animals. The alternative is of course some extract from the Neem tree. It works very well. Thanks, Andrew. By the way I haven't figured out how to produce tildes with my keyboard. In Word it's OK but when I'm editing within Wikipedia I have no clue which combination of my keyboard can produce the tilde. Andrew

  • It's still me, Andrew. Is it possible for me to create a sort of personel Sandbox in which to play? You could put in some Taxoboxes which I then can use. I would like to add toxoboces to Head lice, Lice etc... Let me know,

Andrew

    • Thanks for present. Although I now see still a bigger picture. Someone else has been fideling too!! Andrew

Jim, Thank you for your update to the CSA page. I think your choice of wording is fine. Kat


*ouch* - I should read before hitting Save page :-O -- JeLuF


It's a subspecies, Jim: HANZAB says there are 6. The New Zealand Owl (or Morepork or any of dozen other names) is Ninox novaeseelandiae novaeseelandiae, the one we have here is N. novaeseelandiae lurida, there is ocellata and leucopsis up north, albaria in Tasmania, various others on the tropical islands. That volume of HANZAB is quite recent (1999) and the 2003 master list retains that classification, so I think in this instance we can be fairly confident.

I've been away from the 'pedia these last few days. I might start doing some Wiki articles again over the next few days. There was a very bad taste in my mouth which has not entirely dissipated yet. I got so fed up with the bullshit that is going down on the list that I just didn't feel like doing any Wiki work, and this is my first edit since ... er ... Saturday, I think.

Instead, I've been (among many things which I won't bore you with) over on BirdForum (where Steve Nova comes from) asking lots of questions about digiscoping. Great bunch of people! Really helpful and I've learned a lot. Yesterday I bought a tripod and a head (both Manfrotto) and over the next few weeks I'll get something to put on top of them. It will be a Nikon Coolpix 4500 (pretty much the only game in town so far as digiscoping goes, I gather) and I'm not 100% sure about the scope yet. Most likely a Swarovski ATS80HD (largely on the great recommendations they get) but possibly a Leica the same as yours, or a Zeiss 85FL. I'm not sure yet. (And in reality, I'm sure that any of those three would do me fine.) First, though, I have to figure out (a) which adaptor to get, and (b) if I can get it here in Australia or if I'll need to mail order from the UK or Hong Kong. Once I've got the adaptor organised, and an external battery pack while I'm at it, then I'll hammer the poor credit card to within an inch of its life and get the scope and, as an afterthought, the camera. -- T


Heh, just this weekend, while driving back from Aztalan, Wisconsin (no Wikipedia article on the interestng aspects of the site, I'll probably have to write it up pretty soon myself, but to get the general idea, see Cahokia, Illinois... damn, that's got nothing about the interesting parts, either; well, at least Cahokia is listed on archaeological site and World Heritage Sites)... anyway, where was I? Oh yeah, driving back, I saw a Sandhill Crane (damn, no article on that yet, either) fly across the road in front of us, and while I was pretty sure that's what it was, it had me trying to remember between cranes and herons, which kept the neck straight and which bent the neck while flying. And lo and behold, there's your edit last night.... :) -- John Owens 05:06 13 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Yes, I'm hoping to do something for at least the Whooping Crane and Sandhill Crane, being an American (sorry! ;) who's seen them both up close and personal. On the other hand, I'm not terribly confident of my scientific writing style. But I have these pictures I took during a visit to the International Crane Foundation (Do we have a page for this yet? Let's see....) near Baraboo, Wisconsin, about twenty years ago or so, back when there were only around 50 Whooping Cranes left in the world. They were done with a 110 pocket camera, so the quality is rather lacking, but I was close enough that they might be OK anyway, and there's certainly no copyright issues to worry about. On the gripping hand, it's been so long that I don't remember what all the different cranes are, though I think I remember some of them being Japanese. When I finally get in that scanner time I've been waiting for, if nothing else, I can upload them without names, and maybe someone (like you? ;) could identify them from those, or I could find some other crane resource which would tell me. -- John Owens 06:34 13 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Got the Eurasian Crane name from the International Crane Foundation website; they even give that as the primary name, and "Common Crane" (well, actually, they don't capitalise, but let's not get into that right now) as an alternate name. I would assume they're trying to avoid Euro-centrism. ;) -- John Owens 09:31 13 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Thank you for expanding my rather pathetic list of dolphins! I don't know much about dolphins myself, but I thought I'd put something about the Chinese River Dolphin (a.k.a. Baiji) so that I had something to link to in my Baiji disambiguation page. I did a search for another dolphin page to nick a taxobox from, but instead found the very stubbish Boto, so I had to add a bit to that, too... The thing is, both dolphins seem to have lots of different names, so I have to make lots of redirects, but I thought it would be best to find out what the most common names for them are first, because if it turns out that I've got either of them at a less common name, someone is bound to move the page at some point, and the redirects will be all messed up. So what do you think? -- Oliver P. 23:51 14 Jun 2003 (UTC)

This is exactly why capitalizing the common name is wrong in this situtation; the capitalization seems to indicate some type of officialness of the title when in fact it is just one of many common competing common names. See what I mean Jim? --mav