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(quote) The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱, Suzumiya Haruhi no Yūutsu?)is the name of a 2006 anime based on a series of novels by the same name.

Hmmm... this wording unfortunately ascribes "the same name" to the whole series of novels, rather than the first novel only. How about:

The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱, Suzumiya Haruhi no Yūutsu) is the name of a 2006 anime based on a series of novels the first of which bears the same name.

--Iain David Stewart 23:34, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with this. I'm about to perform some clean up to the test article, and I'll include this change. One major change is the exclusion of the Themes section which seems to be nothing more than fan speculation.--十八 05:31, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

GA?

I was just looking through this page, and it seems like it may pass GA. It's well written, verifiable, neutral, and covers a large range of the material, appropriate for it. Interested in nominating it?Sbloemeke 11:08, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, why not?--十八 11:12, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No merger:

We already established this at WP:HARUHI. The light novel and anime should not be in the same article, as the light novel only deals with episodes 2, 3, 5, 10, 13, and 14. The other 8 episodes are not from that light novel. Thus why we need two articles. I'm going to remove the merger suggestion.Sbloemeke 11:12, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I also agree on this point and the fact that when the second season roles around, we're going to need a separate page for the anime anyway.--十八 11:15, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Evaluation for GA

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The pictures are fine. You might want to have to have a spoilers tag in the plot section. However the writing seems a little POV in the fan section: "The series has been met with immense popularity and a dedicated fanbase, and has become a cult television series." "The concept of Haruhiism is humorously portrayed by fans to be somewhat of a pseudoreligion, with Haruhi as "God."" In the episodes section, there's problems with the prose: "During the previews for the next episode, the viewers are always given two different numbers for the following episode (except for episode number twelve), one number from Haruhi, who numbers the episodes according to where they actually fit chronologically in the plot, and one number from Kyon, who lists the episode numbers in the order in which they aired." In the first half of the article, there are several paragraphs without citations. A bit needs to be done unfortunately :(.◙◙◙ I M Kmarinas86 U O 2¢ ◙◙◙ 01:02, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. The prose has been cleaned up and references added. Anything else? Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 06:50, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Better. At this point, I think it has a better chance of making it.◙◙◙ I M Kmarinas86 U O 2¢ ◙◙◙ 12:00, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Are you saying we should try a renom, or that it is just better?Sbloemeke 22:10, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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This article fine, though it might be toned down a bit. "The series has been met with a great deal of popularity and a dedicated fanbase..." The phrase "dedicated fanbase" is good, but a "great deal of popularity" is unclear wording. What is a deal? LOL. This article still makes it though. Passed.◙◙◙ I M Kmarinas86 U O 2¢ ◙◙◙ 00:23, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Product Placement

Apparantly, the 10th episode of Lucky Star, an anime which is also produced by Kyoto Animation, contained explicit product placement for the Haruhi Vol 5 DVD, it might be worth a mention. Link to source: [1] - Vadigor 20:58, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think so. If anything, that is blatent trivia since the reference was 1) very brief, and 2) Lucky Star has a ton of references to other anime, which could be seen as "product placement" too.--十八 00:14, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ASOS Brigade

So, I noticed that this section is becoming larger and larger. Should it be its own article, perhaps, with a link from here?Sbloemeke 13:07, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that asosbrigade.com would qualify for it's own article per WP:WEB if that is what you mean to do. The basis of that entire section is the website, so I think for now we should just keep it here, or trim it down some of some information that is more or less cruft, or otherwise unimportant to the subject matter.--十八 22:25, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Does it really need much more of a mention other than it exists?
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