User talk:Miguel~enwiki
Hello there, welcome to the 'pedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you need any questions answered about the project then check out Wikipedia:Help or drop me a line. Cheers! --maveric149
Hi Miguel, thanks a lot for your edits in the Math area! I hope you enjoy it as much as the rest of us.
In one of your subject lines, you mentioned that we should merge topological group and Lie group. I disagree: the concept of topological group is more general (they don't have to be manifolds, so for instance the Lp spaces are topological groups but not Lie groups), and the techniques in the two fields are very different (the whole machinery of Lie algebras is not available for topological groups). Also, between topological groups the natural morphisms are continuous group homomorphisms, while between Lie groups the natural morphisms are analytical group homomorphisms. AxelBoldt
Point taken. However, the example of Lp spaces is not really that good, because (with the operation of addition) it is not only an abelian group, but a vector space! In fact, you can use exploit the analogy with finite-dimensional spaces to develop a theory of "manifolds modelled on banach spaces".
A nonabelian infinite-dimensional topological group might be the group of diffeomorphisms of a manifold, but that does have a Lie algebra: the Lie algebra of complete vector fields. This is, in fact, one of the motivations for a theory of manifolds modelled on topological vector spaces.
This suggests to me that the reason Lp spaces don't appear to have lie algebras is that they are abelian, and therefore, the lie algebra is trivial. -- Miguel
By the way, it's cool how you guys pay attention to who comes in and what they do. -- Miguel
Yer a bum, Miguel!!! -- Toby
(And Axel: He admitted to me today that you were right.)
Hello. I have now added a clarification and illustration of the statement you considered dubious in the Archimedes article.
You did a very good job of listing his works. Michael Hardy 19:50 8 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Hey Miguel! Thanks for pointing out the spider/FooBar inconsistency on my User page, well spotted! ;-) Nice job on self-organization, the page is looking pretty respectable. Perhaps we could suggest it go on the front page in the "New articles", as some of them have been there for a few days. -- Lexor 21:34, 16 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Salut Miguel. I appreciate your work on Jean-Marie Le Pen. I have no idea how to get people to agree that the Le Pen article is NPOV. In a certain sense it's a test for Wikipedia NPOV policy. The problem with le Pen is that there many people have some irrational sympathy for him. Obviously Anthere is not of suporters but she feels that the article fail NPOV. I've tried to write some facts with references and avoid as much as possible judgement. But with Le Pen facts will give a rather negative feeling. Strangeless it seems nobody has found positive facts to balance the article. Except the fact that le Pen studied at the university and voluntered for Algeria and things like that... When you read what le Pen write or say.... well it stinks (to say the less), and everything that le Pen say is said with extreme care because there are laws in France that that prevent the expression of Nazi, racist or anti-Semitic ideology. Very few people will say "I agree with le Pen" but they believe there's something positive because le Pen is "against current establishment". That's the key of the problem with fascism : this is mainly irrationnal. I have searched for fact or quote to balance the article I can't find anything. I remember when le Pen was the guest in "Le Tribunal des Flagrants Délires" (a radio show on France Inter where personnalities were judged by humorists) while all other guest showed some sense of humor (even Arlette Laguiller made some good jokes). I can't remenber any good joke from le Pen. My conclusion is we don't have to try to convice anyone. We should go on feeding the article with documented facts and let's see what happen.
Ericd 00:41, 18 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Miquel, I agree with you that there may be a difference between declaration of war and state of war and even war. I made the redirect from state of war to declaration of war as the declaration of war starts the state of war in a country, since war (except for civil war) always involves at least two countries I see no reason not to put the information about declaration and state in one article. If you think otherwise go ahead and start a state of war article. I also agree with you about the stuff under declaration of war being POV, I am not sure who wrote it, but perhaps we should move it to the talk page until someone can make it more NPOV. I found this article to be incredibly Americano-centric and I have tried to add some international content. You will note that the whole idea of war has pretty much been sidelined as an international law concept since the end of WWII. Regarding your statements about the terminology in state of emergency I started the article from a link about the blackout, most countries do have state of emergency laws, but the terminology everywhere is slightly different. Most people use the term state of emergency so I did not do a redirect when I started the page. If you think subpages can be started, please do so, even if they are short stubs, someone will eventually come and add some more content. Be sure to list them on the stub page and that way folks like me who are looking on articles to work on that already exist will not create duplicate articles. Alex756 17:09, 18 Aug 2003 (UTC)
The widely varying terminology is a problem, that's why we need something who actually knows about the scholarship of this topic and is a native English speaker to write and name the articles. Notes about the varying terminology and legislation in languages and countries can be added to the articles as appropriate. -- Miguel
- There is not really an "legal" distinction, I can say that because I am an American lawyer and trained in Canada (having studied both English and French law there). If you know about the topic in Spanish, I suggest you write articles in the Spanish Wikipedia, it would be appropriate there. States of Emergency occur often in North America when we have natural disasters, in Canada a state of emergency was declared by Pierre Elliot Trudeau that did suspend civil rights in the 1970s, that is why I made mention of it, but it is an exception in the North American context; correct me if I am wrong but I have no citations to your terminology so unless someone else used it in English I am assuming you just translated literally from Spanish. Alex756
- I did translate literally. However, the expression state of siege does exist in English. What does it mean? I guess my question becomes a little more focused, then: what exactly is the legal status on state of emergency in Canada and the US according to the constitution, and what are the limitations that it can impose? What do other countries have in their legal system?
- Regarding putting the content on the Spanish wikipedia, if the Spanish and other constitutions do distinguish a range of "states of emergency", that can be discussed on the English wikipedia as part of comparative constitutional law. I know Wikipedia users are majoritarily North-American, but that is bound to change sooner or later.
- By the way, I just discovered that Autonomous Communities of Spain contains false statements about what teh constitution says. Myths get propagated and people (including me) don't bother to check the sources... -- Miguel
- There is lots of false or mistated information on Wikipedia, I tend to try and find such material in area of laws that I am familiar with, I also spend a lot of time maintaining a list of legal topics page; regarding the constitution of Spain, perhaps you can start a stub. There is already a link on the Constitution page — at the bottom list — just click on that and start editing. The only other Spanish speaking country that seems to have a fleshed out constitution page is Chile. If you start something I'll link it back to the legal topics lists, put it on the stub list, and reference it on the general Spain page &madash; or do it yourself — maybe then someone who really knows a lot about Spanish constitutional law will come along, find the link by accident, and work on it (part of our job here is encouraging other people to contribute, no?). Alex756 01:28, 19 Aug 2003 (UTC)