Jump to content

Wikipedia:Image sleuthing

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Nrbelex (talk | contribs) at 04:55, 3 March 2005 ([[:Image:2 TEU containers.jpg]]: not promotional or descriptional photo). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

The following Wikipedians have signed up to be image sleuths.

What is image sleuthing?

There are many thousands of images on Wikipedia. Most are tagged so that we know where they come from and how they are licensed, but some are mysteries, tagged {{unverified}} or {{unknown}} or not tagged at all, with no obvious way to tell whether we can legally use them or not. Eventually, if we can't find out the source and copyright status of an image, we'll have to delete it. But some of these images are useful or attractive, and are begging to be rescued. That's where the image sleuths come in. The sleuths use any methods they have – from Google Image Search to uploader e-mails to secret informants met at midnight – to discover the source and copyright status of an image.

So how does this work?

Below, you will see up to fifteen images with comments to the left of each. Sleuths set to work tracking down the origin, copyright and licence terms associated with each image. If there's general agreement that an image is acceptable – available under free licences, in the public domain, or legitimately a fair use – then you can move all discussion to the image's description page and remove the image from the list below. If the image can't be certified acceptable even after a week of searching, then image should be moved into the deletion process. (Sleuths often try to find suitable free or public domain replacements.)

If an image has been listed for over a week, or if the status of the image has been determined beyond reasonable doubt, then anyone can remove the image from the list and either tag it or list it on ifd. If there are fewer than fifteen images below, anyone can add a new one. Some good place to look are Wikipedia:Untagged images and Category:Images with unknown source.

If you do move an image to the deletion process, please always contact the uploader of each image, on their talk page: do not make the assumption that they are not contactable. More generally, contacting users does sometimes elicit the information and so is considered a good thing™ packed with Wikiquette.

The assignments

Listed Feb 25
  • Used in Chinese tea culture
  • Looks self-made to me. Alternatively, I can create a free replacement. --MarkSweep 03:42, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • See also Image:Pot-tea.jpg and other images uploaded by this group (what exactly is going on here?) of users. --MarkSweep 03:46, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
    • (They're a group of university students in Hong Kong who were instructed by their professor to add Hong-Kong-related articles to Wikipedia.) – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 13:04, Feb 25, 2005 (UTC)
  • These students either took the photos themselves (most likely), in which case they are GFDL, or they took them from the Internet (possible), in which case they are copyvios. I say we look hard for these on Google, and if we can't find them, we mark them as GFDL. – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 15:19, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)
File:1964Fair.jpg
Listed Feb 26
  • Used in 1964 New York World's Fair
  • Last chance to save this image
  • I've tried hard to find this image on Google, LOC, NARA, without success. I haven't been able to find a free replacement either. :-( MarkSweep 03:57, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
File:2004-03-20.PNG
Listed on Feb 26
  • Used in Unrest in Kosovo
  • There has been a POV dispute about this article ever since it was created and the map certainly doesn't help. When asked about its source, the uploader simply chose not to answer. I have beeb searching for its source without luck. Thuresson 21:11, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Smells like a copyvio then. I say delete. – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 15:21, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)
File:25-Alpine winter exploration.jpg
Listed on Feb 26
Listed on Feb 26
  • Used in Stained glass window patchwork
  • Probably created by the uploader and therefore GFDL. --MarkSweep 09:19, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Probably. Let's do a thorough search on Google, (herefoward referred to as "the Gauntlet"), and if it passes the gauntlet, we'll give it the benefit of the doubt. – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 15:48, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)


File:00 Lena s cuteface.jpg
Listed on Feb 28
File:08 GentbruggeWatertoren.JPG
Listed on Feb 28
  • Used in Gentbrugge
  • This just has to be a copyvio. --Tagishsimon (talk)
  • Looks like a photoshopping exercise, most likely with this as the original image ((c) Webmaster: 2Compute bvba). Either way, it's a ridiculous image, as we can see that Gentbrugge has only one water tower. — Asbestos | Talk 13:56, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
    • Actually, the images don't overlap in photoshop and they would have had to find a higher resolution image to begin with, so that wasn't the image. Still searching. — Asbestos | Talk 14:04, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Either way, I think the image should be deleted as misleading and unnecessary. Replaced if possible, but definitely deleted. – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 17:18, Mar 2, 2005 (UTC)
File:09deng.jpg
Listed on Feb 28


File:2 TEU containers.jpg
Listed on Feb 28
  • Used in Containerization
  • I couldn't find it on Google, and I searched pretty hard. I've e-mailed the uploader to ask him/her. – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 18:36, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)
  • Same, and I mean a lot of search terms. Nrbelex 02:32, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
    • Probably self-made then, and GFDL. – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 12:44, Mar 2, 2005 (UTC)
      • Doesn't look self-made to me, more like some sort of promotional or descriptional photo. I'd be wary of GFDLing it, much as I like it & want us to keep it. --Tagishsimon (talk)
        Could easily be self-made, especially if he lives near a harbor. I've sent the uploader an e-mail (through Wikipedia, and didn't get an error, so I presume he has specified an e-mail address and will get the e-mail). Lupo 14:12, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
      • I don't think it's a promotional or descriptional photo 'cause I perused the websites for the companies on the crates and searched images and articles using their names and nothing came up... Nrbelex 04:55, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
File:1106169816.jpg
Listed on Feb 28


File:Heathrow.jpg
Listed on Mar 1
  • Used in London
  • I think that's an MD-11 if that helps at all... Nrbelex 02:53, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Listed on Mar 2
Listed on Mar 3
File:Ac.lustiger2.jpg
Listed on Mar 3
  • Used in Jean-Marie Lustiger. Part of the enormous Adam Carr unverified collection. We'll need all the help we can get, hence the decision to start with this gentleman.
    • Probably from here - no longer exists. [2]
  • It seems to be found also here, which also lists "Inside the Vatican" as the ultimate source, no pun intended. I'd say that's a good fair use image with a known source. – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 00:41, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)