Talk:Occupied territory
Above should go in Disputed area article.
- It's fine here. The Turkish army does occupy northern Cyprus, but at least recognizes that it is not a part of Turkey.
Stop me if I'm way off base on this. Perhaps I'm confused about the distinction (which may exist only in my head) between a frankly avowed occupation and a one-sided advocacy claim.
- Germany occupied France during WWII and everyone called it "occupied France".
- America occuiped Japan for 5 years after WWII and had a military government backed by "occupation forces".
When Germany lost the war, they had to give back France. America also eventually left Japan (after making sure they wouldn't attack other countries any more).
Hmm... getting complex. Should we give up, or what? --Ed Poor
- Quitting would be the same as abandoning NPOV!
- If one keeps to some sort of fundamental understanding of what "Occupied" means the subject becomes an easy one. To me occupation is the de facto control, usually by military force of territory that does not belong to the occupier. It can be by direct miltary action, as a result of a surrender, or as part of an international protectorate arrangement. The de jure situation, or legal justification (if any) for the occupation is irrelevant to the fact of the occupation. Eclecticology 12:35 Aug 1, 2002 (PDT)
An example of a nation which does not occupy the land of previous inhabitants is Samoa. I changed it to "most nations". -- zero 07:44, 10 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Not sure this is true....
- Israel officially disputes this, saying that the territories were not legally held by any other party before coming under Israeli control in 1967.
I'm not sure that Israel does officially dispute that the West Bank is territories under miliitary occupation. Israel hasn't formally annexed the West Bank or Gaza, and the status of the territories before 1967 is irrelevant to the definition of occupied territory.
Note: I'm *not* arguing about what the state of the territories is, I am arguing about what Israel says it is.