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Lateralus (song) Fibonacci Sequence source

check this interview

"Maynard now mentions the Spiral Sequence of Life, the Golden Rectangle, the Fibonacci Sequence and the Phi Ratio. For further information on these aspects of Tool's songs and ideas, there are several websites to consider for reference:
http://library.thinkquest.org/27890/theSeries1.html
http://library.thinkquest.org/27890/mainIndex.html
http://toolshed.down.net/articles/text/spinmag.jun.2001.html
http://library.thinkquest.org/27890/applications6.html
The mathmetician credited for discovering the sequence is Leonardo Fibonacci in 1202 (a.d.). Each number in the sequence is generated by adding the previous two, which produces a string of numbers like this: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233, 377, 610, 987. To arrive at each number of the series, you simply add the two numbers that came before it. And so each number of the series is the sum of the two numbers preceding it. In nature, you see many patterns which displays numbers from this sequence e.g. pineapples, flowers, conk shells, pine cones (hmmm...), etc. What I get from the sequence is the relation of a ratio (Phi) which has fixed spatial constraints on biological organisms. And so you see the pattern repeat itself again and again because of these spatial constraints.
If you look at the syllable of the opening lyrics in 'Lateralus', you can see evidence of the Fibonacci sequence ascending and descending:
1 (Black)
1 (then)
2 (white are)
3 (all I see)
5 (in my in-fan-cy.)
8 (red and yel-low then came to be),
5 (reach-ing out to me.)
3 (lets me see.) "

I don't know if it will work as a source for the specific material on Lateralus (song) that was removed but it could be used elsewhere. There is also a lot of other good material in that interview that could be used for citing material. I've been meaning to getting around to using that as a source on a lot of material but just haven't. Either way, it is a good read. hombre de haha 22:38, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot! Coincidentally I was just in the middle of reading that interview when you sent it to me ;) I found it on the Fibonacci sequence in popular culture article. I'm sure I will need more than this to complete it. I know whoever ripped that info out of the article didn't look for sources like they claimed. Again I appreciate it. Wikidan829 22:51, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That is a coincidence! There are a lot of wild claims and speculation in the Tool album and song articles but I don't think this is one of them. Shouldn't be too hard to verify, I'm about to take off but I'll check it later tonight or tomorrow to see if I can help any. Take care, hombre de haha 23:02, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: 209.168.216.90

This person has repeatedly vandalized the History of Earth article, with plenty of warnings. Can we take appropriate steps to have them blocked? We need to give them a final warning next time. Thanks Wikidan829 15:37, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If they continue to make unconstructive edits, yes – Gurch 15:39, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If you look at the history of that article, it's clear that they have exhausted their chances. I'm going off the top of my head, but I think it was at least 6 reverts. Wikidan829 21:45, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
They haven't edited since your last message; nothing should be done. Please remember that blocks are preventative, not punitive. Thanks – Gurch 21:47, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

El Chuco

Thanks for fixing up El Paso. It looked to me like El Chuco was vandalism, since I grew up there and had never heard it. You said "also referenced in Pachuco#Origin.. did some google and it seems to be fairly common throughout." Actually, it's un-referenced there, so I started looking for reliable sources. I always look first in GBS, since you can specify dates and get reliable sources much more easily than on the web. So I found a few books calling El Paso El Chuco, dating from the early 1980s, explaining why I never heard it (I lived there only until 1970, and the rest of my family hasn't kept me up on the Pachuco slang). However, I also find the El Paso is known as Pachuco, from at least the 1930s. So maybe that would be a better nickname to list. Or maybe El Chuco is more "current". Are you familiar with the place? Dicklyon 05:17, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the citation

Sorry about removing that info so hastily I should have slapped a fact tag on it. Thanks for finding that ref. daveh4h 22:22, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

discussion

I did look for a Wikiproject but couldn't find one. The articles have been tagged for months and the ones I've identified, apart from maybe Hush, really cannot be improved to Wikipedia standards from reliable sources. It's not an issue of can if worked hard enough upon, but just can't - there are many subjects that fall into that category. Orderinchaos 13:40, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks mate :) Orderinchaos 03:18, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

question

Why do you work tirelessly for no compensation? I'm up 1700 dollars creating pages for businesses and ad revenue in the last three months doing the exact same thing as on wikipedia (plus embedded videos, rss, and html). Granted centiare is a infant and will take time to grow and I could have probably have made the same money doing menial minimum wage but why. I have no clue why anyone would volunteer their time and not even get credit let alone money realizing centiare is out there. Then again I'm a crazy libertarian. Andman8 16:40, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I realize its just a hobby and I'm just being friendly. Hey I found this great new site check it out. Guess I'm off to make more money :) Andman8 18:52, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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