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Former good articleGreat power was one of the Social sciences and society good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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October 15, 2006Peer reviewReviewed
August 1, 2008Peer reviewReviewed
August 19, 2008Good article nomineeListed
January 2, 2009Good article reassessmentDelisted
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Current status: Delisted good article


Who Coined the Term Great Power?

I came to the Great Power page looking for the answer to this question. According to the World Wars section of this article, "It was first coined in 1944 by William T. R. Fox." But when I checked that footnote, I was only linked to a Wikipedia biography on Fox, which credited him for coining the term SUPERPOWER. Obviously the two terms are different, and I had assumed that the term "great power" wass much older (like, Westphalia of the COncert of Europe kind of era). Please confirm and fix the error.

Merge proposal

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The result of this discussion was: not merged. Theknowhowman (talk) 02:16, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I propose merging Superpower and Potential superpower into Great power. The content in the first two articles largely duplicate and overlap with the content in Great power. To what extent there is a semantic difference between "superpower" and "great power", it can be described in Great power or Hegemony. A merge would not cause any article-size or weighting problems in Great power. Thenightaway (talk) 16:55, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose - A superpower is not a great power. Per existing definitions, the classifications differ significantly. Not to mention, merging the three articles together will be a logistical nightmare and having all these similar sounding (but different in meaning and scope) terms in one article may confuse readers even more. Archives908 (talk) 17:24, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • The definitions of great power and superpower are nearly verbatim in both articles, so I don't buy that the concepts are meaningfully distinct. Scholars overwhelmingly use the term "great power" and more commonly refer to "hegemons" (rather than superpower) to denote when one power is vastly dominant, so it makes sense to merge all content into Great power and Hegemony. As for the size problem, it's actually very easy to resolve. Most of the content in Superpower and Potential superpower is of exceedingly low quality, as it's poorly sourced (pop science books, non-peer reviewed papers and op-eds by pundits) and contains a lot of WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. A lot of the content can be deleted and it would be of no loss to readers. In fact, it would probably be good for readers. It's probably sufficient to merge two or three paragraphs into Great power and Hegemony, and that's it. Thenightaway (talk) 19:45, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose -A superpower is not a great power. If the definitions are to close, that is a failure of the Wikipedia articles. Great powers and superpowers are completely different terms, used at different parts of history. Powers in terms of international have multiple categories. The model that these terms describing incldues superpowers, great powers, middle powers, and smaller/lesser powers. These are extremely well documented in literature outside Wikipedia. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 00:42, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]


Oppose content may overlap but they are both different topics Karnataka talk 21:20, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Great power is a 19th century term, while superpower is a Cold war era term. Wikisaurus (talk) 19:30, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Remove middle power accusations

The UK, China, Russia, and France were accused of being middle powers I between the 1990s and late 2000s. These stats are no longer accurate, but apparently this requires me to go ask here. So opinions? 14.201.77.56 (talk) 13:13, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]