Talk:William Luther Pierce/Archive 1
Edited article for greater accuracy. FYI: Hillsboro, is only a PO Box mailing address. Mill Point, is the actual place location. Added link to News Articles written by Pierce to References Section and to external links: http://www.nationalvanguard.org/bsearch.php?author=Dr.%20William%20L.%20Pierce News Articles written by Pierce Added facts about the SPLC "tax exempt" mis-characterization of Pierce's Cosmotheism:
Other criticisms have been harsher; for example, the Southern Poverty Law Center has often deliberately mis-characterized Pierce's religion of Cosmotheism as being "an unsuccessful tax dodge". In fact, Pierce won from the IRS in court at least 60 acres of tax exempt status land for his Cosmotheist Community Church, out of the total 346 acres that he had owned in Mill Point, WV, nears Hillsboro, WV, and of which the other portions of land were for both the National Alliance Political Organization HQ and for some other buildings, etc., and for his National Vanguard Books warehouse and office and their other buildings.
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Although The Turner Diaries was only available by mail order and at extremist gatherings ... Um, you can buy it at amazon.com --Zoe
- Hence the "was." My copy comes from Barnes and Nobles. Danny
- Ah, thanks, I didn't understand your qualification there. --Zoe
- No probs. I am actually thinking of doing an article on the book itself, which had a profound influence on the militia movement. After I finish my president tables tho. Danny
- Yes, we do need an article on the book. I thought about starting one, but as I've never read it, I'm probably not the best person to write it. :-) Good luck at staying NPOV. -- Zoe
No matter where you bought your copy of The Turner Diaries, it was published via National Vanguard Books. Some printings are "Barricade Books" but that is a more recent run that National Vanguard outsourced. (Post Oklahoma-City era printings bear the Barricade Books logo.) Up until recently, both A9.com and BN.com listed it as "Special order from publisher, ships in 2-4 weeks." but now I see they stock it. My original copy was purchased through BN.com and it took 5 weeks to arrive. That was 2000. I've since passed on that copy and acquired a hardcover edition signed by Dr. Pierce himself. --Sponge
The use of the term "extremist" was very biased. The part quoted above, "Although The Turner Diaries was only available by mail order and at extremist gatherings..." is almost biased to the point of being inflammatory. One of those "extremist gatherings" where The Turner Diaries can somtimes still be found includes gun and knife shows. This even goes back to McVeigh himself, where the interest in the book is not always based on the racial aspect, but on the fictional (?) efforts of the government to ban firearms, etc. If I remember correctly, McVeigh said that one of the things that 'set him off' was the government seige of a Church in Waco, TX (which was supposedly started over firearms violations). RL Barrett 22:53 May 9, 2003 (UTC)
I noticed a few minor errors in this article. The name of the main character in The Turner Diaries was Earl Turner. Also, the bombing of FBI headquarters doesn't occur in the novel until the second or third chapter - the novel opens with the main character reminiscing about the "gun raids", when federal agents went door to door collecting firearms. The name of Pierce's radio program was American Dissident Voices, not Dissident Voices.
- Then please edit the article to fix the errors! :) Try it, it is fun. --mav
66.2.156.24/5's edit's appear very POV to me. Revert back to Snoyes edit. Just giving this brief explanation here. Flockmeal 03:19, Jan 11, 2004 (UTC)
- On the contrary, "Flockmeal" and "RickK" the edits are "factual" and "unbiased" as opposed to "Snoyes' own edit" which really was just typically JDL/ADL and leftist or Marxist "Political Correctness" POV propaganda.
- I have just reverted it back for factual "accuracy" and "objectivity" to the version as of 22:57, 11 Jan 2004.
- I agree, "fictional" and "novel" are redundant, but, "futuristic" is both more descriptive and accurate. Thanks! :D
- It ain't "futuristic". It's set in the future, but there's nothing "futuristic" about it. These words actually have meanings in conventionally-used English, you don't just pepper sentences with them to taste. - David Gerard 15:27, Feb 23, 2004 (UTC)
I merged the content of the Cosmotheism article in here as a new section. --BM 18:40, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Broken links and external links
Due to the sensitive nature of Dr. William Pierces political view there has been censorship on this topic of valid external links.
- The current link to racialpride.com for a copy of the turner diaries does not work, and thus I suggest instead to include a working link:
[http //www solargeneral.com/library/TurnerDiaries.pdf Text of The Turner Diaries]
Other external links which are valid and were censored include links to the online NV newsportal http //www nationalvanguard.org
As well to the largest collection in the world of texts, essays, audio files and video produced by Dr. William Pierce on http //www solargeneral.com
I don't believe these links to be personal promotion, as Dr. Pierce is dead.
- If anyone's interested in learning more about the person who posted this, they might like to look here — the comment beginning: “It is clear that...”. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 21:25, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Censored Links
Why was this link removed from the Pierce article?
- [http //www solargeneral.com/library/Hunter.pdf Text of The Hunter] (PDF file)