User talk:Kappa/3

Falklands war

Why do you think sovereignty issues were settled? Do wars settle sovereignty issues? Galtieri though that, by the way. He was dead wrong. Ejrrjs 21:20, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I disagree. let me explain you first why I worded it exactly that way. My first encounter with Wikipedia was on exactly this article. I found it quite biased towards the UK position (to comply with the wishes of its inhabitants is the formulaic expression of their soverignty claim.) From the Argentine POV that point is not relevant; if someone enters illegally into your house, it is not the wishes of the trespasser that should prevail.

I tried to talk about it in the so-called "talk page" but instead of a reasonable discussion, I only found much agitation around the kelpers wishes (which I couldn't care less, as that was irrelevant to the outcome of the war to start with). Over there you'll find 3 facts that weren't affected by the war, but were equally non-relevant. Instead of starting an edit war, I thought for a long time on how to balance that very first paragraph. When I finally found a sensible way to do it...you change it asap.

Ok, let's go back to the exact wording. There is a sovereignty conflict recognized by the UN Committee on decolonization (see here for a random sample). It is NOT just a zany statement from Argentina. So, please, let's revert the phrase, or let's seek a common ground if you disagree for some reason on my edit.

Ejrrjs 21:41, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! Ejrrjs 22:33, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Reply

Well, yes, that is how the Koreans ike to call it in English. In Chinese, it is called <<悄悄愛上你>>. This means Love affair in Chinese. I got all this from my local Singaporean magazine, and I managed to write Kim Jae Won because I saw him starring in the drama. This drama, though not that popular and not written in the empas filmography, do exist. I would also strongly encourage to edit and create any articles about Korean celebrities. You are welcome to do so. Thanks, User:Chan Han Xiang

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
Multi-Licensing Guide
Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR

Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

HYP

May I ask you to please read the evidence that I have posted on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/HYP, follow and read some of the links that Google brings up, and consider whether afterwords you still want to merge the article? Thank you. —Lowellian (talk)[[]] 09:00, Dec 12, 2004 (UTC)

Kanji

Hi

Thanks for adding the kanji to the Taijin kyofusho article; if you have time could you do the same for Japanese Wolf? Thanks, Ziggurat 20:49, Dec 13, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks! Ziggurat 20:11, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)

West End Theatre

You voted for West End Theatre, this week's UK Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 23:26, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Speedyage

for keeping an eye on speedy deletions. &#0xfeff; --fvw * 01:28, 2004 Dec 22 (UTC)

Rough Japanese (? I'm assuming) to English translations

From the note (that I can't actually read, of course) that you left at Talk:Japaharinet, I'm hoping you could see if this anon, who seems to be mostly comfortable with English and Wikipedia standards, would be willing to help polish the contributions of this anon who's kinda shaky on both. Niteowlneils 04:57, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I'm not too comfortable doing that, but I'll try to polish them a bit myself and hopefully he will pick things up. Kappa 05:38, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

VfD mishap

Hello, could you please move your signed vote from Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/IntellNet Software to Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Protex blue, where it belongs. The person who nominated Protex blue messed the entry so that some of the votes went to the subpage preceding it in the main listing. Thanks, jni 12:06, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Lena Park

For Korean Americans:How about the Dean Harold Hongju Koh? Mr Tan, 11.44, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I guess that's the most common way his name is used in English, try googling it. "Lena Junghyun Park" doesn't get any google hits at all. Kappa 21:43, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Smyslovye Gallucinacii VfD

The article has been expanded by User:Mikkalai. You may want to change your vote on the related VfD discussion. Grue 12:55, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The DDR phenomenon

I am planning to write an article on this topic, see DDR talk. SYSS Mouse 03:53, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The Evil Rabid Jigglypuff Of Doom

I'm having trouble with my listing of the Jigglypuff page for VfD. I think the problem is I initially created the section heading with 2 "=" characters instead of 3. It is visible through the "this page's entry" link, but does not seem to show up in today's Table of Contents on VfD. Any ideas how to fix this? Johntex 17:47, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

VfD page

Hi there! We seem to be disagreeing on a lot of VfD issues. But I've noticed that you tend to vote exclusively for keeping just about anything (possibly on the basis of "does the value this brings to our readers ultimately outweigh the cost of disk space to our servers?". I like that argument, I can vote "keep" on almost everything verifiable with that., although I hope that was a joke).

I would like to suggest that Wikipedia is aiming towards quality of information, rather than quantity, and that there are good reasons for deleting a lot of articles. Even speedily deleting them, in some cases. I don't mean to be rude but "It's a finite list" and "It's relevant to corset wearers" aren't particularly valid arguments for keeping an article.

Yours, Radiant! 15:15, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC) Hi :) OK in order, the top one was actually a joke, but the nominator was kind enough to supply that reason, so I used it. I believe that Wikipedia should aim to increase its total quantity of quality information, rather that its average level per article, and that's generally how I vote. I agree with a lot of deletions, I watch the deletion log and I disagree with about 0.1% of them. "Finite list" isn't a reason for keeping, but "potentially infinite list" has been used as a reason for deletion, so I thought it was worth mentioning. "It's relevant to corset wearers" seems entirely valid to me, for those who want to know how safe it is, the biography of the record holder is a valuable piece of evidence.

Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Wan Azizah Ismail

Please see my comments on this article. --Viriditas | Talk 03:25, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Re:Redirect DDR Freak?

If you check the page's history, I did redirect it a day or two ago, but it was reverted because it survived VfD the first time. I think it needs to go through the VfD process or it'll keep being reverted. --Poiuytman 10:51, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Norwegian Wiktionary

Thanks for pointing me to the Norwegian Wiktionary Page. Somehow (stupid me...) I just missed it completely:) Tobyox 20:40, Feb 19, 2005 (UTC)

Jeffdedejeff

Please check your vote in Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Jeffdedejeff. It looks like the vandal managed to trick you. Check the history of the voting subpage. jni 08:30, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

129.177.61.124 reporting

Hello, Kappa. After some votes on the vfd you have urged me to get a username to get my vote fully counted. Is that some vfd-policy? Anyway, I have one now. Sjakkalle 13:09, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Re: votes for deletion queries

Hey Kappa, thanks for your concern, but don't be worried, I'm not overly emotional about that particular nomination, but objectively unhappy with people using the term "notable" like it has some objective meaning and thus can be a criterion for deletion. If I had the effort, I would similarly query all silly vote rationales which provide no further explaination than "not notable" or something equivocal. Take care, nsh 11:59, Mar 6, 2005 (UTC) (Xposted from User_talk:Nsh)

VFD

You "don't believe [my] action was done out of concern for my freedom from spam"? Why, then, do you think I did it? It certainly wasn't because I care about the outcome of the votes. User:Rdsmith4/Sig 16:48, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Weebl and Bob transcripts

Well, it's not like it's solely my idea, as there were other pages already existing with Weebl and Bob transcripts, so I only felt that it was right to make the list complete. Let me contact Mr. Picking (Weebl) and ask him what he believes is good. MessedRocker 18:17, Mar 12, 2005 (UTC)

Tommy Makem

Very good start on the article. I'd even go so far as to call it a short article rather than a stub. Of course it could use some expansion, so maybe I'll do a little research and see if I can come up with a little more about him, particularly his early days. One thing though, you mention some of his most famous songs, and I was wondering if those were all songs he wrote, or just songs he was famous for singing. I know he wrote "Four Green Fields", and it has to be his most famous. I wasn't sure about the others, but if they are meant to be songs he wrote then does "Farewell to Carlingford" belong? I sort of thought that was older, but I'm really not sure. Anyway, good job. -R. fiend 22:17, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Angel One VFD

Why are you putting Angel One up for deletion? There are plenty of Star Trek synopsis pages just like it. Yes, it'a a boring episode, but Angel One has survived a pervious attempt at deletion, why continue to press the issue. I seen there are plenty of votes to keep it and other users have mentioned the previous VFD and agree it should stay. I've taken the liberty of removing the VFD regardless cause it's a moot point in my opinion. I'm not here to start a flame war over it, since deleting Star Trek pages is obviosuly a losing battle around here. Cyberia23 22:30, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I put Angel One up for Vfd because things are changing around here, and most other fancruft is getting merged and/or deleted. I know we are supposed to value inconsistency, but I think it would be misleading to new contributors to have a big stack of Trek episodes but not allow similar articles for other TV series or mangas or whatever. I have replaced the tag. Kappa 01:52, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is a plethoria of knowledge, both useless and useful. Since there happens to be a bunch of detailed Trek stuff, that means there are more people who happen to be contributing toward it at the moment than other things. I have seen a lot of info on other shows like anime and sci-fi. I'm sure, eventually those will be covered more and more. It takes some time. Just because BOOM it ain't all detailed yet doesn't mean what is started should be trashed. I spent a lot of time on the stuff I written, and I've gotten mostly positive support for it. Thats why I continue to do it, and I'll be more than pissed cause some lamers don't want it around. In my opinion, like everything else in the world, if you don't like something, why is it so damn hard to IGNORE it? Don't like it, then don't look at it. Theres tons of other stuff to read. Cyberia23 07:26, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  - I'm sorry that this nomination has caused you stress, but I don't think you understand the situation. The majority view in Vfd is that detail like this should be merged or preferably deleted. The reason that Trek stuff survives is mainly because there are a lot of Trekkie wikipedians, who will all show up and vote "keep". Vfd voters know this, so they don't bother to vote "delete" even when that's what they want. Other fields can never become equally detailed, because there just aren't enough people working on them for detail to survive Vfd. I don't have a problem with Trek stuff being in wikipedia, but the trouble is Trek detail confuses people into thinking they can make detail for whatever other field they are interested in, and they end up wasting their time. That's why I don't want to ignore it. Kappa 11:13, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

- - - Well I don't agree that the deleters will win simply becuase they don't cast a vote. I wonder why Wikipeda even allows votes when they state on the main VFD page; "Wikipedia place is not a democracy". Whats the point in "voting" if that is the case? All I can say is I assure you I won't be "stressed" if my work gets deleted. Yes I'll be annoyed, but I'll live. My thinking about the whole issue is, since there are already established episodes entries, then what harm is there to "fill in details"? Most of those pages are stubs anyway, I was filling the void. I can see the cleaning up other sideline entries, like for certain starships or planets that aren't necessary to have their own entries. I try to cover their information in the episode synopis to where they were featured. I think all those should be taken down. Anyway, this something I enjoy doing in my spare time. Seeing it as "wasted time" is just a matter of opinion. If they are taken down, then thats what happens. I'll probably just leave Wikipedia in protest like so many other sites that were once enjoyable for me, but eventually become screwed over by bureaucratic B.S. I understand what your saying about consolidating and trying to keep things uniform around here. It's a never ending battle. I've been trying to keep the Trek stuff under control where I can, but I can't devote every second of my life maintaining it. I was hoping by getting it organized it would set an example for others who'd like to detail other TV shows, or comics, games, or whatever, in a similar fashon. One thing that is cool about Wikipedia is you can find something on just about anything. It's really amazing. I think my reovation of the Trek episodes would put an end to confusion. Anyway, we'll see what happens. Good luck in your crusade, no hard feelings, but I hope this place can come to a compromise. I am more than willing to help out in any clean up effort, but I wouldn't destroy everything without discussion or coming up with a compromise first. Cyberia23 22:47, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)