Talk:List of rivers of England and Wales
Defining coastlines
Can we get other coast lines defined by reference to headland points, as is now the case for the Pentland Firth coastline? Laurel Bush 12:06, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC).
How about the following proposal:
In England, flowing into the English Channel
From Lizard Point to Foreness Point
In England, flowing into the North Sea - Thames and Medway From Foreness point to Shoebury Ness
In England, flowing into the North Sea - North of the Thames Estuary From Shoebury Ness to St Abbs Head
In Scotland, flowing into the North Sea From St Abbs Head to Duncansby Head
In Scotland, flowing into the Pentland Firth From (Duncansby Head to Holborn Head)
In Scotland, flowing into the Atlantic Ocean Holborn Head to Mull of Kintyre
In Scotland, flowing into the Firth of Clyde From Mull of Kintyre to Mull of Galloway
In Scotland, flowing into the Irish Sea Mull of Galloway to Gretna
In England, flowing into the Irish Sea Gretna to Hoylake
In Wales, flowing into the Irish Sea Hoylake to St. Govan's Head
In Wales, flowing into the Bristol Channel St. Govan's Head to M48 Bridge
In England, flowing into the Bristol Channel M48 Bridge to Lizard Point
In addition the following island groups (to be inserted in correct geographical positions)
The Orkney and Shetland Islands
The Outer Hebrides
The Inner Hebrides and Skye
Arran and the Cumbrae Islands
The Isle of Anglesey
The Scilly Isles
Excluded by definition are:
The Channel Isles
The Isle of Man
Velela 23:14, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Northern Ireland
Northern Irish rivers were already listed in a more complete and detailed list on the Rivers of Ireland article, which deals with the whole of the island of Ireland. I know Northern Ireland is in the UK, but I feel it makes more geographical sense to keep the list on the Ireland page, otherwise we'd have two seperate pages for each river that crossed the border from Northern Ireland into the Republic of Ireland. Obviously a river cannot flow from Northern Ireland into another UK country so in this case perhaps UK should be seen in geographical rather than political terms? Grunners 14:49, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Welsh Rivers
The names generally given here are english equivalents of valid Welsh (i.e. local) names with the Welsh name given in parenthesis. As an Englishman who has been working with rivers in Wales for more than 30 years this both sounds and feels wrong. An appropriate standarad would seem to be the Ordnance Survey representation of River Names as given on the 1: 25000 series maps. It is of course sill possible to wikilink to the English name (where one exists) given in parenthesis. The new names I have added (i.e. a number of Anglesey Rivers) are now represented with their accepted name first and english equivalent second
Velela 21:53, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Organize and counter-clockwise
Please see Wikipedia:How_to_copyedit; Note that the English form of Wikipedia has no preference for American, British or other forms of English so long as this is consistent for the whole page. There is no inconsistency within the article and the previous usage would be the standard usage in the subject area of this article; there is therefore no reason to correct the spelling to North American norms. -- Chris j wood 22:14, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
River Colne, Hertfordshire
I have restricted the red link 'tributaries' of this river to those already mentioned in the River Colne, Hertfordshire article. And I may not have got them in the right order.
The article fudges the fact that the Colne Brook and the River Colne are distributaries and enter the Thames at different points.
Other names seen on maps are (in no particular order):
- Shire Ditch - in the Master Atlas of Greater London (Geographers') just North of Uxbridge
- Alder Bourne
- Poyle Channel
- Bigley Ditch
- County Ditch - near the London Stone and shown on the wonderful 6 inch OS maps site at the edge of Church Lammas, Staines.
And of course there is the Grand Onion Canal in there as well to confuse matters. And with parallel channels having their own names altogether a difficult river to describe in the otherwise excellent and elegant format of this Rivers of Great Britain article. Even the article title River Colne, Hertfordshire is difficult - the river forms the County Boundary for a lot of its length.
RHaworth 07:49, 2005 Jan 20 (UTC)
I've just written articles on the River Brathay and the River Rothay. These rivers don't flow into the sea, but instead into Windermere (lake). Any suggestions as to how these might be categorised? There are other such rivers in the Lake District. Arcturus 23:10, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Since Windermere drains out to the sea as the River Leven (Cumbria), it is reasonable to assert that Windermere is simply a lacustrine enlargement of the Leven and I would therefore expect that the River Brathay and the River Rothay would be represented as tributaries of the Leven. I suspect that the same treatment would be appropriate for other lakes and lochs. Velela 00:47, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
And what if the lake's outlet to sea is not clearly titled as a river? Also: how should we regard watercourses (rivers?) which appear via Inglis to have acquired the title Water? Laurel Bush 17:00, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC).
River Fyne
I suspect this river actually flows into the Atlantic north of the Mull Of Kintyre.
- It flows into Loch Fyne and then immediately east of Kintyre. Warofdreams 12:10, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Thanks. And Loch Awe drains north and west via River Awe? Laurel Bush 15:49, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC).
- Yes, into Loch Etive. You can use Multimap to check any of these rivers. Warofdreams 16:32, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)