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Ceauşescu

I'm hoping you might help in sorting out the remaining dispute at Nicolae Ceauşescu. I've sorted out what I think should be relatively uncontroversial, and I've made comments on the remainder.

Far and away the most serious issues are in the Revolution or/and Coup section of the article, which presents Burlan's claims as if they were uncontroversial fact. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:50, Feb 3, 2005 (UTC)

I put an {{ifc}} tag and left a note about your suggestions for improvement on Image:Distribution of Celts in Europe.png. I don't really know enough about Celtic history to update the image, but please, feel free. – Quadell (talk) (sleuth)

List of Romanian words with unknown origin

hi there Bogdan, is there such a "list of romanian words with unknown origin" ? should we make such an article ?

That would be a rather long list. It would be better to make it in the Wiktionary. Anyway, I'll try to make a program which will create the list, according to DEX (from the database at http://dexonline.ro Bogdan | Talk 10:24, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

a new "dacian connection" just poped-up in my head, i'm seeing a connection between romanian "baiat" and english "boy" :0) -- Criztu 23:44, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I heard about this idea before. :-) The English word "boy" has an obscure etymology and since a Dacian legion of the Roman Army was stationed in Britain... there was this connection, but anyway, there's absolutely no proof for this. Bogdan | Talk 10:24, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Dacia (disambiguation)

Could you have a look at User:CristianTota's recent edit to Dacia (disambiguation). I'm hesitant to just revert, but it seems "cranky" to me, especially the precision of "14%". I'm not sure what he is on about, I'm figuring you are more likely to have a clue. -- Jmabel | Talk 19:47, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)

It appears to be just a fan of Săvescu's cranky theories. :-) Bogdan | Talk 22:38, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

For the help with Miyagawa Isshô Haiduc 12:54, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Transylvania region

ok, there are Ardeal, Banat, Crisana and Maramures regions, and there is a "historic Principality of Transylvania", so i think it is wrong(or more exactly Irredentist Propaganda) to have an article saying "Bihor is a county in Transylvania region"... am I right ? -- Criztu 20:38, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The way I understand it Transylvania = Ardeal + Banat + Crisana + Maramures. Pretty much the same way in which Wallachia = Oltenia + Muntenia. Regarding your observation, correct is "Bihor is a country in Romania". Then it can be added that it is part of a historic region. MihaiC 08:07, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for sorting the links out on my user page!! (Yes - I know I'm hopeless!!!) Selphie 13:37, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC) *talk*

when someone sense cannot sense essence.

Wikipedia should be based on NPOV. Do you need a research paper to see what is obviously similar?

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rohonczi_Codex&oldid=10649732

It's all about sensitivity, when someone sense cannot sense essence.

Intellact 20:34, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hi. I want to use the file Image:IE countries.png on my website under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 Licence. I need to contact the copyright owners of these files. Copyright owners are usually the creators of a work (and/or their employers). Please contact me using my talk page. Thank you very much, NSK 17:32, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

OK, I agree to put it in CC by-sa as well. Bogdan | Talk 19:20, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Adminship?

Hi, are you interested in being an Administrator? There's no particular obligation to do anything, but it would give you a few extra tools that may come in handy dealing with vandalism and such things. You seem trustworthy and polite, so I would be happy to nominate you if you're willing. Please let me know if you're interested. --Michael Snow 17:58, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hello Bogdan. If you would like to add your vote to Albanau being blocked and even banned, please consider it. He tried to delete your Origin of Albanians article a few hours ago. Decius 10:27, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

  • Salut Bogdan! User:Tobias Conradi a mutat o serie de titluri privind judetele din România de la formele "Foo (county)" la formele "Foo County"; vezi si Talk:Alba (county).
  • Nu stiu ce parere ai tu. Poate ar fii bine ca articolele sa fie sub aceasi forma. Oricum mai e mult de facut vezi Talk:Geography of Romania. Te rog sa raspunzi acolo. Multumesc anticipat. Gangleri | Th | T 15:50, 2005 Mar 30 (UTC)
Mersi Bogdan pentru raspunsul tau la Talk:Geography of Romania. De cateva zile prelucrez si lincuiesc articolele judetelor de la en: si eo:. Am gasit atât nl: cât si pl: pe care le adaug acum la de:.
Am vrut sa te contactez pe tine si pe Ronline si privitor la imaginile pe care le-ai facut si care sunt acum si la commons:Category:Maps of Romania. Pe commons nu mai apar ca autor cea ce as vrea sa reluam.
Am contactat o serie de utilizatori priviind commons:Category:Maps of Romania, modificarile minore privind denumirile si formatul Template:NowCommons.
Te rog sa semnezi imaginile sau sa lasi un scurt comentariu. Multumesc anticipat. Salutari din München Gangleri | Th | T 17:58, 2005 Mar 31 (UTC)
  • Deoarece am remarcat cât de greu pot fii gasite imaginile la commons: am întrodus

This image was created by ro:Utilizator:Bogdanen:User:Bogdangiusca.
Search: România Romania | Mehedinţi Mehedinti

Bogdan am adaugat un link interesant cu harti. sunt publicate in 1905 si cred ca au copirughtul expirat: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/se_europe_1700.jpg http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/se_europe.html CristianChirita 10:06, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Ancient Greek words borrowed by Dacians

Hi Bogdan, in a recent addition to Origin of Romanians you wrote that some ancient Greek borrowings are considered to be words that Dacians borrowed from Greeks, something that I agree with and an idea that I use as well. I'm just wondering what linguists affirm that, so I can read up on their works. Some ancient Greek words are also considered to have entered via Classical/Late Latin (as you probably know). Decius 05:33, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Sorin Olteanu wrote something about ancient borrowings from Greek.
Anyway, there are some phonetic corespondences, such as Greek "s" -> Romanian "ts", which could be a paralel Albanian "s" <-> Romanian "ts".
sigalos / ţigaie (DEX: et. nec.)
selinon / ţelină (DEX: ngr.)
syrinx / ţur (+suf. ţurloi, ţurcă, ţurţur, etc) (DEX: et. nec.)
Of them, ţigaie and ţurloi/ţurcă are related to the life of a shepherd.

Bogdan | Talk 08:07, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

What Sorin Olteanu is arguing in most cases is that the correspondances are cognates, and are evidence for the theory that Daco-Thracian was akin to Greco-Macedonian. In other cases he states that words such as syrinx were borrowed by ancient Greeks from Thracian shepherds. Decius 08:23, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

It's hard to know exactly what was the direction of the word interchanges. Anyway, a linguistic contact existed. Bogdan | Talk 08:29, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I've just reread Olteanu's essay again to double-check, and unless I'm mistaken, he doesn't suggest that any one of the words he is discussing was borrowed from Greek, so Sorin Olteanu cannot be used as reference, because he's saying the words are either 1) cognates, which show Daco-Thracic & Greek linguistic relation; 2) or he considers them as words that ancient Greeks borrowed from Thracians (for example, according to him syrinx cannot be native to Greek). At the top of his essay, he says that there are three already accepted layers of Romanian-Greek lexical relations: and these three consist of Romanian borrowings from Greek (indirectly or directly); he's saying that a fourth older layer of lexical relations (not borrowings) must exist, and from the examples that he then gives, he doesn't say that any of those words originate from Greek, so the fourth old layer is not just another layer of borrowings like the newer three. Decius 10:50, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I'm wondering about your source because I don't know of any such source (though it may well exist), and because I'd like to read such a reference myself. Decius 11:08, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Map

Bogdan, Seems that your ethnic map of Transylvania is deleted. Can you upload this map again? I found this map interesting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ethnic_map_transylvania.png User:PANONIAN

Bucharest

Is it really "Adriean Videanu", not "Adrian"? -- Jmabel | Talk 21:39, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)

I checked. I is indeed "Adriean Videanu". And you were right to ask - it isn't such a common name in Romania. MihaiC 06:17, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Getting down to business

Greetings Bogdan, I made some much needed revisions to the Thracian language page. It was time to represent the Thracian-Albanian theory more, to get into details about the Balto-Slavic models, and to make public some of Sorin Paliga's work. Hope you can help the article to improve also. It is time to apply precision and detail and not let certain schools sway this Wikipedia article, when in fact there is plenty of data in favor of other views. Decius 12:05, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Basically, I thought maybe you could insert some of Rosseti's (and others, etc.)Albanian-Thracian connections into the article, since I don't have his work. That Rosseti file you gave me unfortunately didn't download. Decius 12:26, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Of course, I still personally reject the view that Daco-Thracian was Albanic (or Albanic was Daco-Thracic), but nevertheless some affinity existed (as I always suggested anyway), and relevant Albanian-Thracian info should be added. Decius 12:49, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)