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This week's collab

Behold: Nevermind. Right now I've completely restructured the article, added a "Background" section, and filled out the "Recording" section. I've got a few more things to add to "Recording" so that'll be my focus for the time being. I think "Background" could be better, but I just wanted to get the main points written down. Obviously we need more info on what happened after the album was released. I'm not sure if you have any sources I don't (I own Come As You Are, the Classic Albums DVD, and a bunch of Guitar World issues that talk about the band) so let me know if there anything cool you have to add. One last thing: any suggestions for additional soundclips? WesleyDodds 06:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This occured to me: do you have With the Lights Out? Because if you do we can use one of the Smart Sessions demos. WesleyDodds 20:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Doolittle (album)

The article Doolittle (album) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. It hasn't failed because it's basically a good article, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Doolittle (album) for things needed to be addressed. M3tal H3ad 12:30, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just remember, when using American grammar in Doolittle, punctuation always goes inside of quotes. I can undertstand it can be a bit of a habit to break (oddly enough, I'm American yet if I'm not writting anything that's going to be copyedited I like to leave my punctuation on the outside of quotes for purely aesthetic reasons). Just be careful! WesleyDodds 21:55, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Banning spoiler warnings on the Final Fantasy Wikiproject

Hello, I've noticed that you're interested in the video game articles. You might be interested in adding your opinion to the discussion currently taking place on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Final Fantasy#Banning spoiler warnings completely. Kariteh 22:10, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pixies love

In a 20th anniversary interview for Spin, an interviewer asks Robert Smith of The Cure "What music has most excited you during the past 20 years?" to which Robert Smith responded "Dinosaur Jr. and Pixies." (Spitz, Marc. "Robert Smith." Spin. November 2005) If you want to include that bit in the "Legacy" section go ahead; I couldn't find an opportune area to place it. WesleyDodds 08:55, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

While searching for "Bam Thwok" reviews on Google, I found this article: [1]. I find it amusing because I was at the actual Pixies concert that they reference in the first two paragraphs. I actually thought they messed up intentionally as an excuse to throw out some witty stage banter. Everyone in the audience was yelling at them to keep on playing. WesleyDodds 00:23, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Doolittle FA

Congrats! WesleyDodds 02:38, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You also might want to take a look at the Adore FAC and provide some feedback. WesleyDodds 02:46, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

SLTS

Thanks, but after the FAC I did for The Smashing Pumpkins I want to fix up any objections that might exist before then. I'll make things (hopefully) smoother for all parties involved. By the way, you mentioned that magazine issue you had about Nirvana. Is there anything you think is interesting or informative you can add to the article from it? WesleyDodds

I was looking at "Teen Spirit" on AcclaimedMusic.net right now. What do you think about adding one of those charts like you've added at Surfer Rosa? I think it might be useful, but given the number of lists, it might be unwieldy. Possibly more important is that according to the site's ranking system "Smells like Teen Spirit" is the fourth-most acclaimed song ever. Now that's insane. WesleyDodds 12:40, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Would you be able to add a screencap of the "Teen Spirit" music video to the "Music video" section? Preferrably a scene worth commenting on, like the crowd dismantling the set and the band trashing their gear. I asked another user to grab an image, but I'm not sure he'll be able to do it. Aside from that, I'm waiting for a clarification on a music sample question (whether or not we can include clips of both the studio version and the Wishkah version of "Teen Spirit") and clarification on a source (I checked out the appropriate book and the text doesn't mention what is cited, but the original editor did cite from a later edition of the book). Once that's taken care of, I'm taking the page to FAC. WesleyDodds 08:51, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bam Thwok

Shucks, thanks, though I still haven't learned to spell. Your cranking out great articles lately, its heart warming to see so many Pixies FAs! Just two things on the Bam Thwok article: the sentence "Bam Thwok" was recorded in a Dreamworks-funded demo session, funded by" is incomplete; and the Horhaus, listentome.net, and Hannah Harper refs are not WP:RS - the first two are blogs, the last is a user contributed review. Hopefully, they're easily replaced. Other than that the article is in rude health. Ceoil 18:51, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I think you tackled the problem with the sources very nicely; its odd that there are not more reviews available. Also your probably right that the solo careers stuff is off topic. Ceoil 18:35, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've searched around for sources, and found nothing. One thing, is there any coverage of the recording on LoudQUIETLoud? Ceoil 18:47, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That became FA real quick. Congrats! WesleyDodds 07:25, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What are you planning to work on after the Pixies articles? WesleyDodds 07:36, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Kurt Cobain has been sitting at GA forever (and quite frankly the article needs some reworking), and I put Nevermind more or less on hold right now because I figured I might as well make SLTS FA first. Those are what I think are the main Nirvana pages to consider working on. There's always In Utero, and the other band members of course. Personally I've found I really don't care to work on band member pages. After finishing up The Smashing Pumpkins I had plenty of sources with which to add to Billy Corgan. I started working on it, but quickly got bored and gave up. Anyways, good luck on all that! WesleyDodds 07:45, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Music sources

You might want to post the magazine issue details on both the Alternative Wikiproject and main Music Wikiproject source list pages; I purposefully listed only the articles in each magazine issue relevant to alternative rock, thus excluding hip-hop, pop, and metal-related features, among other genres. I can fill out the articles information for the issues I own for the main Music Wikiproject later, but I think the more specific listings would still be helpful on the Alternative WikiProject source list, especially since people there might be looking for smaller pieces on particular bands within the project's scope. WesleyDodds 12:12, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and I can add details from the Spin "100 greatest albums" feature on Surfer Rosa and Doolittle if you think you can find a place for them. One bit I thought might be worthwhile but I had trouble placing in the Doolittle article was:
"We did three weeks of recording, nearly a song a day," recalls producer Gil Norton. "Nearly everything went down live. I knew when I finished it that it was a bit of a rock 'n' roll classic." (Ref: Ganz, Caryn. "Pixies - Doolittle". Spin. July 2005.)
The list also includes your standard items of praise that can fill up an article. WesleyDodds 12:26, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't seen anything that mentions the "Gigantic" deal. I'll add some more stuff from the Spin top 100 list soon. There's a quote in the Surfer Rosa entry from Frank Black that might be useful where he says "I had gotten kind of obsessed with songs that don't ever change their chord progressions, like 'Roadrunner' by the Modern Lovers [. . .] When you learn things can be simple, it's kind of an epiphany." WesleyDodds 12:34, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A thought occured to me: do you own this DVD? I didn't see it cited in the Pixies articles. Aside from containing all the videos, it also contains a documentary on the band. Very useful, as among other things you see Frank Black discussing the band's history while driving around as well as hear praise directly from people like David Bowie, Radiohead, PJ Harvey, and others. WesleyDodds 00:43, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: WikiProject Alternative music and sources

Hey there. Got your message and I looked at the page. It seems to me though that you have nothing but print sources listed there. I know a good source that isn't print, but I don't know how to add it, you may have heard of it. It's a radio series carried on CFNY-FM called The Ongoing History of New Music, hosted by Alan Cross. It's been running since 1993, and there's an online library of nearly 200 of the episodes. Hope you can add this to your list of sources, because I've listened to quite a few episodes, and there are many interesting facts and detailed content. Cheers. -- Reaper X 20:42, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for your invitation. As I do not currently live in an English-speaking country, most of my books and magazines are not in English. Anw, I added a "Q" issue, soon I'll add a "Rolling Stone", both aged more than 15 years. :) --Doktor Who 02:09, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Make Me Laugh

The quote, "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." by Aldous Huxley posted on your front page has me laughing. If this quote is so important to make it #1 on your main page, why don't you follow it? It would be much easier to argue facts, then to try to convince people your opinions - void of those facts - are more correct...let the facts that exist speak for themselves. DaVoice 18:05, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]