Talk:Slipknot (band)

thesmokinggun.com

Dear, um, people,

Is the mention of thesmokinggun.com in the article necessary? I often come across pages that seem to abhor and dislike things I happen to like. I've seen everything from Marilyn Manson, Slipknot and the color black to my love of cats and fatty meats trampled, spat at and branded as idiotic.

I'll be the first to admit that Slipknot is not the most intelligent music on the planet. Then again, neither is arrogance. And that's the first thought that struck me when I saw your page. Here's yet another person (or set of persons?) who seem to think their opinion counts more than other people's.

In essense, I don't care whether you like Slipknot or not. What amazes me is that you seem to care why I do. Honestly, what purpose can your website possibly have, other than to inflame or enrage the people that do like this band? I'll agree, the typical Slipknot fan may have trouble tying his own shoes, but let's give these kids a break.

It's an outlet, simple as that. It's an outlet for the anger and frustration that are inherent to the process of growing up. This goes not only for the teenage years, which are obviously a much easier target to pick on, but is a lifelong experience. They carry a positive message, which says to believe in yourself, don't care what others think about you, and live your life the way YOU want to.

Naturally, as is the case with many of the artist that carry similar messages (Manson immediately springs to mind), kids misinterpret these messages by dressing up and doing things EXACTLY LIKE their icons, but let's not dwell on that. Eventually, the message will seep in and the world will be a better place; a world where conformity is not the first rule and the status quo is abolished.

What worries me is that people like you seem so bent on making fun of people that are really doing just that - living their lives and growing up. It's sad that people like you seem to think this is a bad thing, and it seems painfully obvious to me that you, as an individual, is really just coping with the same problems, albeit in a bitter and resentful way.

I realize much of this is falling on deaf ears, so I'll leave you with a closing argument for further thought: You say on your webpage that spamming guestbooks is lame and pathetic. Is starting a website that voices how much you hate something without giving any concrete examples or any sensible alternatives for the sole sake of sparking controversy and illiciting hateful messages any better?

I hope that you grow up soon, too.

Sincerely, Linker 06:07, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Ok for starters, i was just wondering why you would type up a whole conversation of your useless thoughts on the web about a band that you obviously don't know, or probably havn't given the chance of listenin to their albums.

....Pretty stupid runs in mind.

Now you have to listen to my input. (I gotta tell ya, it's alot better than yours)

You said that it was probably goin to "deaf ears" or some **** like that, and your right, so dont do it! Im sure Slipknot wont lose any sleep about your mindless chatter.

And honey, whats the point of rambling on about bad points that you think, to people who might come across this page like me, who are die hard fans. "Oh no, this person's right, i better stop liking this band" Do you expect that? You know....**** that **** off. Us "maggots" dont need it, and we can bloody well listen to what we want! If you don't want to hear it, then dont!.

So keep it to yourselves and in future research your debate more, because everything you said was based on unknown territory.

If only you knew about them. --User:203.12.163.10

Note: User signature and intendation added, swearing covered out from above by me. I think it's fair to remove the Paul Gray -link, it's not really on-topic. There are no other smokinggun-links on the page now. --kooo 21:03, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)

Note: The anon user has trouble with reading comprehension. Obviously, if they actually read it they would know I am a Slipknot fan defending their music against hateful critics. Linker 19:16, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Sliknot Is NOT metal.

http://www.black-goat.com/faq.php

I quote:

"» 1.1. What You Need To Know

1.1.1. What genre does Slipknot belong to? Hard to explain, but let's put it this way: they're a band that fuses elements taken from hardcore (ie. aggressive vocals, heavy chunks of distortion), goregrind (ie. blast beats, gore imagery), and modern rock. They're not metal, and they're certainly not plain hard rock either..."

That website is not a reliable source. Slipknot is definitely metal. In all my life, when a band wears masks made out of real human flesh it is definitely a metal band.