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Marilyn Manson's music was cited as a motivation in the Columbine High School massacre (ref. [1]).

By whom? GWO


References

http://www.marilynmanson.com
[1] http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/bio.asp?oid=54

The citation of Marilyn Manson's music as a motivation in the Columbine High School massacre was made by one or many non-psychologists with a tendency to blame effects (listening to Marilyn Manson as a result of feeling alienated) as causes, and also an incomplete appreciation for freedom of expression.


Among the non-psychologists who publicly mentioned Marilyn Manson in connetction with the Columbine High School massacre was Senator Joe Lieberman.


Marilyn Manson's music most likely had nothing to do with the Columbine massacre, since Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold didn't listen to him. Attempts to blame him for it is most likely hysteria.


Manson has nothing to fear for the blame of the coulumbine massacre. it is just little church goes too afraid to believe that anything that their children might do is the fault of their upbringing or treatment in other places.

I dunno why this was protected, so i unprotected it. Tuf-Kat

Someone has just changed the Dita Von Teese article to say that she is Manson's girlfriend, not his wife. Are they married or not? RickK 04:11, 3 Oct 2003 (UTC)

No, they're not married. Bubblewrap 14:55, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)

band vs. person

move all the personal stuff to his personal page and all the band stuff to this page and keep this page strictly about band history and other members, etc.? - Omegatron 01:38, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. violet/riga (t) 10:31, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Yup, sounds like a plan. PMC 22:51, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Suggest slightly seperating the demo releases/early material from the full length LP's, starting with Portrait. --Insomniak 05:24, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

silly question

does anyone know when and where he did the cover of Like a Virgin? thanks. --little Alex 07:35, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)

Connection to gothic sub-culture

  • re: "the fact that Manson's music had little to no relation to gothic music or sub-culture."

In my experience Manson has been very popular in and has strongly influenced the goth sub-culture in the U.S. Can somebody support the above claim from the article?

Connection to gothic sub-culture

  • re: "the fact that Manson's music had little to no relation to gothic music or sub-culture."

In my experience Manson has been very popular in and has strongly influenced the goth sub-culture in the U.S., perhaps even at one point being the most prominent goth music along with NIN. Can somebody support the above claim from the article?--Nectarflowed (talk) 12:26, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Marilyn Manson is not "gothic" and neither is nine inch nails. Nine inch nails is industrial/alternative-pop, Manson is metal/shock-rock/glam. Goth rock and deathrock are offshoots of punk and post-punk that began in the late '70s and early '80s. Gothic sub-culture is related to goth rock. See All Music entry for Goth rock for more relating to that. Also, article on Manson (link). Manson is commonly mistaken for "gothic" by the media. While, there are certainly goths that listen to Marilyn Manson and Manson gets played at some "goth" clubs occasionally, that does not make Manson gothic or give him any connection to the sub-culture. A lot of goths listen to Duran Duran, too, after all, but I doubt anyone would call them gothic.